Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Matthew Miller
> Thank you for the info. They aren't coloured like on the phone, but > at least I have the symbols now. > Ah, I just read the mailing list post, so this isn't the colour one. > I did wonder how the font system would handle that. It's coming: https://lwn.net/Articles/564944/ -- Matthew Miller

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 01/17/2014 02:52 AM, Peter Oliver wrote: In summary, the emoji font used in Android Jelly Bean is currently in updates-testing; "yum install --enablerepo updates-testing google-android-emoji-fonts". https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/google-android-emoji-fonts Thank you for the info.

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Peter Oliver
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Petr Viktorin wrote: On 01/17/2014 02:25 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Assuming you're using Fedora to read your emails, what font do you have installed that has those glyphs? I can see them on my Android phone, but not on my Fedora laptop. You can use Symbola, yum install gdo

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 01/17/2014 02:25 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 01/16/2014 01:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: The other thing -- getting unicode to include standard symbols -- is happening. That's why we have 💩 . Yay standards! Oh man. Change that to 144pt. Is

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 01/16/2014 01:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: The other thing -- getting unicode to include standard symbols -- is happening. That's why we have 💩 . Yay standards! Oh man. Change that to 144pt. Is it chocolate soft serve with a smile? Or is

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 09:13:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Then get the Unicode people sign off on treating your special special >> characters as text, otherwise it's just an abuse of the system. If all >> the people who want to do th

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:44:12PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Well, it does seem that they're using the Private Use Areas, which are > > specfically reserved for basically this purpose. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas > Well, kinda. That still only works as long as you ca

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:44 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 15:41 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 09:13:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Then get the Unicode people sign off on treating your special special > > > characters as text, otherwise i

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 15:41 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 09:13:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Then get the Unicode people sign off on treating your special special > > characters as text, otherwise it's just an abuse of the system. If all > > the people who want to

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 09:13:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Then get the Unicode people sign off on treating your special special > characters as text, otherwise it's just an abuse of the system. If all > the people who want to do this get together and get a set of agreed upon > generic icon

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 18:37 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Jeu 16 janvier 2014 18:13, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 10:52 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:31 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:59 -0700, T.C. Hollingswor

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > At least in a toolkit you can implement the kind of thing suggested on > the Firefox bug, but still - does this look like awesome pseudo-code to > you? > > if $thing is Unicode character; >render_unicode($thing); > OH OOPS EXCEPT if $

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52:09 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: We've been discussing this as an option for rendering symbolic icons in GTK+ too. But hopefully you won't be claiming the character set is unicode and relying on a specific font containing glyphs for bogus code points. People

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 16 janvier 2014 18:13, Adam Williamson a écrit : > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 10:52 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:31 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:59 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> > >> > > * Another individual thought that all web a

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 10:52 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:31 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:59 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > > > > > * Another individual thought that all web authors are stupid for > > > wanting to use fancy fonts and tha

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:31 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:59 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > > > * Another individual thought that all web authors are stupid for > > wanting to use fancy fonts and that I am wasting my time. (He might > > be right about that last bit.

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.01.2014 14:55, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: > Also sort of related is people who use MS 1252 but claim the character set is > iso-8859-1 blame the firefox developers first and the fools (also Mozilla) who ignores doctypes and follow HTML5 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890478#c

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 22:31:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: If anyone overrides font choices in their browser config and wonders why an increasing number of sites - inc. github, and the wordpress admin interface - seem to display weird hieroglyphs all over the place, it's because of this "

adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 22:59 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > * Another individual thought that all web authors are stupid for > wanting to use fancy fonts and that I am wasting my time. (He might > be right about that last bit... :-P) While we're doing asides, that one *does* get right on my n