Re: SMS messaging

2008-07-24 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008 à 12:38 -0400, Ankur Verma a écrit : I can run a bash/python script upon the reception of the message with the message parameters. This makes it flexible enough to call any application. Then I think you should write a Python application which connect to the

Re: SMS messaging

2008-07-24 Thread Ankur Verma
As per our earlier discussion, the method at present is to use roster.py, which you are planning to remove in the next versions. As roster.py also uses Telepathy to get the nicks of XO who have subscribed or are friends, are there any alternative functions which I can use to fetch the list of

Re: QUERY REGARDING INTERFACING OF TOOLBAR

2008-07-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, where is the xocom source repository? I know nothing about xocom, but I recommend you to code a simple python-only activity first to familiarize with that part of the problem, and only then coming back to the SocialCalc Activity. Take a look to this activity:

Re: SMS messaging

2008-07-24 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le jeudi 24 juillet 2008 à 03:36 -0400, Ankur Verma a écrit : As per our earlier discussion, the method at present is to use roster.py, which you are planning to remove in the next versions. Humm not really. Using the roster is and will always be a sane way to find contacts. But, as you can

Re: QUERY REGARDING INTERFACING OF TOOLBAR

2008-07-24 Thread Preeti KS
Thanks for the quick response..The xocom is at http://github.com/lukec/xocom/tree/master I will definitely go through the codes you have sent. After studying that, I will try to get back to SocialCalc again.. Regards Preeti On 7/24/08, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, where is the

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-07-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 06:27:59PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: 2) Sugar would run more smoothly on-XO if jhbuild were retired. I think this is a good point in the abstract. Do any frequent contributors *not* have an XO? I approve of retiring jhbuild, and handing out XO's to Sugar

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-07-24 Thread Walter Bender
I don't think anyone would argue that we need better tools for software development on the XO. There has been a latent Develop activity in the works that occasionally gets a boost from the community (want to jump in?). I would argue that a bigger stumbling block than problems with Sugar and

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-07-24 Thread Walter Bender
instead of just turtle programs and gooey smalltalk... Cannot let this one slip by uncommented on. Etoys is one place where kids are doing real programming, as a means of achieving fluency about many powerful ideas, not just syntax. But I unaware that children have made contributions to Squeak

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-07-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 06:27:59PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: [some interesting points] Sorry my meta-comments snuck in - they aren't relevant, and I didn't follow my own advice...I retract them (I'm sure you can tell what parts they were). = Do any frequent contributors have ONLY an XO? =

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-24 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Deepak Saxena wrote: On Jul 23 2008, at 22:30, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: Booting starts, but mounting /dev/sda1 on /sysroot fails because the usbcore.ko module needed by usb-storage.ko cannot be found. Our initramfs is missing usbcore and hcd-ehci. I've uploaded a

Feedback from deployment lead

2008-07-24 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I got some good feedback this week on priorities from Carla who has led several of our early installations. Its posted at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Unadorned_and_unedited_user_feedback I probed for more detail on: Guarantee that everything they work on is saved –and/or backed up–

New joyride build 2204

2008-07-24 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2204 Changes in build 2204 from build: 2203 Size delta: 0.00M -hulahop 0.4.1-3.olpc3 +hulahop 0.4.2-1.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-24 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jul 24 2008, at 09:37, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: I did *not* copy it to /versions/boot/current/boot, since it never completed the boot from the USB stick. I copied your modified ramdisk to /boot on the USB disk, renamed it to olpcrd-2.6.25-deepak-fix.img and changed the

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-24 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jul 24 2008, at 08:07, Deepak Saxena was caught saying: On Jul 24 2008, at 09:37, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: I did *not* copy it to /versions/boot/current/boot, since it never completed the boot from the USB stick. I copied your modified ramdisk to /boot on the USB disk,

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-24 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Deepak Saxena wrote: On Jul 24 2008, at 08:07, Deepak Saxena was caught saying: On Jul 24 2008, at 09:37, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: I did *not* copy it to /versions/boot/current/boot, since it never completed the boot from the USB stick. I copied your modified ramdisk

Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
(Foreword: I originally intended to send this e-mail after the release of 8.2.0, but I have been convinced to send it earlier in order to prompt discussion) Dear OLPC developers, Congratulations on your work so far towards 8.2.0, with its new UI, new underpinnings, and thousands of individual

Calling all small keyboards

2008-07-24 Thread John Watlington
We are looking for examples of keyboards for small children present before 1993. Specifically, we are looking for keyboards whose key-key spacing is between 10.8 and 16.4 mm horizontally, and 10.8 to 18.0 mm vertically, and with a stroke distance of 0.9 to 6mm. Thanks for your memories, wad

