Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin will probably hate me for this... Oh, I won't! However implements this gets to say how it's done; good to hear you have an opinion that you're willing to back with code :-) If you can assume the existence of an XS

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Ok - I had missed the whole thread in my earlier reply. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *But*, we should be able to: * Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to school server via CUP (IPP?), and install a decent selection of

Re: [Server-devel] Backup of laptops

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have the right ownership, and the ds-backup.py on my 767 image doesn't look the same as in that trac log. I'll look into it some more. The other thing to check is that ~/.sugar/default/owner.key in the XO is mode 600 .

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Torello Querci
Il giorno lun, 20/10/2008 alle 16.55 -0700, Jim Gettys ha scritto: Actually, teachers are the other people who have asked for printing support (e.g. at Arahuay, when I visited). They don't have enough conventional systems to do their test sheets. Now on line tests may make some/most of that

Re: Browse Activity cant't download files with accents on filename

2008-10-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I searched trac and googled a little for this, so sorry if this is a known issue. This is on build 765. When I try to download an attachment that has a filename with accents Browse does nothing and I get this on

latest problems

2008-10-21 Thread elana langer
Hey there- I was at a school yesterday and it seemed like the three major problems they faced were: 1) computer freezing constantly 2) computers were missing their journal or the journal disappeared 3) slowness I have asked for more details for each problem and will get back to you. At another

Re: latest problems

2008-10-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:53 AM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey there- I was at a school yesterday and it seemed like the three major problems they faced were: 1) computer freezing constantly 2) computers were missing their journal or the journal disappeared 3) slowness I

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 10/21/08, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *But*, we should be able to: * Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to school server via CUP (IPP?), and install a decent selection of

Re: [Server-devel] help with small/first world XS deployment issues requested

2008-10-21 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 08:36, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a number of XO deployments possible in the Boston metro area sometime next spring. My understanding is that OLPC does NOT want to run these deployments, but is interested in having them happen so there are

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread pgf
c. scott ananian wrote: On 10/21/08, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *But*, we should be able to: * Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to school server via CUP (IPP?),

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're on the same page here. For 9.1, what's the *least* work we can do to get *something* done on the printing front? Fantastic! Once the basics are out there, hopefully we'll have community motivated to

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Yama Ploskonka
When I am asked about whether the XO handles printing, I present that the fact it does not is a feature, not a bug. And people understand. It is not out of the ordinary that the life of school printers will be the life of the first set of ink cartridges or toner, there being no budget to

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Jeff
Because it is defective by design does not mean that it is a feature and not a flaw. I manage 5 school-labs in deepest, darkest, rural Africa; and printing has never been much of a support issue. Sure there are issues with CUPS. Especially with printers going offline when they run out of

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop imagining that lowest-spec, cheapest hardware and crippleware is the answer - or that 3'rd World countries will never progress towards a reasonable standard. That attitude is patronizing and demeaning. And wrong. Hey -

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Gettys
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 08:57 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can's mdns/avahi help with discovery? it'd be a shame to have to manually configure a server address or name. Certainly; this is what Apple does; the HP printer I bought recently is so advertising itself this way. I haven't seen

Re: Browse Activity cant't download files with accents on filename

2008-10-21 Thread Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
Tomeu, On Mar, 21 de Octubre de 2008, 5:46 am, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I searched trac and googled a little for this, so sorry if this is a known issue. This is on build 765. When I try to download an attachment

Re: latest problems

2008-10-21 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:53:53AM -0400, elana langer wrote: Hey there- I was at a school yesterday and it seemed like the three major problems they faced were: 1) computer freezing constantly Are the freezes 'hard'? Does the whole system lock up? Or can you still move the mouse, or

Re: Browse Activity cant't download files with accents on filename

2008-10-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu, On Mar, 21 de Octubre de 2008, 5:46 am, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I searched trac and googled a little for this, so sorry if

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Jeff
On 21 Oct 2008, at 4:15 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop imagining that lowest-spec, cheapest hardware and crippleware is the answer - or that 3'rd World countries will never progress towards a reasonable standard. That

