Re: Making speech-dispatcher python API support asynchronous socket communication (long)

2008-06-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Hynek, this summarizes pretty well my understanding of the issue. Indeed, OLPC is in the process of updating from F-7 to F-9, and in the later, python ships with a patch that addresses this issue. Not sure about pygobject2 and pygtk2, though. So Hemant, perhaps you would like to try an

Re: Making speech-dispatcher python API support asynchronous socket communication (long)

2008-06-23 Thread Hemant Goyal
Hi all, Great thanks all for the feedback and detailed discussions about this problem. I'll wait before modifying the API for a while in such a scenario. @Tomeu : Okay thanks, I'll get back to you once I try what you've told. Best, Hemant On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL

How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-23 Thread shivaprasad javali
Hi, I have a usb device to be used with my application which does not have any unique serial no. I noticed that when I connect two such devices to the XO , In the /proc/bus/usb/devices file the Bus for the two remains the same but the port no is different for the two. When I connect the

Re: [Techteam] Making updating easier and Planning for Support

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Kim - On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly, I am proposing that our Support team can only support one major release along with the current one. With school systems being run on yearly basis, this would suggest that we plan for 2 major releases per

Re: [Techteam] [sugar] Making updating easier and Planning for Support

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:29 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two releases per year make sense. Particularly when add in the fact that we have two hemispheres with opposing springs and falls. Only if you assume we can get countries in lockstep with us. Any number of things can

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-23 Thread shivaprasad javali
I was trying to use the port no to which the usb device is connected to differentiate between two usb devices of the same type connected in my application. For that I wanted the variant field between the two usb devices so that I can uniquely identify them. P.S: The output of lshal -m wasnt of

Re: [Techteam] [sugar] Making updating easier and Planning for Support

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Kim stated earlier, in the end this becomes a cost of effort issue. From a developer point of view the more releases the better. From a support perspective maintaining several long releases can quickly suck the energy

Re: Is my NAND dead?

2008-06-23 Thread Richard A. Smith
Dov Grobgeld wrote: RESTORE Page Fault Ok Page Fault? What happened? OpenFirmware error. Rerunning the command gives about the same result. So has my OLPC turned into a brick? Is there any point in trying to reinstall the OS? Do you care about your data on the nand? If so then get

Re: [Techteam] Adding a Next release milestone in trac

2008-06-23 Thread Erik Garrison
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 03:38:25AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sense. Wonder why Michael has been using the rel- prefix? I attached the 'rel-'

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-23 Thread Jim Gettys
While in theory, USB devices can/should send serial numbers, that part of the spec is honored mostly by it's absence (due to cost). As John said, unfortunately, with USB you have to go down to the device and see if they have something usable to distinguish devices. - Jim On

update1 vs olpc3 disttag differences

2008-06-23 Thread Daniel Drake
Using the following quick concoption... -- #!/bin/bash listpkgs() { while read line; do stream=${line##*.} if [[ ${stream:0:2} == fc ]]; then stream=${stream:0:2} elif [[ ${stream:0:4} == olpc ]]; then

Re: [Techteam] Adding a Next release milestone in trac

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What other kinds of tags including release numbers do you have in mind? Build numbers, perhaps. But I am more concerned about the fact that our trac install tracks several projects/subprojects. So I'd propose xo-8.2.1 or

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-23 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 23.06.2008 20:29, Jim Gettys wrote: While in theory, USB devices can/should send serial numbers, that part of the spec is honored mostly by it's absence (due to cost). As John said, unfortunately, with USB you have to go down to the device and see if they have something usable to

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-23 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23.06.2008 20:29, Jim Gettys wrote: While in theory, USB devices can/should send serial numbers, that part of the spec is honored mostly by it's absence (due to cost). As John said, unfortunately, with USB you

New faster build 2063

2008-06-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2063 Changes in build 2063 from build: 2055 Size delta: 0.00M -squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc3 +squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc4 --- Changes for squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc4 from 3.10-3olpc3 --- + Pango fixes, remove debug output + fix X11 drag-and-drop

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-23 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Frank Ch. Eigler wrote on Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:57:52 -0400 On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 02:50:59PM -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: Plus it requires them (and users) to run the tools embedded into the possibly suspect image in order to describe itself. Do you see how there could be a trust problem

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-23 Thread Jim Gettys
My point is somewhat different: the only way out of the compilation trust trap is another compiler. Unless someone has done this for gcc, it has the identical problem, and there are many possible upstream attacks. I see no reason (probably less) to trust the chain of trust for gcc than I do

olpc-dm, olpc-utils, olpc-session, rainbow etc

2008-06-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, there is now a sugar desktop profile in Debian Edu, it doesnt really work yet, but its there :) (Debian Edu modifies the debian installer so that you can choose between 4 (or 6, in expert mode) profiles which install specific sets of packages and apply certain preconfigurations.) And

