Calling all small keyboards

2008-07-28 Thread Steve Cotton
I don't have one to measure, but the 1991 Psion series 3 has 13.5 keys per row on a 165mm-wide keyboard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion_3 Maltron's designs are a long way from simply being scaled Qwerty keyboards, but they've been around since the late 1970s. They might be helpful as an

Re: running speech-dispatcher as non-root using setuid on XO and accompanying security issues

2008-07-28 Thread Hynek Hanke
Jan Buchal napsal(a): HG Hi, What is the need for speech-dispatcher to run as root? Is it HG possible to run it as non-root? We need to modify the HG speechd.conf files from a non-root program and as such run the HG speech-dispatcher daemon with non-root privileges. Sure. SD

Re: [Sur] Imagen de Inicio. Boot

2008-07-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Henry is asking about localised images for the XO, and specifically asking about a branded boot image (splash image). 2008/7/28 Henry Vélez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Les pregunto. ¿como puedo poner una imagen personalizada en el inicio de la laptop? Que cambios quieres hacer? Solo el splash? Parte

Re: Evil code-sharing hacks?

2008-07-28 Thread Erik Garrison
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:59:37AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Here is a fun and amusing easy weekend project for an enterprising activity author: Implement a code sharing demo as follows: 1. stub out a collaborative RemoteControl activity (perhaps based on Chat, Xavier, or

how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Hello everyone, I need to get a screenshot of an activity and I am wondering what is the best way: 1. using sugar-jhbuild on fedora: the only problem here is that the widgets have all wrong sizes (how to fix this?) 2. using the XO: I have no idea how to print the screen. Thanks! Victor

Re: how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Eben Eliason
Alt-1 will capture a screenshot within Sugar; the resulting image will appear in the Journal. - Eben On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I need to get a screenshot of an activity and I am wondering what is the best way: 1. using

Re: how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 17:03, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I need to get a screenshot of an activity and I am wondering what is the best way: 1. using sugar-jhbuild on fedora: the only problem here is that the widgets have all wrong sizes (how to fix this?)

Project name :Language Learning with Larry is set up

2008-07-28 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:41:12 -0500, Meli Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Project name : Language Learning with Larry Done. Your tree is here: git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/larry Please follow instructions here for importing your project:

Re: how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 17:03, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I need to get a screenshot of an activity and I am wondering what is the best way: 1. using sugar-jhbuild on fedora: the

Re: how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Bastien
Hello Victor, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to get a screenshot of an activity and I am wondering what is the best way: 1. using sugar-jhbuild on fedora: the only problem here is that the widgets have all wrong sizes (how to fix this?) Don't know... 2. using the XO:

Re: how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Thanks everyone, I got the screenshot I needed using method 2. Victor At 16:12 28/07/2008, Bastien wrote: Hello Victor, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to get a screenshot of an activity and I am wondering what is the best way: 1. using sugar-jhbuild on fedora: the

Re: how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Brian Jordan
DSD -- This reminds me... your script for having screenshots automatically scp'd to a remote server when they are taken is really cool/useful. Is this available online yet? Brian On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone, I got the screenshot

Re: how to get a screenshot

2008-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:44 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: DSD -- This reminds me... your script for having screenshots automatically scp'd to a remote server when they are taken is really cool/useful. Is this available online yet? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar/Quick_screenshot_hack

Power management testing, which build

2008-07-28 Thread András Soltész
Hi All, I would like to do some power management testing on my G1G1 unit. I heard that there is now a way to completely power down the radio from the GUI or the command line without restarting the machine. Is this correct? I have 703 on my machine but that OS version seems nothing special in

Spare Screens

2008-07-28 Thread Chris Barrett
I realize this is the Devel list but since this list was so helpful when I had sound problems, I was wondering if anyone reading this could point me in the direction of acquiring a new screen for one of my G1G1 XOs. The old one's ribbon cable has stripped and now is unserviceable, naturally this

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-28 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jul 26 2008, at 21:44, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: Deepak Saxena wrote: Sigh++ Bought a 1G microSD with a usb adapter and it happens to be one that OpenFirmware cannot talk to so I can't boot off it. Just wanted to give you an update that this is still on my plate, just seems to be

Re: Spare Screens

2008-07-28 Thread Ian Daniher
Hi Chris, Sorry to hear of your predicament. There are a number of repair centers that have sprung up around the US. ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Directory_of_repair_centers) All of them have screens available, but the OLPC-recommended price point is seventy dollars. Try contacting some repair

Re: [Sur] Imagen de Inicio. Boot

2008-07-28 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hola On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Henry is asking about localised images for the XO, and specifically asking about a branded boot image (splash image). 2008/7/28 Henry Vélez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Les pregunto. ¿como puedo poner una imagen

