On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 09:26 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
> I regret that I must once again unsubscribe from devel, as the noise
> level has gotten out of control.
That 'noise' is engagement with the community. If you feel that olpc
has the resources to provide a complete system through a cathedra
32% of all noise on all mail lists is people announcing they are leaving due
to the signal to noise ratio.
(67% of all statistics are made up.)
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote:
> I regret that I must once again unsubscribe from devel, as the noise
> level has gotten out o
Useful website: http://inventwithpython.com/
It was recommended by Nat Torkington so worthy of sharing the link.
It has links for downloading Python installer for multiple operating systems
as well as the book as .pdf or web page.
Tabitha
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:05:46PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> For people still looking at issues lurking in the
> NM/wpa_supplicant/driver interactions, I have written this simple
> script that helps correlate the wpa_supplicant logs (in
> seconds-since-boot) with the NM logs (timestamped by s
NoiseEHC wrote:
> What you do
> not want to recognize is that you are excluding a lot of developers who
> do not want to waste their time because of the lack of IDEs.
We are trying to provide stepping stones. One of those steps is the
Develop activity [1], which is a Sugar-oriented IDE for Acti
I regret that I must once again unsubscribe from devel, as the noise
level has gotten out of control.
I need to get some actual OLPC-related work done, instead of listening
to people giving free advice and telling others what they ought to be doing.
If something that requires my attention shoul
to do this you would have to declare one specific variation of these
tools as the 'One True Way' and eliminate all the others.
the advantage of a loosly coupled IDE is that one component can be
replaced by something else without having to change/loose all the
other things.
and
the advantag
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM, wrote:
> the advantage of a loosly coupled IDE is that one component can be replaced
> by something else without having to change/loose all the other things.
Bingo! As soon as git was working, I switched fulltime to it (and
dragged my team with me ;-) ). When val
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, NoiseEHC wrote:
2009/12/29 NoiseEHC :
me. Another (optional) question is why did you left out gdb from the list?
All sorts of things run on the 3/4 xterms i use. valgrind, gdb,
python -m pdb, tail -f /path/to/log, ipython, ps_mem.py, psql, git
commands...
And if al
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:12:33PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > I've uploaded patch with minor fixes and delete fix
> > (b0113bf67c31dbeaa08cf0f1710c1be8d02a9b25 should be cherry-picked)
>
> Excellent! thanks! Will be re-diffing it a bit
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> I've uploaded patch with minor fixes and delete fix
> (b0113bf67c31dbeaa08cf0f1710c1be8d02a9b25 should be cherry-picked)
Excellent! thanks! Will be re-diffing it a bit later today.
> to last sucrose-0.84, was backported 0.86 patch
> (f93c9de
For people still looking at issues lurking in the
NM/wpa_supplicant/driver interactions, I have written this simple
script that helps correlate the wpa_supplicant logs (in
seconds-since-boot) with the NM logs (timestamped by syslog).
log-secs-to-utc.py < log-in-secs.log > log-in-utc.log
- Yo
2009/12/29 NoiseEHC :
me. Another (optional) question is why did you left out gdb from the list?
All sorts of things run on the 3/4 xterms i use. valgrind, gdb,
python -m pdb, tail -f /path/to/log, ipython, ps_mem.py, psql, git
commands...
And if all those tools would be integrat
2009/12/29 NoiseEHC :
> me. Another (optional) question is why did you left out gdb from the list?
All sorts of things run on the 3/4 xterms i use. valgrind, gdb,
python -m pdb, tail -f /path/to/log, ipython, ps_mem.py, psql, git
commands...
> All your code is perfect because you are a top-qualit
For the other people talking about IDEs: an usable IDE is not a text
editor.
Of course. What I do (and most other productive programmers I know do)
is use the window manager (gnome, kde, awesome...), xterms, a
webbrowser, etc, to make a "LIDE": loosely integrated dev environment.
I've le
> Are you aware the XO ships a full Smalltalk IDE? You know, like VisualAge
> which later became Eclipse? It's "hidden" in the Etoys activity, but
> (surprise!) it's a kids laptop.
Because someone will break your arms if you port Etoys to Android. Now I
understand.
> The software is designed
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:52, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> You got some good replies already, but you may want to consider
>> contacting Gustavo Ibarra or Gonzalo Odiard (cc'ed) who are pushing
>> Sugar in Argentina.
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> You got some good replies already, but you may want to consider
> contacting Gustavo Ibarra or Gonzalo Odiard (cc'ed) who are pushing
> Sugar in Argentina.
My thoughts exactly.
Also -- if you're going to be in Buenos Aires, it is worthwhile
Please all join us reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:47 AM, NoiseEHC wrote:
> For the other people talking about IDEs: an usable IDE is not a text
> editor.
Of course. What I do (and most other productive programmers I know do)
is use the window manager (gnome, kde, awesome...), xterms, a
webbrowser, etc, to make a "LIDE":
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 00:47, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> H All i...
>
> Did this ever get implemented? If so where do I find it? Are there any
> special instructions I need to make and use the live CD? Can a usb stick be
> used for file storage?
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.84/Sugar_LiveCD
>
>
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