Re: package managemt symlink

2019-02-05 Thread Dan Čermák
Vít Ondruch  writes:

> Dne 05. 02. 19 v 11:09 Dan Čermák napsal(a):
>> Hi Sören,
>>
>> while I don't want to discourage you in your work, symlinking the
>> package manager to /usr/bin/nimue isn't going to solve a more
>> fundamental issue: every distro has a different naming scheme for
>> packages. Sure, the "big" programs (Firefox for instance) have usually
>> the name you'd expect, but with libraries this won't help at all.
>>
>> Practical example: I want to install the development version of
>> expat:
>> Fedora & CentOS: expat-devel
>> Debian & Ubuntu: libexpat1-dev
>> OpenSUSE: libexpat-devel
>> Arch: expat
>> Alpine: expat-dev
>>
>> Solving this is next to impossible, unless you want to enumerate
>> **every** single package of **every** supported distro manually.
>
>
> Surprisingly, I believe that release-monitoring.org could help with
> this, since there is upstream project mapping vs the distribution name
> mapping. IDK if there could be better source for this.

Sure, if everyone would participate it could solve this issue. But
reusing my above example expat:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/770/
Unfortunately only Alpine, Arch and Fedora are listed.

And it looks like release-monitoring.org doesn't track the name of the
libraries (which are probably subpackages).

Nevertheless, release-monitoring.org could solve this issue.

>
>
> Vít
>
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Valor Naram  writes:
>>
>>> Dear Fedora mailing list community,
>>>
>>> I am Sören alias Valor Naram and I founded the project "goeasyLinux". I 
>>> will help to make linux more user friendly.
>>>
>>> A short introduction to "goeasyLinux" can be found at 
>>> https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/README.md
>>>
>>> The specification I wrote in order to make a cross platform symlink to 
>>> package management systems: 
>>> https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/package%20management/package%20install.md
>>>
>>> With your help I want to make package installing/removing equal on all 
>>> linux systems without disturbing the diversity we have across linux 
>>> distributions. In order to do that we need just a symlink, no replacement 
>>> of existing software.
>>>
>>> I think you did something similar in the past.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Sören alias Valor Naram
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: package managemt symlink

2019-02-05 Thread Vít Ondruch

Dne 05. 02. 19 v 11:09 Dan Čermák napsal(a):
> Hi Sören,
>
> while I don't want to discourage you in your work, symlinking the
> package manager to /usr/bin/nimue isn't going to solve a more
> fundamental issue: every distro has a different naming scheme for
> packages. Sure, the "big" programs (Firefox for instance) have usually
> the name you'd expect, but with libraries this won't help at all.
>
> Practical example: I want to install the development version of
> expat:
> Fedora & CentOS: expat-devel
> Debian & Ubuntu: libexpat1-dev
> OpenSUSE: libexpat-devel
> Arch: expat
> Alpine: expat-dev
>
> Solving this is next to impossible, unless you want to enumerate
> **every** single package of **every** supported distro manually.


Surprisingly, I believe that release-monitoring.org could help with
this, since there is upstream project mapping vs the distribution name
mapping. IDK if there could be better source for this.


Vít


>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dan
>
> Valor Naram  writes:
>
>> Dear Fedora mailing list community,
>>
>> I am Sören alias Valor Naram and I founded the project "goeasyLinux". I will 
>> help to make linux more user friendly.
>>
>> A short introduction to "goeasyLinux" can be found at 
>> https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/README.md
>>
>> The specification I wrote in order to make a cross platform symlink to 
>> package management systems: 
>> https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/package%20management/package%20install.md
>>
>> With your help I want to make package installing/removing equal on all linux 
>> systems without disturbing the diversity we have across linux distributions. 
>> In order to do that we need just a symlink, no replacement of existing 
>> software.
>>
>> I think you did something similar in the past.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Sören alias Valor Naram
>>
>>
>>
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Re: package managemt symlink

2019-02-05 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi Sören,

while I don't want to discourage you in your work, symlinking the
package manager to /usr/bin/nimue isn't going to solve a more
fundamental issue: every distro has a different naming scheme for
packages. Sure, the "big" programs (Firefox for instance) have usually
the name you'd expect, but with libraries this won't help at all.

Practical example: I want to install the development version of
expat:
Fedora & CentOS: expat-devel
Debian & Ubuntu: libexpat1-dev
OpenSUSE: libexpat-devel
Arch: expat
Alpine: expat-dev

Solving this is next to impossible, unless you want to enumerate
**every** single package of **every** supported distro manually.


Cheers,

Dan

Valor Naram  writes:

> Dear Fedora mailing list community,
>
> I am Sören alias Valor Naram and I founded the project "goeasyLinux". I will 
> help to make linux more user friendly.
>
> A short introduction to "goeasyLinux" can be found at 
> https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/README.md
>
> The specification I wrote in order to make a cross platform symlink to 
> package management systems: 
> https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/package%20management/package%20install.md
>
> With your help I want to make package installing/removing equal on all linux 
> systems without disturbing the diversity we have across linux distributions. 
> In order to do that we need just a symlink, no replacement of existing 
> software.
>
> I think you did something similar in the past.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Sören alias Valor Naram
>
>
>
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package managemt symlink

2019-02-04 Thread Valor Naram
Dear Fedora mailing list community,

I am Sören alias Valor Naram and I founded the project "goeasyLinux". I will 
help to make linux more user friendly.

A short introduction to "goeasyLinux" can be found at 
https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/README.md

The specification I wrote in order to make a cross platform symlink to package 
management systems: 
https://github.com/ValorNaram/goeasylinux/blob/master/package%20management/package%20install.md

With your help I want to make package installing/removing equal on all linux 
systems without disturbing the diversity we have across linux distributions. In 
order to do that we need just a symlink, no replacement of existing software.

I think you did something similar in the past.

Best wishes

Sören alias Valor Naram



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