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On 07/09/2014 05:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
I do not know which or if any Spins will be providing the
specific net install CD you're asking about. This will not be an
*official*
On 10 Jul 2014, at 07:04, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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On 07/09/2014 05:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
I do not know which or if any Spins will be providing the
specific net install CD
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On 07/10/2014 09:53 AM, Mike Pinkerton wrote:
On 10 Jul 2014, at 07:04, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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On 07/09/2014 05:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Stephen
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/server-wg/server-wg.2014-02-25-16.00.html
That's why I said the *specific* netinstall he was asking for. The
Fedora Server netinstall wouldn't be producing a non-productized
result, which
On 07/10/2014 05:22 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/server-wg/server-wg.2014-02-25-16.00.html
That's why I said the *specific* netinstall he was asking for. The
Fedora Server netinstall wouldn't
On 07/10/2014 04:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Basically, in order to swap out the productized and non-productized
release packages, it's not actually as simple as 'yum swap
fedora-release-standard fedora-release-server'. The way the dependency
processing works in yum and dnf will generally
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On 07/10/2014 12:45 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On 07/10/2014 04:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Basically, in order to swap out the productized and
non-productized release packages, it's not actually as simple as
'yum swap fedora-release-standard
On 7 Jul 2014, at 11:17, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Stephen Gallagher
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On 07/06/2014 03:43 AM, William wrote:
On Thu, 2014-07-03 at 10:05 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
That's misleading. Fedora
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On 7 Jul 2014, at 11:17, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Stephen Gallagher
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On 07/06/2014 03:43 AM,
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
I do not know which or if any Spins will be providing the specific net
install CD you're asking about. This will not be an *official* (read:
tested by QA) method of installing Fedora. However, I see no reason
why it wouldn't
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On 07/03/2014 05:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:14:52PM +0200, Lennart Poettering
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In a sense, there's a certain amount of this definition that
every Fedora install will have. The Products then add to this
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On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Stephen Gallagher
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On Thu, 2014-07-03 at 10:05 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
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On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 20:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 07/02/2014
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On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 20:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 07/02/2014 06:55 PM, William wrote:
First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the
products will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
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On 07/03/2014 01:42 AM, William wrote:
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 20:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 07/02/2014 06:55 PM, William wrote:
First of all, I'd like to formally
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:14:52PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
In a sense, there's a certain amount of this definition that every
Fedora install will have. The Products then add to this definition. A
basic piece of it is mandatory, but the outer edges are add-ons.
I am not sure this is
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 02:59:20PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or systemd
snippets therein) will be responsible for the creation and maintenance
of /etc/issue, /etc/os-release and /etc/fedora-release-product (note:
there is no $
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:38:15AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
Note that agetty(8) allows to keep /etc/issue distribution
independent and it reads all necessary information from
/etc/os-release to generate the final pre-login message. All you need
is to create /etc/issue with \S sequences, for
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On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:38:15AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
It would be really really nice have only *one* file (/etc/os-release)
that contains operating system identification data. The mess like
/etc/fedora-release and /etc/redhat-release should be
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:47:26AM -0400, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
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On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:38:15AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
It would be really really nice have only *one* file (/etc/os-release)
that contains operating system identification data. The mess like
First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products
will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding
generic-release-$PRODUCT) package. This package will meet several
needs (with magical hand-waving in this initial email).
How will this work with fedup from 20 to 21?
On 07/02/2014 06:55 PM, William wrote:
First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products
will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding
generic-release-$PRODUCT) package. This package will meet several
needs (with magical hand-waving in this initial email).
How
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 20:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 07/02/2014 06:55 PM, William wrote:
First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products
will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding
generic-release-$PRODUCT) package. This package will meet several
Dne 30.6.2014 20:59, Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or systemd
snippets therein) will be responsible for the creation and maintenance
of /etc/issue, /etc/os-release and /etc/fedora-release-product (note:
there is no $ there. That's the
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Dne 30.6.2014 20:59, Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or
systemd snippets therein) will be responsible for the creation
and maintenance of
Dne 1.7.2014 14:37, Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
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Dne 30.6.2014 20:59, Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or
systemd snippets therein) will be
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We're getting down to the wire on Fedora 21 and we need to nail down a
few of the low-level release requirements.
First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products
will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
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We're getting down to the wire on Fedora 21 and we need to nail down a
few of the low-level release requirements.
First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher
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We're getting down to the wire on Fedora 21 and we need to nail
down a few of
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2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or systemd
snippets therein) will be responsible for the creation and maintenance
of /etc/issue, /etc/os-release and /etc/fedora-release-product (note:
there is no
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On Mon, 30.06.14 14:59, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com)
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2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or
systemd snippets therein) will be responsible for the creation
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 14:59 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Additionally, I am working on a proposal[1] for per-product configs in
I think you can go with something very close to this design _if_ you
always have a product. This would mean that even a minimal Fedora
install would need a
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On 06/30/2014 03:54 PM, James Antill wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 14:59 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Additionally, I am working on a proposal[1] for per-product
configs in
I think you can go with something very close to this design _if_
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 15:42 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On 06/30/2014 03:38 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher
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On Mon, Jun 30,
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Any chance that systemd wants to build a hostnamectl-like interface
for setting the os-release values? That would make life a lot easier
on us, as we could reconfigure that file if-and-when a
fedora-release-$PRODUCT package was
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On 06/30/2014 04:10 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Any chance that systemd wants to build a hostnamectl-like
interface for setting the os-release values? That would make
On Mon, 30.06.14 16:16, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
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On 06/30/2014 04:10 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Any chance that systemd wants to build a
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On 06/30/2014 04:22 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 30.06.14 16:16, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com)
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On 06/30/2014 04:10 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30,
On Mon, 30.06.14 16:43, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
Well, ideally we'd like the majority of the file to be owned by
fedora-release and then just add the one or two additional
fields specific to the products programmatically.
I suppose though that we could just carry
On Jun 30, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Mon, 30.06.14 16:43, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
Well, ideally we'd like the majority of the file to be owned by
fedora-release and then just add the one or two additional
fields specific
On Mon, 30.06.14 17:31, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
On Jun 30, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de
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On Mon, 30.06.14 16:43, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
Well, ideally we'd like the majority of the file to be owned
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