Re: [BULK] Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/10/13 Harshvardhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: true. plus a good broadband network connection, And a personal jetpack too! Now, while the personal jetpacks evolve, let's look at more realistic steps forward :-) This can work locally for all sorts of fun and educational uses. Some schools will have

Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?

2008-10-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 10/12/08, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey OLPC team. No, really, is there any chance OLPC can ship Gnash 0.8.4 with XO OS final 8.2.0? Very doubtful.. this Gnash release is several weeks too late to meet 8.2.0. We froze things quite a while ago. My suggestion would be to find

Re: VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le dimanche 12 octobre 2008 à 19:11 +1100, Pia Waugh a écrit : Hi all, We now have Videochat v9 which works. This is a great thing that will help children connect, and in particular help with remote support for children. It could assist with eHealth, remote education, speech therapy and any

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Just a couple of additions: * We should make sure to have a good summary of the actionable items produced during the meetings, post them to the larger community, gather feedback and consensus and finally add them to the SL roadmap. * It would be very beneficial to spend some time explaining SL

Re: [Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-13 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 16:24 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: Right now, revisor can build a pristine F9 installer CD but cannot build a F9 + updates installer CD. The problem appears by merely enabling the additional repo in the stock F9 config files that ship with Revisor. It has also been

Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?

2008-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 13, 2008, at 6:59 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 10/12/08, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey OLPC team. No, really, is there any chance OLPC can ship Gnash 0.8.4 with XO OS final 8.2.0? Very doubtful.. this Gnash release is several weeks too late to meet 8.2.0. We froze

enabling and disabling file compression

2008-10-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Chris and Deepak, in Ubifs, I have tried unsetting the compression xattr on files, but reads were equally slow so I guess the contents weren't actually uncompressed. Even tried dd'ing to an empty existing file without the c attribute, but the result was the same. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Re: [Server-devel] ejabberd sysconfig patch

2008-10-13 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le lundi 13 octobre 2008 à 13:44 +1300, Douglas Bagnall a écrit : This patch to Collabora's OLPC ejabberd-rpm package makes /etc/init.d/ejabberd look for (and, if possible, incorporate) /etc/sysconfig/ejabberd. Two options can be set there: - CONFIG_FILE gives an alternative to

Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?

2008-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robert Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btu end users could install them and have them work if gnash 0.8.4 was available. If end-users have to drop to a command line and do something, which I assume

Re: enabling and disabling file compression

2008-10-13 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Oct 13 2008, at 14:59, Tomeu Vizoso was caught saying: Hi Chris and Deepak, in Ubifs, I have tried unsetting the compression xattr on files, but reads were equally slow so I guess the contents weren't actually uncompressed. Even tried dd'ing to an empty existing file without the c

Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?

2008-10-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really do not get it do you!! The basic functionality should be provided by OLPC with a build of gnash optimized for the Geode. I'm glad to hear that 0.8.4 will result in a significantly better experience for XO

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-13 Thread Samuel Klein
Tomeu: Scott: I think more like: Nov 17-20: talks and hacking Nov 21: priorities meeting, wrapup. I'm not the planning committee, but this would be what I'd like to see. Works for me. Should we be concerned that talk (or aguing) might expand so much that there's little time to take

2 observations (candidate-767)

2008-10-13 Thread Chris Marshall
1) I just did a clean candidate-767 update for another G1G1-1 XO and observed that the initial attempt to share a Chat session comes up with the talk bubble followed by the invite to without Chat or Chat Activity at the end. After sharing another activity and then going back to the Chat, when I

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-13 Thread Ed McNierney
Folks - I would like to spend some time this week getting a bit more consensus on the goals and agenda for this conversation before we get too far ahead with planning and invitations. I don't want to spend the first day setting the scope and expectations for the week only to discover that some

Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?

2008-10-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 01:57:57PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really do not get it do you!! The basic functionality should be provided by OLPC with a build of gnash optimized for the Geode. I should note that I'm

Re: 2 observations (candidate-767)

2008-10-13 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:22, Chris Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) I just did a clean candidate-767 update for another G1G1-1 XO and observed that the initial attempt to share a Chat session comes up with the talk bubble followed by the invite to without Chat or Chat Activity at the

Updated UBIFS 8.2 image

2008-10-13 Thread Deepak Saxena
Hi, I have updated the UBIFS 8.2 image on d.l.o with a new kernel that includes various backports from kernel.org. One major change that is noticeable is that the free space calculation reports 921MiB free instead of 822MiB due to improved df reporting. I've also disabled debug messages and

Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Pyke Jr.,RN,CPNP wrote: | It aappears to be interestimg. But if your doing remote telehealth you need to have 30 fps for video. I think this is a misunderstanding. We are not talking about robotic remote surgery here, or anything requiring

Dev Meeting tommorow (tues) @ 11am

2008-10-13 Thread peter
Hi all, Reminder that tomorrow (tues) we will have our dev meeting at 11am. We'll be meeting in the basement conference room. -Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?