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-28 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Deepak Saxena wrote: On Jul 26 2008, at 21:44, Ton van Overbeek was caught saying: Deepak Saxena wrote: Sigh++ Bought a 1G microSD with a usb adapter and it happens to be one that OpenFirmware cannot talk to so I can't boot off it. Just wanted to give you an update that this is

New joyride build 2222

2008-07-28 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build Changes in build from build: 2216 Size delta: 3.01M -sugar-evince-python 2.20.1.1-2.olpc3 +sugar-evince-python 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 -olpcsound 5.08.92-2.olpc3 +olpcsound 5.08.92-3.olpc3 -pygame 1.7.1-17.fc9 +pygame 1.8.0-1.olpc3.1

Re: Power management testing, which build

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
Please help test joyride-2200. We'll announce a new weekly joyride on Wednesday afternoon on this list. Thanks, Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-28 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Build Announcer v2 wrote: | -python-numeric 24.2-11.fc9 Thanks to Daniel and Scott for their work getting rid of this dependency. Anyone whose activities use Numerical arrays in Python should check that they still work in +. If anything is

Read Etexts problems with speech-dispatcher resolved -- mostly

2008-07-28 Thread James Simmons
I have just updated the Read Etexts activity to version 6. This solves the problems I was having with pausing and resuming speech in the activity. The activity no longer hangs when you do this. Highlighting still doesn't work perfectly; it tends to fall behind and catch up. This is an

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-28 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build Changes in build from build: 2216 Size delta: 3.01M -sugar-evince-python 2.20.1.1-2.olpc3 +sugar-evince-python 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 -olpcsound 5.08.92-2.olpc3 +olpcsound 5.08.92-3.olpc3 -pygame

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:47 -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: Why is cracklib (and pam 1.0.1-4.fc9) back? It was removed in joyride-2200. Just curious ... See the discussion about PAM last week on this list. We decided not to fork but instead just to replace big dictionaries with small/empty

Please test pygame activities with joyride-2222

2008-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
We included a pygame update in this build to drop the dependency on Numeric. It now uses numpy. Testing reports from pygame-based activities appreciated. I already tested Maze. Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

RE: Spare Screens

2008-07-28 Thread Joshua Seal
Chris, I can't vouch for the company as I have never ordered anything from them, but http://xoexplosion.com http://xoexplosion.com/ sell screens for $70 in their spare parts section. They seem to be out of stock at the moment though. Kind regards, Josh _ From: [EMAIL

Re: Fwd: Software ECO - OFW q2d17, per703-7, en708-2

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:46:18PM -0400, Joseph A. Feinstein wrote: Kim, On the laptop where I installed Joyride 2200, I have OFW Q2D16. At this time it's not known whether it came with the build or it's a leftover from a previous (build 708) installation. Michael Stone will

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
The size increase suggests that maybe my pilgrim hack to zap the big dictionaries did not work. I'll look later... Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB. mikus ___ Devel mailing list

Project name : SimpleRPG is set up

2008-07-28 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Tue, 06 May 2008 16:39:01 -0400, Mel Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Project name : SimpleRPG Done. Your tree is here: git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/simplerpg Please follow instructions here for importing your project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Importing_your_project Let us know

New joyride build 2223

2008-07-28 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2223 Changes in build 2223 from build: Size delta: 0.00M -olpcupdate 2.11-1 +olpcupdate 2.12-1 --- Changes for olpcupdate 2.12-1 from 2.11-1 --- + Support 'low' priority updates (not applied automatically). + Add '--latest'

Trac default milestone

2008-07-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Trac default milestone is currently 8.2. Is that a good idea? We are trying to punt down the Sugar 8.2 bugs, but with these default the list keep growing. I'd prefer to go through the list of unassigned bugs every few days and make 8.2 only those that really needs to be... Marco

inconsistent identification regarding full-screen sessions

2008-07-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
FYI - I am not writing a ticket at this time (until I can reproduce consistent misbehavior). G1G1. Joyride manually updated to 2216. My biggest confusion arises because I __cannot visually tell__ which icon in the Frame top bar is associated with which running task. I did not want

Re: Fwd: Software ECO - OFW q2d17, per703-7, en708-2

2008-07-28 Thread Joseph A. Feinstein
I can't confirm or deny this. After downgrading a machine to Q2D16, reinstalling the build 708 and then installing the Joyride 2200, the right firmware (Q2E11) appeared to be installed. I didn't run the test without the external power supply because I'm (almost) sure that the original