Re: olpc-dm, olpc-utils, olpc-session, rainbow etc

2008-06-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/6/23 Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, there is now a sugar desktop profile in Debian Edu, it doesnt really work yet, but its there :) (Debian Edu modifies the debian installer so that you can choose between 4 (or 6, in expert mode) profiles which install specific sets of packages

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Kay
Exactly! Jim sees the real problem. We are dealing with stories here, not with any kind of reality. Cheers, Alan - Original Message From: Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jecel Assumpcao Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: its. an. education. project [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OLPC Devel

Re: olpc-dm, olpc-utils, olpc-session, rainbow etc

2008-06-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Marco, On Monday 23 June 2008 21:39, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Do you actually want to use a specific dm for Sugar? If you are supporting multiple desktops at the same time you would better off just using gdm. For that specific profile, I just want to support the sugar desktop :)

Re: Strange 755 mode on .sugar/default/owner.key

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
Actually - can anyone confirm that their owner.key (~/.sugar/default/owner.key) is mode 600 or 400? As per my earlier email (below), I keep finding boxes with the wrong filemode... cheers, m On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent a bit of time

Survey request: Survey on contributor's activities in OS/FS projects (Free University of Berlin)

2008-06-23 Thread FLOSS Survey - Free University Berlin, Institute of CS
Dear OLPC community member, in cooperation with the software engineering research group at Free University of Berlin (Freie Universität Berlin), we are currently conducting an empirical survey on time consumption of participants in Open Source/Free Software projects. In this survey we want to

restoring ov7670/cafe_ccic to previous state

2008-06-23 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, As you may have heard, olpc3 builds occasionally hang on boot during cafe_ccic/ov7670 initialization. Erik and myself tracked down the problem to this upstream commit, which has never been shipped in an olpc stream before olpc3:

Project name : olpc-getone-activities is set up

2008-06-23 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Sun Jun 22 20:51:53 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Project name : olpc-getone-activities Done. Your tree is here: git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/olpc-getone-utils Please follow instructions here for importing your project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Importing_your_project Let us

Re: restoring ov7670/cafe_ccic to previous state

2008-06-23 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jun 23 2008, at 17:58, Daniel Drake was caught saying: Hi, As you may have heard, olpc3 builds occasionally hang on boot during cafe_ccic/ov7670 initialization. Erik and myself tracked down the problem to this upstream commit, which has never been shipped in an olpc stream before

Re: restoring ov7670/cafe_ccic to previous state

2008-06-23 Thread Jim Gettys
Note that the blood sprinkling and goat entrails talking to the camera chip makes CAFE look good... We had to go to omnivision N times to get new incantations of register read/writes during the development of the driver. - Jim On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:24 -0700, Deepak

Re: olpc-dm ck-connector patch

2008-06-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
It looks like xinit in Fedora is supposed to support ConsoleKit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233183 Not sure why this would not be working... Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

[RFC] Unscheduled Software Release for SD Card Corruption Workaround

2008-06-23 Thread Deepak Saxena
Hi, I've spent some time debugging trac #6532: SD corruption on suspend resume and propose that we provide some sort of update with a proposed workaround as this is an issue that has been seen by multiple G1G1 users. Doing a full USR may be overkill for this issue as we may just be able to

[RFC] Unscheduled Software Release for SD Card Corruption Workaround

2008-06-23 Thread Deepak Saxena
[Resend to proper sw-eco address] Hi, I've spent some time debugging trac #6532: SD corruption on suspend resume and propose that we provide some sort of update with a proposed workaround as this is an issue that has been seen by multiple G1G1 users. Doing a full USR may be overkill for this

Re: olpc-dm, olpc-utils, olpc-session, rainbow etc

2008-06-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 09:35:02PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, there is now a sugar desktop profile in Debian Edu, it doesnt really work yet, but its there :) (Debian Edu modifies the debian installer so that you can choose between 4 (or 6, in expert mode) profiles which

Re: Strange 755 mode on .sugar/default/owner.key

2008-06-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 04:32:24PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: Actually - can anyone confirm that their owner.key (~/.sugar/default/owner.key) is mode 600 or 400? As per my earlier email (below), I keep finding boxes with the wrong filemode... Best examine olpc-configure; it regularly

Re: olpc-dm ck-connector patch

2008-06-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On my stock Fedora 9, XDG_SESSION_COOKIE is set correctly when running startx... Marco On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like xinit in Fedora is supposed to support ConsoleKit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233183 Not sure

