New joyride build 1807

2008-03-27 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1807 Changes in build 1807 from build: 1806 Size delta: -2.36M -olpc-library-core 1-23 +olpc-library-core 1-26 -kbd 1.12-24.olpc2 +kbd 1.12-25.olpc2 -olpc-library-common 1-23 +olpc-library-common 1-24 --- Changes for olpc-library-core

New faster build 1807

2008-03-27 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1807 Changes in build 1807 from build: 1806 Size delta: -2.23M -olpc-library-core 1-23 +olpc-library-core 1-26 -kbd 1.12-24.olpc2 +kbd 1.12-25.olpc2 -olpc-library-common 1-23 +olpc-library-common 1-24 --- Changes for olpc-library-core

Re: Playing w/ Activity packs in build 702

2008-03-27 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
2008/3/26, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dr. Geo II - v.104 does run but really, really slowly To be accurate the slowish comes from the load time in Squeak because DrGeo Smalltalk code is compiled at each load time. I will fix it in one way or the other. In the other hand , once loaded

Re: [Testing] Automated testing, OLPC, code+screencasts.

2008-03-27 Thread Charles Merriam
Hello Titus, Good to see you at PyCon. Here's a random idea I think would be worthwhile, if it could work well into the Sugar-gui or even the other subsystems of Sugar. Tooting my own horn today, Charles Merriam === http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/?p=106 Problem: Testing GUIs tends to be

Re: Playing w/ Activity packs in build 702

2008-03-27 Thread Bryan Berry
Hilaire, I expected it to start slowly but then found it quite sluggish, esp. compared to regular etoys. just browsing the menus was fairly sluggish On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 08:19 +0100, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: 2008/3/26, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dr. Geo II - v.104 does run but

customization key for Nepal and build 702

2008-03-27 Thread Bryan Berry
I have posted to the wiki the customizations I have made for OLE Nepal's teacher training program this Saturday. There are a number of __great__ activities that I left out of my custom build. I didn't include them simply because I haven't tested them very thoroughly. Hope to include them later.

Re: Playing w/ Activity packs in build 702

2008-03-27 Thread Bryan Berry
We (OLE Nepal team) would like to help but we are crashing on preparing our own EPaati activities. I hope we can get more time to work on other activities in the coming months On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:22 +0100, Bruno Coudoin wrote: Le mercredi 26 mars 2008 à 14:32 -0400, Kim Quirk a écrit :

Re: [Testing] Automated testing, OLPC, code+screencasts.

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Charles, Consider adding it the the GObject functions. Call a new gobject.dump_main_context() and get a huge Python data structure back. You're describing at-spi¹, which is an accessibility framework that provides introspection on GUI widgets. There's an existing GUI test

DrGeo sluggish

2008-03-27 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Bryan, I change the subject. Please elaborate what is exactly sluggish because from my own usability test with DrGeoII on a XO laptop B4, I did not find it sluggish. Really I just try now, and I don't see where it is sluggish (expect the loading time). Are you using the XO bundle available from

New update.1 build 703

2008-03-27 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build703 Changes in build 703 from build: 702 Size delta: -2.22M -olpc-library-core 1-23 +olpc-library-core 1-26 -kbd 1.12-24.olpc2 +kbd 1.12-25.olpc2 -libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-1 +libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-2 -olpc-library-common

Re: Playing w/ Activity packs in build 702

2008-03-27 Thread Gary C Martin
On 27 Mar 2008, at 05:25, Bryan Berry wrote: Can anyone tell me how to install TamTam from scratch? Not sure if this is the official way – but hidden in the update- activities.py script from Bert Freudenberg is a very useful link to a whole bunch of .xo builds, not all of which are available

Re: Playing w/ Activity packs in build 702

2008-03-27 Thread Bryan Berry
Gary, thanks a lot. This is extremely helpful. and thanks to Bert as well On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 15:03 +, Gary C Martin wrote: On 27 Mar 2008, at 05:25, Bryan Berry wrote: Can anyone tell me how to install TamTam from scratch? Not sure if this is the official way – but hidden in the

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread Ricardo Carrano
(Time to stop using active antennas for packet capture ?) Please check with another sniffer if you can still listen to beacons from this active antenna. If so, please stop using it as a sniffer. Please take a look at #6709. I also see a strong correlation between data rate and path

any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread Bryan Berry
Other than the fact that the firmware security has to be left disabled to use these commands, are there any technical drawbacks to using these commands? I use them extensively and hope I am not causing some kind of damage to our XO's -- Bryan W. Berry Systems Engineer OLE Nepal,

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bryan Berry wrote: Other than the fact that the firmware security has to be left disabled to use these commands, are there any technical drawbacks to using these commands? I use them extensively and hope I am not causing some kind of damage to our XO's save/copy-nand don't preserve user

Re: Sharing behavior in the core Read activity

2008-03-27 Thread James Simmons
John, This week I finally got everything in sugar-jhbuild to compile. The Browse activity is the only thing that doesn't work. It can't find a Mozilla library file. In any case, I was able to get my Read Etexts activity to share reliably. My activity saves the file to the journal if it

Listen and Spell Activity for GSoC

2008-03-27 Thread Assim Deodia
Hi All, I would like to inform everybody that I have submitted an application for Listen and Spell which is a self voicing activity that would help children to learn new words, improve spellings and pronunciation. This activity is the extension of the idea by Tom Hannen (

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread John Watlington
No damage to the hardware, but we have seen a number of weird problems in the past from this method of building an image. It is not recommended. wad On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: Other than the fact that the firmware security has to be left disabled to use these

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Ricardo Carrano wrote: (Time to stop using active antennas for packet capture ?) Please check with another sniffer if you can still listen to beacons from this active antenna. If so, please stop using it as a sniffer. Please take a look at #6709. I

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread Michael Stone
Bryan, Several weeks ago, I was asked to do reverse engineer an image created via save-nand for another client and I discovered many unexpected differences that had crept into the image as a result of lack of detailed knowledge of what happens during the first boot and lack of established

Re: [Testing] Automated testing, OLPC, code+screencasts.