New joyride build 2224

2008-07-28 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2224 Changes in build 2224 from build: 2223 Size delta: 0.00M -kernel 2.6.25-20080724.1.olpc.284cecf34b83fb0 +kernel 2.6.25-20080728.1.olpc.a3851e734bcee1b -- This mail was automatically generated See

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Anyone whose activities use Numerical arrays in Python should check that they still work in +. If anything is broken, I'll be happy to help fix it. The only Activity I am sure needs to be checked is Measure. I can confirm that Measure does NOT work. Neither does PlayGo. mikus

Re: Trac default milestone

2008-07-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Also I'm not convinced not specified as default component is a good idea, unless we have someone taking care of triaging that component. Marco On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trac default milestone is currently 8.2. Is that a good idea? We are

specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
There was an earlier discussion of how to provide the right build level for users out in the field, since now Builds can be installed separately from Activities -- leading to the possibility that for someone an Activity_version on his XO will find itself *mismatched* with the Build_version on

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-28 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry Williams wrote: | Seems like this problem for linux was solved with RPM. | With rpm if something is missing for something you want to install, it | complains and won't let you install it. That's not really the problem we're discussing. We're

TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. Also, TuxPaint is not being checkpointed by Journal (and seems to start slower than it did on build 65x). I realize there is a

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-28 Thread Bastien
Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry Williams wrote: | Seems like this problem for linux was solved with RPM. | With rpm if something is missing for something you want to install, it | complains and won't let you install it. That's not really the problem we're discussing.

Re: Cannot boot joyride-2200 from USB stick

2008-07-28 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Ton van Overbeek wrote: Deepak Saxena wrote: USB needs sd_mod which is still built into the kernel. Issue ended up being that we need to load ohci-hcd, not ehci-scd. Working ramdisk @: http://dev.laptop.org/~dsaxena/olpcrd-2200-fixup.img ~Deepak Thanks Deepak. I am now at

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:56:47PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: But should it be up to the Activity developers (or in this case, those who first fitted the software to Sugar) to keep supporting their submission as the Sugar/operating_system platform keeps evolving ? Who else would you propose?

Packaging the activation server for the XS

2008-07-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Scott, I am exploring what it will take to package the action lease server for the XS, and what usage scenarios we can support. So I had an initial look around act-server, which covers a much wider functionality than I had in mind. If we assume for a moment that the lease management is done

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread pgf
michael wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:56:47PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: But should it be up to the Activity developers (or in this case, those who first fitted the software to Sugar) to keep supporting their submission as the Sugar/operating_system platform keeps evolving ?

New joyride build 2225

2008-07-28 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2225 Changes in build 2225 from build: 2224 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2e11-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2e12-1.olpc2.unsigned --- Changes for bootfw q2e12-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2e11-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + q2e12 this is an unsigned

Upgrade server on the XS -

2008-07-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Scott, I'm looking at the 'upgrade-server' project, considering packaging it for the XS. After a read of the sources, I see that it does extend the rsync protocol a bit, but the commands seem to not be needed for updates: server is an rsync cmd, but clean and install are not, but I don't

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-28 Thread Bobby Powers
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry Williams wrote: | Seems like this problem for linux was solved with RPM. | With rpm if something is missing for something you want to install, it | complains and won't let

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Williams wrote: | Seems like this problem for linux was solved with RPM. | With rpm if something is missing for something you want to install, it | complains and won't let you install it. That's not really

RE: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-28 Thread Jerry Williams
Seems like this problem for linux was solved with RPM. With rpm if something is missing for something you want to install, it complains and won't let you install it. It seems like a lot of the python code I have looked at assumes you have stuff and just quietly dies and you have to look at the log

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of continuing support for activities, What notion of support would you suggest? that we support the activities ourselves, As above. or that we need to provide an

[Server-devel] OLPC_XS_164 is xs-0.3-rc and my short term plans

2008-07-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi! If you are running or testing earluer versions of the XS image, I need to ask you to test this one. It will become our 0.3 unless we get new bug reports against it. I will be working the next few weeks on 1 - system level admin and tools - + PAM SOTP + Installation fixups + RSSH

[Server-devel] Packaging the activation server for the XS

2008-07-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Scott, I am exploring what it will take to package the action lease server for the XS, and what usage scenarios we can support. So I had an initial look around act-server, which covers a much wider functionality than I had in mind. If we assume for a moment that the lease management is done

Re: [Server-devel] schoolnet activities?

2008-07-28 Thread Bryan Berry
Bernie, Have we configured Browse to display the Flash activities automatically? Also, have we sugarized Firefox 3? David, you can install firefox 3 as an rpm however we haven't completed sugarizing it. Currently we are launching it from the command line. We will sugarize it as we are using