Re: why some package are retired and others are retired without be orphan ?

2021-04-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:11:37AM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> while https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/projectM-jack is retired ,
> 
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/publican-fedora and https://src.fedo
> raproject.org/rpms/gdesklets have the button orphan , why ? 
> 
> Or better , when the package is retired by some rules like FTBFS or
> RetirePython2 , the package should be also orphaned . To allow other
> packager adopt it (IMO). 

FTBFS should be orphaning for a period and then retiring. 

remember: 

orphan: Package looking for anyone(s) to take over maintaining it. 

retired: It was orphaned for a while and no one took it over, or it is
no longer suitable to maintain in fedora (python2, stack it depends on
went away, obsoleted/replaced by another package, etc). 

kevin


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Re: why some package are retired and others are retired without be orphan ?

2021-04-22 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:53:47PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:11:37AM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > while https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/projectM-jack is retired ,
> > 
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/publican-fedora and https://src.fedo
> > raproject.org/rpms/gdesklets have the button orphan , why ? 
> 
> Because they still have a main admin?
> If that main admin was "orphan", you would not see that button.
> 
> And in the case of these two packages:
> - publican-fedora has not been orphaned nor retired
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/publican-fedora/
> https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/rest_api/v1/component-branches/?global_component=publican-fedora=rpm=rawhide
> 
> - gdesklets has not been orphaned but seems to have been retired
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdesklets/
> https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/rest_api/v1/component-branches/?global_component=gdesklets=rpm=rawhide
> 
> 
> > Or better , when the package is retired by some rules like FTBFS or
> > RetirePython2 , the package should be also orphaned . To allow other
> > packager adopt it (IMO). 
> 
> We have a cron that runs monthly and orphans all packages that have been
> retired. 
> Looking at its last run, it should have processed gdesklets:
> > - Orphaning rpms/gdesklets from sergiomb
> > - Removing access on rpms/gdesklets to sergiomb
> 
> I'll try to debug why it did not.

Found it, gdesklet has been orphaned :)


Pierre
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Re: why some package are retired and others are retired without be orphan ?

2021-04-22 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:11:37AM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> while https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/projectM-jack is retired ,
> 
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/publican-fedora and https://src.fedo
> raproject.org/rpms/gdesklets have the button orphan , why ? 

Because they still have a main admin?
If that main admin was "orphan", you would not see that button.

And in the case of these two packages:
- publican-fedora has not been orphaned nor retired
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/publican-fedora/
https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/rest_api/v1/component-branches/?global_component=publican-fedora=rpm=rawhide

- gdesklets has not been orphaned but seems to have been retired
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdesklets/
https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/rest_api/v1/component-branches/?global_component=gdesklets=rpm=rawhide


> Or better , when the package is retired by some rules like FTBFS or
> RetirePython2 , the package should be also orphaned . To allow other
> packager adopt it (IMO). 

We have a cron that runs monthly and orphans all packages that have been
retired. 
Looking at its last run, it should have processed gdesklets:
> - Orphaning rpms/gdesklets from sergiomb
> - Removing access on rpms/gdesklets to sergiomb

I'll try to debug why it did not.


Thanks,
Pierre
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why some package are retired and others are retired without be orphan ?

2021-04-22 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, 

while https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/projectM-jack is retired ,

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/publican-fedora and https://src.fedo
raproject.org/rpms/gdesklets have the button orphan , why ? 

Or better , when the package is retired by some rules like FTBFS or
RetirePython2 , the package should be also orphaned . To allow other
packager adopt it (IMO). 


Best regards,
-- 
Sérgio M. B.
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