Erik wrote:
We should move away from using olpc-update to upgrade systems.
Am having a hard time understanding the problem Erik is addressing.
I do *not* consider the effort that has gone into olpc-update to be
wasted effort.
I think decent 'one-click-installs' are wonderful when they work,
Hi Sayamindu,
I am working on Google Summer of Code project Listen and Spell (
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Listen_and_Spell) uner the mentorship of Dafydd
Harries. The is like a word game in which computer speaks the word using
speech synthesis and user has to spell is correctly. For this I needed
Here in nepal, here are the key features we need listed in order of
priority:
1) Be able to remove activities to free up space, including activities
that come pre-installed. For example, our current E-Paath activities
already use up 105 MB and that only covers 1 month of coursework! We
intend to
P.S. I thought of a different way to possibly resolve this.
It occurs to me that this discussion and differences of opinion could really be
about how executables are made. One of the main issues cited has to do with
security, and a notion that being able to see the sources will help.
The
Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
You'd be all set if you had Smalltalk source code that you
could feed into any random Smalltalk system to create
your build tools.
While I happen to like C, and it's a very popular way to
achieve the required ability to bootstrap, it isn't
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 27.06.2008 um 20:50 schrieb Erik Garrison:
We already have yum installed on the XO.
Only in the devel builds. You might never have wondered what the
devel_ prefix means in
c. scott ananian wrote:
The current list of OLPC_DEVEL_PACKAGES at:
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/pilgrim;a=blob;f=streams.d/olpc-develop
ment.stream;hb=joyride#l169
includes:
rpm
yum
yum-metadata-parser
openssh-server
wget
xterm
which
file
tree
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erik wrote:
* If it's more than a dozen users (e.g., one school), then I
believe a mechanism like 'customization' key should be used.
It would be an administrator/technician who prepares the
portable
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
which is redundant with type -a in the shell (or type -ap if you're
being picky).
But is 'which' large enough to merit the effort?
when/how would lrzsz be useful?
Many folks using Windows as their primary home OS find themselves
c. scott ananian wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
which is redundant with type -a in the shell (or type -ap if you're
being picky).
But is 'which' large enough to merit the effort?
probably not. i was mainly being pedantic. :-)
when/how
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We chose a monolithic update solution because of several deficiencies,
*for our primary use case*, of all package-based upgrade solutions with
which we were familiar at the time. Package-based update solutions with
which
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's say we dist-upgrade our system. It's in an unbootable state.
In our current situation we attempt to avoid:
* can leave the system in an inconsistent or even unbootable
state on failure.
... by holding around
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We chose a monolithic update solution because of several deficiencies,
*for our primary use case*, of all package-based upgrade solutions with
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a deficiency of package managers which, if solved by us and
I don't think it's trivial to. We are already doing too much to
reinvent unix/linux and that takes from our effort to provide an
education platform.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All reasonable, and the snapshot based approach has certain key
advantages for some uses. There is one thing that really bothers me,
however, and makes me suspect that we cannot actually use the snapshot
approach long
Hi.
I was going through the instruction on the Wiki regarding setup of qemu
on Linux:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Quick_Start/Linux
But once I select a boot entry (such as 'OLPC for qemu target (Full
size)') it fails to load the kernel with the message:
This kernel
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All reasonable, and the snapshot based approach has certain key
advantages for some uses. There is one thing that really bothers me,
however,
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:09:58PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
Yes, exactly: olpc-update has been designed so that the need for those
scripts is *zero*. You get a clean install every time, guaranteed.
Care to explain the existence and functioning of olpc-configure?
Michael
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:31:36AM -0400, Edgar Ceballos wrote:
Michael:
The instructions on the Wiki are not very clear. I want to be able to
accomplish two things with the 230 laptops for the Marina Orth school:
1- Upgrade image from 623 to 703
2- Install all the extra
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 04:21 -0700, Alan Kay wrote:
It was realized that most computing of the 50s and 60s was rather like
synthetic chemistry in which structures are built atom by atom and
molecule by molecule. This gets more and more difficult for larger and
more complex combinations. Life
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:09:58PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
Yes, exactly: olpc-update has been designed so that the need for those
scripts is *zero*. You get a clean install every time, guaranteed.
Care to explain
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 02:19:09PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Care to explain the existence and functioning of olpc-configure?
olpc-configure exists because /home/olpc is not managed by
olpc-update, and to do things
Continuing with the biological analogy, the folks who want to be able to
bootstrap a Squeak/etoys image (starting from 'scratch' without such an image)
want literally to be able to make ontogeny recapitulate phylogeny -- not
necessarily every time an image starts, possibly not necessarily
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 02:19:09PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Care to explain the existence and functioning of olpc-configure?
olpc-configure
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I posted a first pass Release Process Overview.
See: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home
I'd added a number of comments to that page.
Major points: I recommend adopting Fedora's freeze definitions, I
propose a
On Saturday 28 Jun 2008 4:51:47 pm Alan Kay wrote:
It was realized that most computing of the 50s and 60s was rather like
...
state in which they will become part of the ecology.
I propose that this overview be included as part of Squeak. Squeak is very
different from conventional programming
Michael, thanks for your responses.
Michael wrote:
Noted. Can you or Bernie supply a patch which accomplishes the desired
behavior? If someone can come up with a halfway decent patch, I'm more
than happy to try to see that this gets resolved.
I will have to ask Bernie for help w/ this. It is
Moodle's integrated wiki is great, easy to set up and easy to use. I've used
this with teachers and students without anyone having problems understanding
how it works. Search functionality is also integrated from the start. The
only thing is it is of course integrated in the Moodle package itself,
2008/6/28 David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Moodle's integrated wiki is great, easy to set up and easy to use.
Yes, and it's getting a major upgrade to a new codebase (known as nwiki).
WRT offline moodle, I did part of the architecture and very small part
of the programming of OUs offline
In a recent thread Martin L mentioned the possibility of looking at
platforms for XS that run headless. That got me thinking about soekris
boards. Although usually targeted towards routers, soekris boards are
quite well tested in the field under extreme conditions. I've used
Soekris for Wi-Fi
Well,
thats basically the same hardware as the XO.
best regards,
Christopher
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a recent thread Martin L mentioned the possibility of looking at
platforms for XS that run headless. That got me thinking about soekris
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