2008-03-27 Thread Charles Merriam
I just glanced at DogTail: + GUI testing written in Python + Allows some querying/setting of actual fields. - Not maintained for past couple years - Most documentation and examples missing - Test cases appear verbose, but hard to tell with all examples missing. - Testing uses 'tree' approach

Re: [Testing] Automated testing, OLPC, code+screencasts.

2008-03-27 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Charles Merriam wrote: I just glanced at DogTail: + GUI testing written in Python + Allows some querying/setting of actual fields. - Not maintained for past couple years - Most documentation and examples missing - Test cases appear verbose, but hard to tell with all

State of Update.1, March 27, 2008

2008-03-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, First, thanks to all the testers that have been contributed already! For those of you who want to help and do an one hour smoke test do: a) Follow the instructions here to update your machine to update.1-703 and how you can install the activities

Tkinter in olpc

2008-03-27 Thread Aaron Konstam
Does anyone have and opinion on whether python's Tkinter facility could be added to python on the XO by simply copying the contents of lib-tk from an f7 system? -- === Ain't that something what happened today. One of us got traded

Re: Playing w/ Activity packs in build 702

2008-03-27 Thread Jean Piché
Bryan, You need to use the latest verisons of TamTam found here: http://mock.laptop.org/repos/local.update1/XOS/index.html and install them either in /usr/share/activities or /home/olpc/Activities Until next week, you will not be able to save .ogg files and audiofiles recorded with the

Re: [sugar] Joyride is reopened for development.

2008-03-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi all, On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We announced the Joyride builds as having been frozen for new features several months ago, as we solidified the Update.1 build. Now that it's doing fine in its own stream, we're reopening the Joyride

Re: [sugar] Joyride is reopened for development.

2008-03-27 Thread david
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We announced the Joyride builds as having been frozen for new features several months ago, as we solidified the Update.1 build. Now that it's doing fine in its own

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread Ricardo Carrano
(Time to stop using active antennas for packet capture ?) Please check with another sniffer if you can still listen to beacons from this active antenna. If so, please stop using it as a sniffer. Please take a look at #6709. I already logged with multiple sniffers. Yes, the beacons

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 03:23:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: A much better strategy is to reflash an XO, boot it off of external media (like a USB key), make changes to the NAND, then save-nand, thus avoiding the first-boot configuration junk. I agree, and

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:21:10PM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: I would argue that the existence of first-boot configuration changes is in itself a problem. I thought a bit about this last night as I was falling asleep and I came to the realization that we would also do a better job of running

Re: UI usability for 4 year old (was Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas!)

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:51 AM, K. K. Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is tough for young children to use trackpad like a mouse - with a single hand. Using it bi-manually with two index fingers is not only easier but also prepares them for typing on the keyboard later. The child can

Correction: TamTam MUST be in /usr/share/activities to work.

2008-03-27 Thread Jean Piché
We are working on a fix to make it work in /home/olpc. The fix is almost ready but details remain. _ http://jeanpiche.com On 27-Mar-08, at 4:14 PM, Jean Piché wrote: Bryan, You need to use the latest verisons of TamTam found here:

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/3/27 Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My suggestion for the Cambrige testbed is: 1 - Validade probe response driver patch submitted by Marvell and implement it 2 - Increase contention window from 7,31 ro 31, 1023 3 - Increase route expiration time from 10 to 20 seconds 4 - Increase

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread david
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote: 2008/3/27 Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My suggestion for the Cambrige testbed is: 1 - Validade probe response driver patch submitted by Marvell and implement it 2 - Increase contention window from 7,31 ro 31, 1023 3 - Increase route

Re: Testing Update.1-702

2008-03-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 26 March 2008, you wrote: Dear everyone, At today's software status meeting, several individuals, including: dgilmore erikos bemasc Blaketh mstone volunteered [had their arms twisted] into running the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_Hour_Smoke_Test I ran through

Re: [sugar] Testing Update.1-702

2008-03-27 Thread Walter Bender
Michael and I sorted through some customization issues for Peru/Mexico. Other than the 6776 bug that Dennis reported and for which we have prepared a patch, I think we are in reasonable shape. Could we possibly get a signed 704 out the door tomorrow for testing in Peru and Mexico? thanks.

Re: New faster build 1807

2008-03-27 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1807 Can't download faster-1807 from build server via olpc-update; no space left on device /home/upserv/builds... -- Gary Oberbrunner ___ Devel mailing list

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread mbletsas
It is safe to change these values on the fly. Marvell was discussing doing it automatically. A simple heuristic to check if there is congestion is to check the retransmission counters. So this is a relatively simple to implement adaptive behavior. M - Original Message - From: Martin

Re: [sugar] Testing Update.1-702

2008-03-27 Thread Michael Stone
Could we possibly get a signed 704 out the door tomorrow for testing in Peru and Mexico? We'll do what we can. What changes do you want to see in 704? (After reviewing Jim's bug list, I just discovered #6185 STK jg/sayamindu (translate devkey request page) [5 weeks] which might be worth