Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-10 Thread Doug Ledford
On 9/9/2012 2:03 AM, Gary Gatling wrote: Hey guys, I decided to ask if he would be willing to add an epoc tag as Ken suggested or be willing to become a maintainer or co-maintainer. I think he just continues to insist that rpm work in a way its not designed... (Have two versions of the same

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-09 Thread Gary Gatling
Hey guys, I decided to ask if he would be willing to add an epoc tag as Ken suggested or be willing to become a maintainer or co-maintainer. I think he just continues to insist that rpm work in a way its not designed... (Have two versions of the same software thing on a box) Here is his response

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-09 Thread Mattia Verga
Renaming just the package doesn't solve problems of conflicting files. Libraries and binaries provided by the two packages will have the same name, so it's not possible to have both installed beacuse one conflicts with the other. The idea of just install a pre-release version without

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-09 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:03 -0400, Gary Gatling wrote: ...a user may be using the distribution-supplied version for day-to-day work, but they may need to install a pre-release to test a new fix, or to temporarily use a pre-release until a fix is deployed via YUM. It would be nice for them

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-09 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sunday, September 09, 2012 02:03 PM, Gary Gatling wrote: So a question would be do I need to jump through more hoops so that: ...a user may be using the distribution-supplied version for day-to-day work, but they may need to install a pre-release to test a new fix, or to temporarily use a

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 02:03:32AM -0400, Gary Gatling wrote: packages will clobber theirs. However, what I'm really trying to achieve is the ability to install our package alongside the distribution-supplied package. The idea is that a user may be using the So, it happens that this is a

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:32:17 -0400 Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 02:03:32AM -0400, Gary Gatling wrote: packages will clobber theirs. However, what I'm really trying to achieve is the ability to install our package alongside the distribution-supplied

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 09:42:58PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Please note the warning on the top of this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SoftwareCollections Except and until they are approved for use in Fedora, please do NOT setup your packages with SoftwareCollections. Right, but this

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-08 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Gary Gatling gsgat...@ncsu.edu wrote: If a upstream project somehow objects to someone packaging their software should you just give up and tell people that the upstream would prefer you download their self created rpms or is it considered acceptable to go ahead

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-08 Thread Mattia Verga
I don't see the reason for someone to install and use two versions of the same thing and I think that renaming the package other than project name is a bad idea... Besides that, if the developer doesn't want that others redistribuite his program he can always change the license or become

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-08 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Ken Dreyer wrote: With VirtualGL, if his main concern is that Fedora's RPMs will overwrite the ones that he sells, could he just bump the Epoch tag in his copies? This is exactly what I did with custom rpms for opendnssec that depended on proprietary PKCS#11 drivers and

upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-07 Thread Gary Gatling
Hello, I am working on a package called VirtualGL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834127 After contacting the upstream on their mailing list, they seem obsessed with being able to install their own rprms and my package together at the same time. This seems odd / bad to me since only

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-07 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 16:54 -0400, Gary Gatling wrote: Hello, I am working on a package called VirtualGL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834127 After contacting the upstream on their mailing list, they seem obsessed with being able to install their own rprms and my

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-07 Thread Gary Gatling
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: That's not usually something Fedora does. The package name takes the name of the upstream project, because the package *is* the delivery option for that software in Fedora. We do not care that much about upstream RPMs that

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-07 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Gary Gatling gsgat...@ncsu.edu wrote: But like everything else he is talking about, I feel its not my problem. And I don't really care. Maybe thats evil/wrong of me? Well, there are occasions when upstream's priorities are somewhat antithetical to what we're

Re: upstream wants me to rename my package

2012-09-07 Thread Gary Gatling
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Ken Dreyer ktdre...@ktdreyer.com wrote: Well, there are occasions when upstream's priorities are somewhat antithetical to what we're doing in Fedora. And pissing off upstream is never a great idea :) I think the goal is tread carefully, walking the fine line