2008-10-13 Thread Rob Savoye
For the record, I consider Dan to have spoken authoritatively on this matter. As he says, the best things that you can do now are to demonstrate that the newer gnash can safely be deployed either via 'yum update', via 'olpc-update', or by providing a custom installation script Our release

Re: 2 observations (candidate-767)

2008-10-13 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
2) I then tried to install and use TuxPaint versions 1 and 2 and Squeak. I notice that except for the kernel package squeak-vm, Squeak does not seem to be present in 767. There are available a number of optional Activities programmed in squeak, but I don't have any installed currently. As

Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread Paul Heinzelmann
I think its very exciting to see telemedicne applications being developed for this platform. But I also think you need to be very careful here. There are multiple studies on resolutuion of images and utility for various telemedicine purposes. (ie Still images from a 2 megapixel camera are likely

Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread david
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Paul Heinzelmann wrote: I think its very exciting to see telemedicne applications being developed for this platform. But I also think you need to be very careful here. There are multiple studies on resolutuion of images and utility for various telemedicine purposes. (ie

Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread david
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Paul Heinzelmann wrote: I sense that there are a lot of new and yet-to-be-discovered ways to use these kind of low-bandwidth capabilities for health (including consultation, collaboration, and education). The perceived value of these will always be user-dependent and

New joyride build 2515

2008-10-13 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2515 Changes in build 2515 from build: 2514 Size delta: 0.00M -coreutils 6.10-30.fc9 +coreutils 6.10-33.fc9 -cups-libs 1:1.3.8-2.fc9 +cups-libs 1:1.3.9-1.fc9 -shared-mime-info 0.30-1.fc9 +shared-mime-info 0.30-3.fc9 -sqlite 3.5.9-1.fc9

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package stream?

2008-10-13 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 15:23 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: OLPC's XS ships a number of patched packages. The packages are normally built with a different stream or flavour (they don't say f9 but xs05) and sit in a special repository. Is there a good way to ensure revisor/yum prefers the

Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread Paul Heinzelmann
I sense that there are a lot of new and yet-to-be-discovered ways to use these kind of low-bandwidth capabilities for health (including consultation, collaboration, and education). The perceived value of these will always be user-dependent and likely require a trial and error approach. In terms

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package stream?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, James Antill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you are going to ship a repo to end users which requires/uses the yum-priority plugin (or excludes, or whatever), I am shipping a heavily preconfigured spin, the OLPC School Server. It points to the standard F9

Re: [Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-13 Thread Jerry Vonau
Martin Langhoff wrote: Right now, revisor can build a pristine F9 installer CD but cannot build a F9 + updates installer CD. The problem appears by merely enabling the additional repo in the stock F9 config files that ship with Revisor. It has also been reported elsewhere:

Re: [Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Connie Sieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I excluded glibc* from the Everything repository in the revisor-f9-i386.conf file just to get past this error. How do you do that? m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting

Re: [Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-13 Thread Connie Sieh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:23 AM, seth vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error is Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386 Is there any other debug information available? _something_ is pulling in

Re: [Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-13 Thread Connie Sieh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Connie Sieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I excluded glibc* from the Everything repository in the revisor-f9-i386.conf file just to get past this error. How do you do that? Add excludes=glibc* to

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package stream?

2008-10-13 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 15:57 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:27 PM, seth vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can use yum's priorities plugin to achieve similar results. It's a bit simpler than apt but I can sure work with this. Thanks! Just as in the apt-world

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package stream?

2008-10-13 Thread Jerry Vonau
Martin Langhoff wrote: OLPC's XS ships a number of patched packages. The packages are normally built with a different stream or flavour (they don't say f9 but xs05) and sit in a special repository. Is there a good way to ensure revisor/yum prefers the packages from the xs stream or repo

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package stream?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you not use the xs-config/xs-pkgs to state specific Requires:= to control whether an updated package is able replace what is currently installed or to be installed on the system, kind of protecting the base install?

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package stream?

2008-10-13 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:48 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, James Antill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you are going to ship a repo to end users which requires/uses the yum-priority plugin (or excludes, or whatever), I am shipping a heavily preconfigured