Airlink 101

2008-04-18 Thread wahida mansouri
Is the Airlink 101 which is used to test 802.11s supported by OLPC ? __ Do You Yahoo!? En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicités http://mail.yahoo.fr Yahoo! Mail

freezing DCON for insecure boot

2008-04-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Hello Mitch Scott, I have a laptop with a developer key, running an unsigned image with a few customizations for Turkey. They want a pretty custom logo and I succeeded in getting it to work in insecure mode, but it looks ugly because they see the kernel barfing diag messages on the console for

Adding mpeg playback

2008-04-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Hello Andriani, our partners in Turkey are asking if the laptop can do mpeg playback. I said there are no technical reasons why it couldn't, but there are restrictive patent laws in the United States that do not let us ship mpeg software on the laptop. We bundle Ogg Theora as a replacement.

Re: Airlink 101

2008-04-18 Thread Sameer Verma
wahida mansouri wrote: Is the Airlink 101 which is used to test 802.11s supported by OLPC ? Can you provide a link for the product in question? Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA

Re: freezing DCON for insecure boot

2008-04-18 Thread Kim Quirk
Bernie, It is really, really important that we don't encourage countries to have their own images if they are not developers participating in active development of our code base. We've had some good discussions around this recently as it has become very difficult to support Uruguay. This is why

Re: Developer key

2008-04-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Daly, please turn to a support forum, this is getting ridiculous for the developer's list: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support - Bert - On 18.04.2008, at 13:58, Daly Ikbel wrote: I wrote a capital p. I don't know other methods to download the key. If possible more information.

Re: freezing DCON for insecure boot

2008-04-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 08:34 -0400, Kim Quirk wrote: Bernie, It is really, really important that we don't encourage countries to have their own images if they are not developers participating in active development of our code base. Turkey is going to be a big deployment, but as you say it

Re: Adding mpeg playback

2008-04-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernie Innocenti wrote: | They asked me if there would be problems for Turkey and I | thaid that while I did not know their IP law, I hear it's | not a problem in many European countries. | | Do you know better? Read this:

Re: Adding mpeg playback

2008-04-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 09:23 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Read this: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9887955-7.html Europe is no longer free of software patents; in fact, it's actually _worse_ than the US. In the US, it's a matter of litigation, and your stuff can be taken away

Re: Adding mpeg playback

2008-04-18 Thread Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves
Out of curiosity, why are they not giving Theora a try? -Ivo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread Kim Quirk
In my experience running QA teams and releases for commercial projects, small fast releases require (or imply) quite a bit of focused process and really good automation on the testing side. Also, after other discussions on this list, it seems like there are two other items that drive 'major

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:09 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Ashish comments on #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 as follows: Currently firmware 5.110.22.p8/9 does not support more than 8 multicast mac addresses. Is there a possibility that any given point of time there are more than 8

Re: Adding mpeg playback

2008-04-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 14:51 +0100, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: Out of curiosity, why are they not giving Theora a try? They gave me an mpeg video of the ministry of education speaking and asked me to make it play on the laptop. I said we'd have to convert it to theora. They asked me how could

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:09 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Ashish comments on #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 as follows: Currently firmware 5.110.22.p8/9 does not support more than 8 multicast mac

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:58 -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote: Mmm, if the driver says it is 32 and the firmware only allows for 8, we have a problem, don't we? ;-) Indeed. Do we know which versions of firmware support which numbers of addresses? Remember, this driver handles lots of devices, some

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Is it possible to associate shared activities with ethernet ports instead of whole multicast addresses? Then we would only need one single multicast address and do the filtering on the ethernet ports (eg IP is port 0x0800). At the very least, the multicast address is 6 bytes and the ethernet

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:43 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Is it possible to associate shared activities with ethernet ports instead of whole multicast addresses? Then we would only need one single multicast address and do the filtering on the ethernet ports (eg IP is port

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
what's possible? why not? David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:43 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Is it possible to associate shared activities with ethernet ports instead of whole multicast addresses? Then we would only need one single multicast address and do the

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:50 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: what's possible? why not? David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:43 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Is it possible to associate shared activities with ethernet ports instead of whole multicast

Re: Adding mpeg playback

2008-04-18 Thread Sameer Verma
Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 14:51 +0100, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: Out of curiosity, why are they not giving Theora a try? They gave me an mpeg video of the ministry of education speaking and asked me to make it play on the laptop. I said we'd have to convert

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:50 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: what's possible? why not? David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:43 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Is it possible to associate shared activities with

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 12:01 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: You're not following: Ethernet ports are bytes 12-14 (2 bytes total) on _all_ ethernet frames. IP has nothing to do with this. Instead of looking at the first 6 bytes (destination mac) for a

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 12:08 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Dynamic mapping from a single 6-byte address to multiple 16-byte addresses? The other way round. Given an IPv6 multicast address, there exists a MAC address associated with that IPv6 address. When we join the multicast

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 12:01 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: You're not following: Ethernet ports are bytes 12-14 (2 bytes total) on _all_ ethernet frames. IP has nothing to do with this. Instead of looking at the first 6 bytes (destination mac) for a specific multicast address,

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 12:01 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: You're not following: Ethernet ports are bytes 12-14 (2 bytes total) on _all_ ethernet frames. IP has nothing to do with this. Instead of looking at the first 6 bytes (destination mac) for a specific multicast address,

Re: Adding mpeg playback

2008-04-18 Thread Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves
On 4/18/08, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VLC on Windows should be able to do this (note: I haven't verified this myself). Yes, and ffmpeg2theora also works in Windows. Because this is indeed the one big problem with Theora (tools), Xiph has a Summer of Code project to create a

Re: Tickets for mesh problems

2008-04-18 Thread Giannis Galanis
We have these network UI bugs: 5904 - GUI problem updating buddies clustered around shared activity 5459 - second circle in sugar home view provides false information 5908 - Laptop unable to connect to schoolserver jabber server Also 4193 - Two XOs were connected to an access point and were

Re: Advice on implementing a zooming interface?

