Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 12/05/2012 09:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug, and then various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release can have a tracking bug for accepted features themselves, and the tool to produce the chart can simply be

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 6.12.2012 10:14, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): On 12/05/2012 09:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug, and then various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release can have a tracking bug for accepted features themselves,

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 12/06/2012 12:50 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 6.12.2012 10:14, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): On 12/05/2012 09:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug, and then various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release can have a

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:39:03PM -0500, John Dulaney wrote: a feature, especially a crit path feature, is not ready for prime time. Obviously, if a feature is not %100 by feature freeze, then it needs to be dropped. I would even venture to suggest that we

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:14:19AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: Trackign them in bugzilla makes so much sense and seems so blatantly obvious now that you said it... its kinda hard to understand why that hasn't been done from the start. Please make it so :)

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 08:11:01AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: At FUDCon Milan, we discussed using Trac to manage Spin process - it's actually very similar process. And for tracking stuff I think it's more suitable than Bugzilla - custom states, better overviews + use Wiki just for feature

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:50:01AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Don't think it makes more sense then the percentage in wiki. I remember migration from Ruby 1.8.7 to Ruby 1.9.3. We needed to adjust every ruby package in fedora and rebuild them. Some of them were piece of cake, some needed patches,

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 08:11:01AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: At FUDCon Milan, we discussed using Trac to manage Spin process - it's actually very similar process. And for tracking stuff I think it's more

features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:39:03PM -0500, John Dulaney wrote: a feature, especially a crit path feature, is not ready for prime time. Obviously, if a feature is not %100 by feature freeze, then it needs to be dropped. I would even venture to suggest that we include in the SOP something along

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:19:15PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote: I like burndown charts. Low overhead, easily read, and generally more concrete than guesses at percentage done. I wonder if there's a way we can easily provide a widget in the wiki for keeping them up to date. This:

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-05 Thread Fabian Deutsch
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:19:15PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote: I like burndown charts. Low overhead, easily read, and generally more concrete than guesses at percentage done. I wonder if there's a way we can easily provide a widget in the wiki for keeping them up to date. This:

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug, and then various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release can have a tracking bug for accepted features themselves, and the tool to produce the chart can simply be pointed at that and follow the tree

Re: features and percentages [was Re: RFC: Feature process improvements]

2012-12-05 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Rahul Sundaram [06/12/2012 00:39] : Yeah. This makes sense. Wiki for tracking isn't a bright idea really. And the time-tracking is already built in to bugzilla so most of the code needed is already written. Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org