Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 30 Jan 2012, at 00:17, Kevin Kofler wrote: Mike Pinkerton wrote: Additionally, app style programs will become more common in the future, whether on a portable or a desktop. Those app style programs are the only way one can create a central marketplace for small, easily downloaded and

Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-30 Thread Emanuel Rietveld
On 01/30/2012 03:38 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: You might not want to encourage the app model, but that boat already left the dock. For Linux distros to be players on portables and desktops, they need to recognize that there is an appetite among the user base for app type programs that are

Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 30 Jan 2012, at 10:01, Emanuel Rietveld wrote: On 01/30/2012 03:38 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: You might not want to encourage the app model, but that boat already left the dock. For Linux distros to be players on portables and desktops, they need to recognize that there is an

Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-30 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/1/30 Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com [...] If (1) we mount /usr ro over the network, and (2) we want /usr to be reserved for managed software (for a variety of reasons), then /usr/local really doesn't fit anymore. Why doesn't /usr/local fit anymore? It was especailly designed

Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 16:01 +0100, Emanuel Rietveld wrote: On 01/30/2012 03:38 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: You might not want to encourage the app model, but that boat already left the dock. For Linux distros to be players on portables and desktops, they need to recognize that there is

Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Pinkerton wrote: If (1) we mount /usr ro over the network, and (2) we want /usr to be reserved for managed software (for a variety of reasons), then /usr/ local really doesn't fit anymore. Because /opt is the only other current directory that makes sense for locally-compiled programs,

Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Pinkerton
I am late to the game but wanted to thank Harald and Kay for their efforts, and to encourage them to go even further. History has brought us to a point where there are at least 7 standard places to put binaries (not counting ~/bin): /bin /opt /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin

Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Pinkerton wrote: I accept your premises that the historical reasons for this division of binaries are no longer compelling, that the present variety of locations is confusing and works against cross-distro compatibility and that simplification is a good thing in itself. I encourage you