Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-26 Thread Pavel Alexeev
25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
 W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
 How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
 No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
 Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)

Thanks, Mikolaj.
But IIRC groovy = 2.0 switched to gradle build only? Have not you
either plans to update it?

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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-26 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:

W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:

How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?

No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)


Thanks, Mikolaj.
But IIRC groovy = 2.0 switched to gradle build only?

yes

Have not you
either plans to update it?


dont forget this problem
groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
groovy-all 2.x asm4
gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4

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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-26 Thread Pavel Alexeev
26.11.2013 15:06, punto...@libero.it wrote:
 Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
 25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
 W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
 How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
 No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
 Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)

 Thanks, Mikolaj.
 But IIRC groovy = 2.0 switched to gradle build only?
 yes
 Have not you
 either plans to update it?

 dont forget this problem
 groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
 groovy-all 2.x asm4
 gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4

Then we have circle? That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
mail list previously)? So, no chance update both without exception use
binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
(bootstrap)?
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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-26 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 26/11/2013 16:42, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

26.11.2013 15:06, punto...@libero.it wrote:

Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:

W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:

How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?

No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)


Thanks, Mikolaj.
But IIRC groovy = 2.0 switched to gradle build only?

yes

Have not you
either plans to update it?


dont forget this problem
groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
groovy-all 2.x asm4
gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4


Then we have circle?

yes

That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
mail list previously)?

yes, but if you do the same type of question the answer is always the same

So, no chance update both without exception use
binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
(bootstrap)?


what would change? ... own nothing ...
gradle, use at runtime those libraries, and don't work with our ...



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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-26 Thread Pavel Alexeev
26.11.2013 20:00, punto...@libero.it пишет:
 Il 26/11/2013 16:42, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
 26.11.2013 15:06, punto...@libero.it wrote:
 Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
 25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
 W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
 How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
 No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
 Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)

 Thanks, Mikolaj.
 But IIRC groovy = 2.0 switched to gradle build only?
 yes
 Have not you
 either plans to update it?

 dont forget this problem
 groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
 groovy-all 2.x asm4
 gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4

 Then we have circle? 
 yes
 That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
 mail list previously)? 
 yes, but if you do the same type of question the answer is always the same
 So, no chance update both without exception use
 binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
 (bootstrap)?

 what would change? ... own nothing ...
 gradle, use at runtime those libraries, and don't work with our ...

Ok, sorry for the stupid questions. May be it because I can't believe in it.
One more question. Did you see how other distributions handle it?
Debian have groovy 2.1.0 (
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/groovy ) and gradle 1.4 (
http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=nameskeywords=gradle )




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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-26 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 26/11/2013 20:57, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

26.11.2013 20:00, punto...@libero.it пишет:

Il 26/11/2013 16:42, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

26.11.2013 15:06,punto...@libero.it  wrote:

Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:

W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:

How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?

No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)


Thanks, Mikolaj.
But IIRC groovy = 2.0 switched to gradle build only?

yes

Have not you
either plans to update it?


dont forget this problem
groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
groovy-all 2.x asm4
gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4


Then we have circle?

yes

That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
mail list previously)?
yes, but if you do the same type of question the answer is always the 
same

So, no chance update both without exception use
binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
(bootstrap)?


what would change? ... own nothing ...
gradle, use at runtime those libraries, and don't work with our ...

Ok, sorry for the stupid questions. May be it because I can't believe 
in it.

questions are never stupid,

One more question. Did you see how other distributions handle it?
Debian have groovy 2.1.0 ( 
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/groovy ) and gradle 1.4 ( 
http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=nameskeywords=gradle )
Debian packaging guideline allow some things,  such as, for e.g., 
groovy-all (with its bundled libraries asm3 commons-cli antlr 2.x) or 
maven-ant-tasks (with its bundled libraries ...) or maven 2.x or 
plexus-container-default 1.0-xxx, etc etc.
and i dont know if the experimental Debian branch is usable with gradle 
... but i think no
about this topic it has been discussed for a long time, and now this 
conversation is only a repetition.

and repeating the same things i broke the boxes, then do not take it amiss
regards
again my apologized








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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread Pavel Alexeev
Hi.
I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
Have you tried update to gradle 1.9? Have it same conflicts?

