Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:20:15 +0100 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: We talked about, but never finished implementing a timeout on acl requests. The way this would work is that maintainer would have some time.. 3 weeks or something to reject a acl request.

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-16 Thread Mattia Verga
Yes, with skychart I made some confusion: after a discussion on a forum I thought I can use a request for updating a package as a review ticket, but I soon realize that this wasn't possible. So I became a maintainer in the correct way and after that I asked privileges in pkgdb to become a

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mattia Verga wrote: For the second point, I don't know if a new review should be really necessary only to verify the presence of obsoletes and provides: in my opinion if someone is a package maintainer he/she MUST already know how to rename a package and that this requires obsoletes and

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: We talked about, but never finished implementing a timeout on acl requests. The way this would work is that maintainer would have some time.. 3 weeks or something to reject a acl request. If they did not do so, pkgdb would automatically approve it at the end of the time.

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-15 Thread Mattia Verga
I'm just entered the world of Fedora packagers and I see a few points that can be optimized in my opinion. 1. I saw a package that need to be upgraded. I opened a bug in bugzilla, after some time whit no response from the maintainer I asked in pkgdb permissions for that package: I'm still

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:37:16 +0100, MV (Mattia) wrote: I'm just entered the world of Fedora packagers and I see a few points that can be optimized in my opinion. 1. I saw a package that need to be upgraded. I opened a bug in bugzilla, after some time whit no response from the maintainer I

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:37:16 +0100 Mattia Verga mattia.ve...@tiscali.it wrote: I'm just entered the world of Fedora packagers and I see a few points that can be optimized in my opinion. Welcome by the way. ;) 1. I saw a package that need to be upgraded. I opened a bug in bugzilla, after

Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:12:06 +0100, KK (Kevin) wrote: Even in the scenario of project-wide write-access to packages, there must be someone to decide when to perform an upgrade. Not if we make it a project-wide policy to upgrade whenever there isn't a strong reason not to (as I've been

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: Why must it be the opposite? Arbitrary access to packages, possibly sporadic or random upgrades (as time permits), with no one taking care of the packages normally. Because it's a much more effective use of our limited manpower. Everyone does what they currently have

Re: Too much bureaucracy or not enough interest? (Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17)

2012-01-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:45:28 +0100, KK (Kevin) wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: Why must it be the opposite? Arbitrary access to packages, possibly sporadic or random upgrades (as time permits), with no one taking care of the packages normally. Because it's a much more effective use of