Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 20:31 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: But do not try to wake it up by pressing num lock twice fast. It should be a noop but you can hit a gnome race and hose the system That was fixed a couple of months ago. Please replace with up-to-date complaints. commit 15baf34186c6b5886b26e5a37698893be36f510b Author: Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net Date: Tue Nov 6 19:13:12 2012 +0100 keyboard: Prevent potential infinite loop XKB would notify us in the same way if the lockedMods changed because of a programmatic, or a physical/human change. This causes us changing the Num-Lock state generating another event on top of the one we just processed, and might cause infinite loops and 100% CPU usage. Instead, we now only apply the settings: - on startup - when remember-num-lock is changed to true https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679151 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Le Mer 23 janvier 2013 10:31, Bastien Nocera a écrit : On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 20:31 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: But do not try to wake it up by pressing num lock twice fast. It should be a noop but you can hit a gnome race and hose the system That was fixed a couple of months ago. Please replace with up-to-date complaints. Thanks for the reference, it had been broken so many months I trained myself to avoid the sequence. -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Le Dim 20 janvier 2013 06:46, David Tardon a écrit : Hi, On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a): On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. I just hit Enter or Return to achieve the same. Or Esc. Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :) Great. That makes third obsucre mechanism just to unlock screen (or, rather, just to show the password field). But do not try to wake it up by pressing num lock twice fast. It should be a noop but you can hit a gnome race and hose the system -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Am 19.01.2013 23:08, schrieb Peter Gordon: On 01/18/2013 04:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still perplexes me. What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off? It's for notifications and other things for which one should not need to unlock the system to handle -- for example, to notify of urgent system-level problems (such as low battery), or to pause or switch songs in your music player, or quickly check an instant message. oh yeah quickly check a personal instant message without unlock whoever have desigend this is naive and has no idea about privacy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
* Reindl Harald [19/01/2013 23:27] : oh yeah quickly check a personal instant message without unlock whoever have desigend this is naive and has no idea about privacy To be fair, this is exactly the reason why it is disabled by default and has to be enabled by the user. Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 02:25:51PM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: oh yeah quickly check a personal instant message without unlock whoever have desigend this is naive and has no idea about privacy To be fair, this is exactly the reason why it is disabled by default and has to be enabled by the user. So, how about have the screen not do that if there are no such options enabled? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ mat...@fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com wrote: Hey,guys... Will there have a MATE spin later? Thanks... -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng Yes. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 06:10:06PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Andy Lawrence writes: Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you! Agreed. This also seems to be a convenient place to add my own snarky comment, that doesn't really merit its own thread. I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. Somehow (and this would be the snarky part) I knew even before I started looking, that there seems to be no bloody way to turn it off, in case you don't feel fond of having to go through an extra step of unlocking a locked desktop. Swiping is a very hard action on a Lenovo trackpad. It needs two hands and very precise coordination. Doesn't give a good message to our less abled / less coordinated users. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. I just hit Enter or Return to achieve the same. -- Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow) - Linux 3.7.2-201.fc18.x86_64 loadavg: 0.15 0.22 0.30 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. I just hit Enter or Return to achieve the same. Or Esc. -- Tomasz TorczOnly gods can safely risk perfection, xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl it's a dangerous thing for a man. -- Alia -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 12:46:35PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. I just hit Enter or Return to achieve the same. Or Esc. It's good that these things work. But why do I need them at all? I already took some action to wake the system. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ mat...@fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a): On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. I just hit Enter or Return to achieve the same. Or Esc. Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :) BTW you can show notifications on the screen, so even without login you can be informed that you have new message, or what your payer is playing ATM, etc. Vít -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On 01/18/2013 04:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still perplexes me. What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off? It's for notifications and other things for which one should not need to unlock the system to handle -- for example, to notify of urgent system-level problems (such as low battery), or to pause or switch songs in your music player, or quickly check an instant message. While you can't disable it (as far as I know), you can still get past it by using your keyboard (press Esc or Enter) if you don't want to use the upward swipe. -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) pe...@thecodergeek.com Who am I? :: http://thecodergeek.com/about-me signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Hi, On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a): On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. I just hit Enter or Return to achieve the same. Or Esc. Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :) Great. That makes third obsucre mechanism just to unlock screen (or, rather, just to show the password field). BTW you can show notifications on the screen, so even without login you can be informed that you have new message, or what your payer is playing ATM, etc. And why should I need that? D. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:46 PM, David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a): On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. I just hit Enter or Return to achieve the same. Or Esc. Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :) Great. That makes third obsucre mechanism just to unlock screen (or, rather, just to show the password field). BTW you can show notifications on the screen, so even without login you can be informed that you have new message, or what your payer is playing ATM, etc. And why should I need that? D. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel So I checked my email today after a long hard day at FUDCon, and I see a thread with the subject To the Mate package maintainers and upon reading it I find that this thread has nothing to do with MATE Desktop any more. I am a sad panda. :( Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
To the Mate package maintainers
Mate package maintainers, testers and any developers on the dev list: Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you! Not to start a war, but I sincerely hope Mate makes it into RHEL 7 vs Gnome. I have WAY too many machines riding on it. -- projecthuh.com Never underestimate the carelessness of boredom... Most people prefer Windows because most people are idiots... -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Hi On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Andy Lawrence wrote: Not to start a war, but I sincerely hope Mate makes it into RHEL 7 vs Gnome. I have WAY too many machines riding on it. Unlikely that MATE will be part of EL. If you depend on it, I would suggest getting it into EPEL Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Andy Lawrence writes: Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you! Agreed. This also seems to be a convenient place to add my own snarky comment, that doesn't really merit its own thread. I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. Somehow (and this would be the snarky part) I knew even before I started looking, that there seems to be no bloody way to turn it off, in case you don't feel fond of having to go through an extra step of unlocking a locked desktop. pgpmLAYOAGhiJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Andy Lawrence writes: Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you! Agreed. This also seems to be a convenient place to add my own snarky comment, that doesn't really merit its own thread. I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display wakes up, that must be swiped away in order to unlock the desktop. Somehow (and this would be the snarky part) I knew even before I started looking, that there seems to be no bloody way to turn it off, in case you don't feel fond of having to go through an extra step of unlocking a locked desktop. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel You're welcome. It's not happening. Enjoy. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
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Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 05:13:16PM -0600, Dan Mashal wrote: You're welcome. It's not happening. So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still perplexes me. What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ mat...@fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Hey,guys... Will there have a MATE spin later? Thanks... -- *Yours sincerely,* *Christopher Meng* Got problems with Windows? - ReBoot Got problems with Linux? - Be Root Ambassador/Contributor of Fedora Project and many others. http://cicku.me -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
Matthew Miller writes: On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 05:13:16PM -0600, Dan Mashal wrote: You're welcome. It's not happening. So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still perplexes me. What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off? Because Gnome's usability experts know better than you, on the subject of UI design. pgpCYjGcIYlTE.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: To the Mate package maintainers
On 01/18/2013 06:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off? It's part of the nefarious master plan to turn all of our computers into giant cell phones/tablets. Don't believe that there are a lot of people who think this way? Check this out ... http://www.businessinsider.com/panasonic-unveils-20-inch-4k-tablet-at-ces-2013-1 -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com Sometimes there's nothing left to do but crash and burn...or die trying. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