12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:
 hi
 i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
 there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
 incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
 longer shipped in Fedora)
 or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

 regards
 gil





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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread Marek Goldmann

Hi Pavel,

Please take a look at the java-devel archives, where it was discussed:


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2013-October/004972.html

--Marek

On 25.11.2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev wrote:

Hi.
I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
Have you tried update to gradle 1.9? Have it same conflicts?

12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:

hi
i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
longer shipped in Fedora)
or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

regards
gil









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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
hi

Hi.
I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?

no

Have it same conflicts?


yes,
see
org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable in 
fedora) ship asm3 classes
org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to newer 
eclipse aether-ant-tasks

org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse aether
regards
gil

12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:

hi
i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
longer shipped in Fedora)

or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

regards
gil










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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 25/11/2013 14:31, punto...@libero.it ha scritto:

Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
hi

Hi.
I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?

no

Have it same conflicts?


yes,
see 
https://github.com/gradle/gradle/blob/REL_1.9/gradle/dependencies.gradle
org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable 
in fedora) ship asm3 classes
org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to 
newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse 
aether

regards
gil

12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:

hi
i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
longer shipped in Fedora)

or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

regards
gil














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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread Pavel Alexeev
Hi,

25.11.2013 17:31, punto...@libero.it wrote:
 Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
 hi
 Hi.
 I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
 Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?
 no
 Have it same conflicts?

 yes,
 see
 org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable
 in fedora) ship asm3 classes
 org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to
 newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
 org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse
 aether
 regards
 gil
Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
And thanks for the answers.
 12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:
 hi
 i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
 there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
 incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
 longer shipped in Fedora)
 or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

 regards
 gil











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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 25/11/2013 17:02, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

Hi,

25.11.2013 17:31, punto...@libero.it wrote:

Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
hi

Hi.
I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?

no

Have it same conflicts?


yes,
see
org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable 
in fedora) ship asm3 classes
org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to 
newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse 
aether

regards
gil

Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
And thanks for the answers.

yes, but without success

12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:

hi
i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
longer shipped in Fedora)

or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

regards
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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread Pavel Alexeev
25.11.2013 20:32, punto...@libero.it пишет:
 Il 25/11/2013 17:02, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
 Hi,

 25.11.2013 17:31, punto...@libero.it wrote:
 Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
 hi
 Hi.
 I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
 Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?
 no
 Have it same conflicts?

 yes,
 see
 org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable
 in fedora) ship asm3 classes
 org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to
 newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
 org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer
 eclipse aether
 regards
 gil
 Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
 And thanks for the answers.
 yes, but without success
Sad tor heard.
How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
 12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:
 hi
 i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
 there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
 incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
 longer shipped in Fedora)
 or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

 regards
 gil

















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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 25/11/2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

25.11.2013 20:32, punto...@libero.it пишет:

Il 25/11/2013 17:02, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:

Hi,

25.11.2013 17:31, punto...@libero.it wrote:

Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
hi

Hi.
I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?

no

Have it same conflicts?


yes,
see
org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not 
importable in fedora) ship asm3 classes
org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to 
newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer 
eclipse aether

regards
gil

Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
And thanks for the answers.

yes, but without success

Sad tor heard.
How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?

i don't know. sorry

12.11.2013 19:58, punto...@libero.it wrote:

hi
i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
longer shipped in Fedora)

or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

regards
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Re: orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-25 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
 How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?

No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)

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orphan/retire gradle

2013-11-12 Thread punto...@libero.it

hi
i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no longer 
shipped in Fedora)

or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

regards
gil


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