Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2022-03-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 12:37 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > So, uh, we sorta forgot about this. Kamil approved this draft, but > nobody else gave any feedback on it. This topic is still relevant and > we have a proposed VPN blocker today, so...any more feedback on this > draft? I think it's

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2022-02-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-08-28 at 16:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hi folks! > > > > So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have > > explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started > > to bite

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-31 Thread Kamil Paral
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:59 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hi folks! > > > > So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have > > explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started > > to bite

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-31 Thread Steven Bonneville
Pardon me for thread-breaking, I read in digest mode :) On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 16:56:26 -0700 wrote: > > What about mDNS? > > ehhh > > I am probably a bit biased on this front because I always found mDNS to > be a pile of garbage and gave up trying to use it a while back. :P But > if a

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-31 Thread Kamil Paral
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:57 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 10:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > > > > Basic networking > > > > > > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-30 Thread Tomáš Popela
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 4:34 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 7:52 PM Chris Murphy > wrote: > > > The IPP Everywhere specification requires clients to support DNS-SD > > (mDNS is part of that) or WS-Discovery. Printers are required to > > support both DNS-SD and WS-Discovery.

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 7:52 pm, Chris Murphy wrote: Between avahi and systemd-resolved, I'm not sure which one is more dependable for blocking on. Or whether their maintainers would be on board with such a criterion. At least for F33, Avahi is what we're using on desktops for this. Both

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 7:52 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > The IPP Everywhere specification requires clients to support DNS-SD > (mDNS is part of that) or WS-Discovery. Printers are required to > support both DNS-SD and WS-Discovery. Avahi and systemd-resolved > support DNS-SD, functionally equating

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-28 Thread Chris Murphy
[Sorry for the double post, somewhere along the way desktop@ and kde@ were dropped, so I'm re-adding them and that means double post for test@ and devel@.] Re: add working mDNS to the criterion The IPP Everywhere specification requires clients to support DNS-SD (mDNS is part of that) or

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:56 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 10:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > > > > Basic networking > > > > > > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! > > So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have > explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started > to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in > under

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 10:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > Basic networking > > > > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections > > using DHCP and static addressing. The default network

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 01:14 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:51 PM Michel Alexandre Salim > wrote: > > > Also, should we add WireGuard to this list for future-proofing? > > I had thought about explicitly suggesting > wireguard, but then thought that we should > focus

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > Basic networking > > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections > using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration > tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-25 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Tue, 2020-08-25 at 21:20 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 8:33 PM Michael Catanzaro < > mcatanz...@gnome.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:11 pm, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > Do NetworkManager and its current KDE and GNOME front ends > > > support it > > >

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 8:33 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:11 pm, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > Do NetworkManager and its current KDE and GNOME front ends support it > > currently? > > Rumor has it that KDE has this working! The rumor is true! WireGuard has been

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-25 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:51 PM Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Also, should we add WireGuard to this list for future-proofing? I had thought about explicitly suggesting wireguard, but then thought that we should focus on what is currently being used, and while *I* use wireguard, it is still

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-25 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:11 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: Do NetworkManager and its current KDE and GNOME front ends support it currently? Rumor has it that KDE has this working! But GNOME doesn't support it yet. Help welcome in these bugs:

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-25 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Tue, 2020-08-25 at 16:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2020-08-25 at 15:50 -0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > VPN connections > > > > > > > > > > > > Using the default network configuration tools for

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-08-25 at 15:50 -0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > VPN connections > > > > > > > > Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for > > > > release-blocking desktops, it must be

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-25 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > VPN connections > > > > Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for > > release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working > > connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2020-08-22 at 00:23 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:12 AM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections > > using DHCP and static addressing. > > For IPV6, SLAAC is more common than DHCP(v6) >

Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-21 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:12 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections > using DHCP and static addressing. For IPV6, SLAAC is more common than DHCP(v6) (especially) in the consumer space. I would like to see a SLAAC requirement be

Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-21 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult, notably