Re: Making speech-dispatcher python API support asynchronous socket communication

2008-06-23 Thread Hynek Hanke
When the handshaking is taking place the gtk mainloop has not yet started and hence we cannot rely on the event generated by gobject to read data off the socket. And if this handshaking does not take place the API implementation blocks the entire process thus leading to a deadlock. Now I

Re: [Techteam] [sugar] Making updating easier and Planning for Support

2008-06-23 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 10:36 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:29 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two releases per year make sense. Particularly when add in the fact that we have two hemispheres with opposing springs and falls. Only if you assume we can

Re: #7296 NORM Never A: Language=Papiamento Country=Netherlands Antilles(Curacao, Aruba, Bonaire)

2008-06-23 Thread Urso Wieske
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Re: olpc-dm ck-connector patch

2008-06-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Same on latest Update.1 image I have no way to test olpc-3 tonight but I assume XDG_SESSION_COOKIE is not set there, since that's where all of this started :) Marco On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my stock Fedora 9, XDG_SESSION_COOKIE is set

Lot of PO files :-)

2008-06-23 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello everyone, I just finished committing and pushing in a large number of newly added PO files for a number of activities translated via Pootle. Please pull to get the latest files, and if something breaks (hopefully it shouldn't, let me know). Also, you might need to update your MANIFEST files

Re: olpc-dm ck-connector patch

2008-06-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Ok, so I have a theory which I *hope* explains the whole thing. In Fedora 7 xinit had ConsoleKit support implemented as a patch: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/xorg-x11-xinit/F-7/xinit-1.0.2-2-poke-ck.patch?rev=1.1view=log This worked fine for us. In Fedora 9, ConsoleKit support is

Re: Is my NAND dead?

2008-06-23 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Thanks. I did a copy-nand and the system is up again, but it still doesn't explain why the system wouldn't boot. Is there any way of debugging that? I'll use the save-nand as a backup mechanism once I have got all the activities installed. This sounds like a good way of creating images and

Re: [Server-devel] Ultra Mobile XO Server

2008-06-23 Thread s . boutayeb
Hi John, Thank you for your comments. The helped me to formalize further the analyse of the usage cases and the options to be considered. Glad to see that there is a need for this experiment. We want to offer an option in the deployments where the energy and the cost are impeding factors for the

Re: [Server-devel] Ultra Mobile XO Server

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could have 2 options: a/ a dedicated XO based XS server, to be used during classtime, serving eventually a few ( 40-50) XOs, for example in a class) as well as the teachers monitoring XO. Hi Samy! Excellent project! I think this

Re: [Server-devel] Target price and quantitiy

2008-06-23 Thread Christopher Niemöller
Well, I got some more questions... Whats the typical power source for the server? 12V DC or 24V DC or 110V AC or 230V AC? What are the other conditions like temperature and humidity? Would it be enough if the server is capable of operating between 0°-55°C and 0-90% humidity? Which outlets are

Re: [Server-devel] Ultra Mobile XO Server

2008-06-23 Thread s . boutayeb
Hi Martin, Thank you for your useful comments! On the software side, we will certainly integrate in this project important components such as the Moodle server, thus allowing the teachers/administrators to monitor and manage the whole class easier. Best regards Samy Selon Martin Langhoff

Re: [Server-devel] Ultra Mobile XO Server

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using the mesh? Wiki and experience say the mesh cannot handle 40 XOs, probably 15 is tops. We have here in France 'nil' experience and we will value your input and comments concerning the feasibility and scaleability of each

[Server-devel] Target price and quantitiy

2008-06-23 Thread Tony Pearson
From: Christopher Niem?ller I was playing around with some embedded computing and rugged hardware and got some questions. Whats the target price for the school server? How many school server are needed anyway? Whats the typical power source for the server? 12V DC or 24V DC or 110V AC or

Re: [Server-devel] Target price and quantitiy

2008-06-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Christopher Niemöller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats the typical power source for the server? 12V DC or 24V DC or 110V AC or 230V AC? All of them - some locations will have 110VAC/230VAC but some regions have no power grid. In all cases, power is prone to

[Server-devel] list

2008-06-23 Thread Henry Vélez
hi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Henry Vélez Molina Administrador de red OLPC Fundación Marina Orth Tel: (57)(4) 3412359 Móvil: 3127690169 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel

Re: [Server-devel] XS SW

2008-06-23 Thread Tim Moody
Got throught the moodle + postgre install. I'll now play with setting up some courses and users. I cheated on the authentication as I don't know how PAM SOTP works; I just set the authentication to trusted. - Original Message - From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Moody