2008-04-18 Thread chombee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 20:50 +0530, K. K. Subramaniam wrote: On Wednesday 16 Apr 2008 6:35:18 pm chombee wrote: I have tested a paper + card version of a prototype story writing tool with children, and now need to implement a computer version of the prototype. I don't have my interface

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:26 AM, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:58 -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote: Mmm, if the driver says it is 32 and the firmware only allows for 8, we have a problem, don't we? ;-) Indeed. Do we know which versions of firmware support

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 14:19 -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote: The multicast filter was implemented in 22p8 (with the limit of 8 since them). Is that what you're asking? Then the firmware was just ignoring the MAC list before then, and always implementing the ALLMULTI behaviour? -- dwmw2

Clipboard[PATCH]

2008-04-18 Thread Eric Burns
This patch disables the frame from popping up when you copy an object to the clipboard and instead pops up a notification icon in the bottom left hand corner. It also adds the ability to add_notification() for future use to place icons in any of the four corners. From

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-18 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:50 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: what's possible? why not? David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:43 -0400, Polychronis

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-18 Thread Dafydd Harries
Ar 12/04/2008 am 02:22, ysgrifennodd Mel Chua: Also, to answer Daf's original question, I took a stab and put up http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking_scenarios (with some discussion from this thread on the talk page) - move/edit/delete and all the usual if I've duplicated something. This page

Re: freezing DCON for insecure boot

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello Mitch Scott, I have a laptop with a developer key, running an unsigned image with a few customizations for Turkey. They want a pretty custom logo and I succeeded in getting it to work in insecure mode, but it looks ugly because they see the kernel barfing

Re: [Server-devel] noob needs Poodle, Moodle, Drupal mentoring

2008-04-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Yama, DIY instructions: - install a basic Ubuntu linux machine - install moodle and drupal via the packaging system - apt-get install moodle drupal5 - have a read of the README.Debian file in each to see how to complete the configuration - Poodle... google a Poodle install howto and follow

Re: freezing DCON for insecure boot

2008-04-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Italy also asked us for a build with better Italian support. They know how to work with Pootle, and they actually have already done most of the work. But this work will certainly not make it for Update.1, and they

Re: Translation refresh (Was: freezing DCON for insecure boot)

2008-04-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 17:25 -0300, C. Scott Ananian wrote: Can you be more precise about the dates involved and the precise pieces which need better Italian support? Activity translation improvements don't need to wait for Update.2. If it's just translation changes to the base system, we

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/4/18 Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In my experience running QA teams and releases for commercial projects, small fast releases require (or imply) quite a bit of focused process and really good automation on the testing side. Excellent ideas, both, in any case. Also, after other

Re: Airlink 101

2008-04-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/4/18 wahida mansouri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is the Airlink 101 which is used to test 802.11s supported by OLPC ? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wireless_Access_Point_Compatibility ManufacturerModel Firmware Tested Notes Airlink 101 AR525W v1.0.50 Yes

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread david
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Kim Quirk wrote: In my experience running QA teams and releases for commercial projects, small fast releases require (or imply) quite a bit of focused process and really good automation on the testing side. Also, after other discussions on this list, it seems like there

list of laptops connected to jabber

2008-04-18 Thread Giannis Galanis
When connecting to a jabber server, how can we check the list of XOs that are seen in the mesh view, or the analyze activity? Is checking the gabble log the only way? What records in the log indicate arrival or departure? When testing with 50 or 100 XOs connected it is often impractical to

Re: [Server-devel] Transfers between xo and school-server

2008-04-18 Thread Robson Mendonça
Hi Martin, I was posted a answer for your question about moodle and mediawiki, What you think about? Bye, luck for us -- Robson Mendonça http://www.myweboncreate.com http://www.robsonmendonca.com Desenvolvedor Tecnológico LEC - Laboratório de Estudos Cognitivos - UFRGS Centro de Excelência Sun

[Server-devel] possible browser option for the XOs

2008-04-18 Thread David Van Assche
Hi, A very talented programmer on the ubuntu team coded this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LightBrowser/ Its based on xulrunner and incredibly small, stable and fast... only uses between 15 and 20 megs of ram, vs 40 or 50 of current gecko browser... anyway, just thought I'd throw it out

Re: [Server-devel] noob needs Poodle, Moodle, Drupal mentoring

2008-04-18 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi Yama About pootle you can also join #olpc-pootle in freenode. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Yama, DIY instructions: - install a basic Ubuntu linux machine - install moodle and drupal via the packaging system - apt-get install moodle

Re: [Server-devel] AP association, and mesh behaviour

2008-04-18 Thread John Watlington
This problem is believed to be the same as #5459. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5459 On Apr 16, 2008, at 10:23 AM, sulochan acharya wrote: Do you know whether it's just a UI thing, or does it mean that the antenna is still scanning? How can we tell if it is? (and is the scannign costly