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Jeff, If you will help develop with us, you can sign up here for a free XO: http://projectdb.olpc.at/ BTW I'm a comic book fan myself. I give out Gyro Gearloose comic books whenever a kid comes by the office :-) Thanks, Greg S Jeff wrote: On 21 Oct 2008, at 4:15 PM, Martin Langhoff

LBA NAND corruption

2008-10-21 Thread John Watlington
Mitch, One of the LBA NAND test machines killed it's MBR. It started with a failed comparison of the commonly written blocks, then stopped talking to the device at all. On reboot, fdisk showed no partition table. dd of /dev/lba showed all FFs for the first 16K, then 00 for the next 2K, then

Re: LBA NAND corruption

2008-10-21 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:22 -0400, John Watlington wrote: Mitch, One of the LBA NAND test machines killed it's MBR. It started with a failed comparison of the commonly written blocks, then stopped talking to the device at all. On reboot, fdisk showed no partition table. dd of

Re: LBA NAND corruption

2008-10-21 Thread Mitch Bradley
David Woodhouse wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:22 -0400, John Watlington wrote: Mitch, One of the LBA NAND test machines killed it's MBR. It started with a failed comparison of the commonly written blocks, then stopped talking to the device at all. On reboot, fdisk showed no

Re: LBA NAND corruption

2008-10-21 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 08:41 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: For example, consider yourself. When you worked for RH, OLPC could get lots of your valuable attention because of the OLPC/RH connection. But now that you are associated with Intel, what is the situation? (Perhaps we could in fact

Re: LBA NAND corruption

2008-10-21 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Watlington wrote: Mitch, One of the LBA NAND test machines killed it's MBR. It started with a failed comparison of the commonly written blocks, then stopped talking to the device at all. On reboot, fdisk showed no partition table. dd of /dev/lba showed all FFs for the first 16K,

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 09:35 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *But*, we should be able to: * Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to school server

Request for hosting: BundleActivity

2008-10-21 Thread Lewis Barnett
1. Project name : BundleActivity 2. Existing website, if any : 3. One-line description : Extract or create bundles of objects in various formats. 4. Longer description : Activity to extract files from downloaded zip : or tar.gz archives. Create

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only in the sense that when the application runs that wants to print you need to tell it which printer it is to use.However, if there is only one printer and that is made the default,even that does not have to be done.

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread genesee
I also suspect that many of the G1G1 users will have a Linux machine available. Well, not this G1G1 user. Nor do I have access to a mac or a pc or a lan. I figure when the day comes that I must print something from my xo, I'll have to put it on a thumb drive and take it to a Kinko's or an

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread david
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, genesee wrote: I also suspect that many of the G1G1 users will have a Linux machine available. Well, not this G1G1 user. Nor do I have access to a mac or a pc or a lan. I figure when the day comes that I must print something from my xo, I'll have to put it on a thumb

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread genesee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while since you also don't have a printer this doesn't apply to you (other than the 'print to the journal/file' option) truewhy would I buy a printer for my computer that does not support printing? how about getting tivo without a teevee? or 'triple a'

Fwd: [vox] Tux Paint code_swarm'd

2008-10-21 Thread Sameer Verma
This is interesting. Bill Kendrick ran code_swarm against CVS logs of TuxPaint. Wonder what code_swarm of Sugar will look like... Code Swarm: http://vis.cs.ucdavis.edu/~ogawa/codeswarm/ Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Justin Gallardo
Over at the OSL, we were able to get new printers showing in the MeshBox, and had just started working on coming up with some interface for configuration. We had some hang ups with some of the code used to detect printers over avahi, but other than that things seem to work.

Improving software update downloads with metalink?

2008-10-21 Thread Anthony Bryan
I've made a metalink for the software downloads on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0 ( filed a ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8866 ): http://www.metalinker.org/samples/OLPC_8.2.0_gg-767-4.img.metalink A metalink is an XML file that lists checksums, mirrors, signatures, other

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Ok - I had missed the whole thread in my earlier reply. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *But*, we should be able to: * Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to school server via CUP (IPP?), and install a decent selection of

Re: [Server-devel] Backup of laptops

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have the right ownership, and the ds-backup.py on my 767 image doesn't look the same as in that trac log. I'll look into it some more. The other thing to check is that ~/.sugar/default/owner.key in the XO is mode 600 .