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-24 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Deepak Saxena wrote: On Jul 24 2008, at 14:06, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: Tried your updated ramdisk, still no boot. No more missing modules, but the mount still fails in the same way. USB Mass Storage support is now properly loaded. Here is an excerpt from the boot screen:

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I'm not familiar with the details of the Rainbow implementation, but I question this claim: Sugar, as it currently stands, is among the least secure operating systems ever, far less secure than any modern Linux or Windows OS. I can easily write an Activity that, when run by the user,

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikus Grinbergs wrote: | I'm not familiar with the details of the Rainbow implementation, but | I question this claim: | | Sugar, as it currently stands, is among the least secure operating systems | ever, far less secure than any modern Linux or

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.07.2008 um 14:25 schrieb Benjamin M. Schwartz: 1. The datastore 2. OS Updates 3. File Sharing 4. Activity Modification 5. Bitfrost 6. Power management Note that half of these items have nothing to do with Sugar, oo the subject line is a bit misleading. - Bert -

New joyride build 2206

2008-07-24 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2206 Changes in build 2206 from build: 2204 Size delta: 0.13M -initscripts 8.76.2-1.olpc3.6 +initscripts 8.76.2-1.olpc3.7 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bert Freudenberg wrote: | Am 24.07.2008 um 14:25 schrieb Benjamin M. Schwartz: | | 1. The datastore | 2. OS Updates | 3. File Sharing | 4. Activity Modification | 5. Bitfrost | 6. Power management | | Note that half of these items have nothing to do

Re: olpcgames SVGSprite bug + fix

2008-07-24 Thread Brian Jordan
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/7/22 Alex Levenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I've been using olpcgames for some physics + puzzle games I'm writing. I just started using the SVGSprite class but I kept on getting an error when using it. I realized that in the SVGSprite class a module named 'svg' is

[RFC] Four solutions to NAND fillup

2008-07-24 Thread Erik Garrison
OLPC Developers, Greg asked me to write a report of the solutions to the NAND fillup problem. We need to present a set of solutions to LATU as soon as possible so that they can establish what solution(s) are tenable for their deployment. Several provisional solutions are in the works. I

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Kimberley Quirk
Ben, I think many people will agree with much of what you have identified in your rant; and we have been working on making the most progress we can given the constraints of the 'real' world: 1 - 350,000 laptops in the hands of kids today. This alone takes most of the resources away from

From way out in right field Re: [sugar] Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Joel Rees
On 平成 20/07/25, at 6:53, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bert Freudenberg wrote: | Am 24.07.2008 um 14:25 schrieb Benjamin M. Schwartz: | | 1. The datastore | 2. OS Updates | 3. File Sharing | 4. Activity Modification | 5. Bitfrost | 6. Power

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kimberley Quirk wrote: | I think many people will agree with much of what you have identified | in your rant; and we have been working on making the most progress we | can given the constraints of the 'real' world: Kim: Though I was obviously trying

New joyride build 2207

2008-07-24 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2207 Changes in build 2207 from build: 2206 Size delta: -1.31M -gdb 6.8-11.fc9 +gdb 6.8-12.fc9 -kernel 2.6.25-20080722.2.olpc.d86980aeb8d0adb +kernel 2.6.25-20080724.1.olpc.284cecf34b83fb0 -ntp-ntpdate 4.2.4p4-1.olpc3 +ntp-ntpdate

joyride keyboard problems GL/glx

2008-07-24 Thread Daniel Drake
Just a quick FYI: the keyboard bugs in recent joyrides (various buttons not working or misbehaving) is fixed by the X server update in joyride 2207. The problem was that a Fedora 9 update included an updated evdev driver, which had been compiled against a newer X server (we have forked

Re: joyride keyboard problems GL/glx

2008-07-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.07.2008 um 21:44 schrieb Daniel Drake: The software GL is very slow but word on the street is that some activities use it anyway. Until very recently we did not even ship libGL so no activity relying on it would even load. - Bert - ___

Re: Calling all small keyboards

2008-07-24 Thread Steve Holton
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking for examples of keyboards for small children present before 1993. Specifically, we are looking for keyboards whose key-key spacing is between 10.8 and 16.4 mm horizontally, and 10.8 to 18.0 mm

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list of missing features needed to make Sugar a first-rate system is really surprisingly short. Fantastic news! As Kim points out, we knew most (all?) those things already, and we are just extremely short on

New joyride build 2208

2008-07-24 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2208 Changes in build 2208 from build: 2207 Size delta: 0.00M -ohm 0.1.1-6.14.20080707git.olpc3 +ohm 0.1.1-6.15.20080707git.olpc3 -rainbow 0.7.16-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.17-1.fc9 --- Changes for ohm 0.1.1-6.15.20080707git.olpc3 from

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: really surprisingly short. Each item on the list has been debated to a stationary point over the last two years, so all that is left is to make a final decision for the engineers to execute. Each task could be