Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Apr 13, 2013, at 18:37, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: For seriously lightweight window managers, I've been using vtwm for years, still published by the Penguin Liberation Front and listed at

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: For seriously lightweight window managers, I've been using vtwm for years, still published by the Penguin Liberation Front and listed at http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/13029794/dir/mandriva_2010/com/vtwm-5.4.7-1plf.i586.rpm.html. Be warned that PLF

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: I don't contest this, but it is still less complex than expecting all the unix software that has been written in the last decades to stop using /tmp for big files because it is suddenly limited by memory limits. I don't mind systemd exploring new concepts (and in fact

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-11 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 10 avril 2013 22:52, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:55:59PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Disable /tmp on tmpfs? I have suggested this should be done automatically in RAM-limited situations (primarily for VMs):

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 01:51:16PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mer 10 avril 2013 22:52, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:55:59PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Disable /tmp on tmpfs? I have suggested this should be done automatically in RAM-limited situations

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
memory size is recommended for F19? Kind regards Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow): Kernel-3.8.6-203.fc18.x86_64 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-11 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 11 avril 2013 14:07, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 01:51:16PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mer 10 avril 2013 22:52, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:55:59PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Disable /tmp on tmpfs? I have suggested

Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread Joachim Backes
Dear developers, I was running F18 on an old notebook with 512 MB memory (not extendable). Now, I upgraded this box to F19 with yum. The upgrade was done, but now, the box is no more operable because it is continuously swapping. Question: which minimal memory size is recommended for F19? Kind

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
it is continuously swapping. Question: which minimal memory size is recommended for F19? We don't know yet, as f19 hasn't been released. ;) There's still debugging options enabled on the kernel, but I wouldn't think that would cause 'continuously swapping'. Can you use top/ps/etc to identify

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread John Reiser
I was running F18 on an old notebook ... Question: which minimal memory size is recommended for F19? For graphical desktop, the installer currently warns if less than 768MB. Many users probably will be uncomfortable with less than 1GB. Things you can try: Append cgroup_disable=memory

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/10/2013 06:23 PM, John Reiser wrote: I was running F18 on an old notebook ... Question: which minimal memory size is recommended for F19? For graphical desktop, the installer currently warns if less than 768MB. Are these the installation memory requirements or the run-time

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread John Reiser
And obviously, you *must* have some swap space if you are trying to run with low RAM. Even as small as 100MB of swap space will help. -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:55:59PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Disable /tmp on tmpfs? I have suggested this should be done automatically in RAM-limited situations (primarily for VMs): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858265 Well, ideally it would never have been done in the first

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread Adam Williamson
, the box is no more operable because it is continuously swapping. Question: which minimal memory size is recommended for F19? We don't know yet, as f19 hasn't been released. ;) There's still debugging options enabled on the kernel, but I wouldn't think that would cause 'continuously swapping'. I