Sugar window managing UI (was: Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting)

2010-01-06 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:18:47PM -0500, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I think there's room for solid innovation here, especially since the window manager of sugar was *my* personal roadblock to productive on-XO activity development. Interesting. What exactly about the window manager crippled your

Re: Sugar window managing UI (was: Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting)

2010-01-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 11:49 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: a) is harder as every window switch currently involves saving current state to the DS (which resides on an abysmally slow SD card in my case), usually done synchronously. It also generates log messages, right? In which case, a fix for

Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 - Build11

2010-01-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:43 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: Keyboard and mouse will not wakeup from sleep.  Can be fixed by disabling power management in Sugar. Is there any reason for cutting release after release that don't work unless end users disable power management (sometimes

Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 - Build11

2010-01-06 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 22:43 -0800, John Gilmore wrote: Keyboard and mouse will not wakeup from sleep. Can be fixed by disabling power management in Sugar. Is there any reason for cutting release after release that don't work unless end users disable power management (sometimes twice!)?

Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 - Build11

2010-01-06 Thread Paul Fox
john wrote: Keyboard and mouse will not wakeup from sleep. Can be fixed by disabling power management in Sugar. Is there any reason for cutting release after release that don't work unless end users disable power management (sometimes twice!)? to be clear, the releases in question

Re: Sugar window managing UI

2010-01-06 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
What I hate about the Sugar window managing UI is: a) _very_ long switching time b) there's no way to switch to a specific window (=activity instance), I need to cycle through all of them with Alt+Tab For me, the Alt+Tab switch time on the XO is around one second (or less) to the next window.

Re: Sugar window managing UI

2010-01-06 Thread Tiago Marques
The very long time is hard to get rid of, at least on the XO 1. As far as I can tell, the biggest problem is that ALT-TAB cycles through the apps by the order they were open and not in the order by which they were last accessed(which is non standard behaviour nowadays) and which causes problems

Re: Sugar window managing UI

2010-01-06 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 10:12:44AM -0600, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: For me, the Alt+Tab switch time on the XO is around one second (or less) to the next window. It takes several seconds for me, especially if Browse is involved. I'm running sugar-jhbuild (= debug logging) on an abysmally slow SD

Re: Sugar window managing UI

2010-01-06 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 06:07:56PM +, Tiago Marques wrote: The very long time is hard to get rid of, at least on the XO 1. As far as I can tell, the biggest problem is that ALT-TAB cycles through the apps by the order they were open and not in the order by which they were last

New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 105

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Ball
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://build.laptop.org/10.2.0/os105 Compressed image size: 702.50mb (+0.25mb since build 104) Description of changes in this build: * workaround for wireless resume crash from dsd (#9836) Package changes since build 104: -gnome-keyring-2.26.3-1.fc11.i586

Re: Sugar window managing UI

2010-01-06 Thread Tiago Marques
Indeed, it would probably also be a good addition! Best regards, Tiago On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-sugar-olpc-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 06:07:56PM +, Tiago Marques wrote: The very long time is hard to get rid of, at least on the XO 1. As far

UDE - environment Alpha.

2010-01-06 Thread Neil Graham
I've been working on this a while. I've got something for people to look at. It's Alpha with many broken parts, but there's enough to get the idea and, cross fingers, encourage others to contribute. http://screamingduck.com/ude/ It's an environment aiming to provide an alternative to Sugar or

Re: [Server-devel] Various / PDF resources in Moodle

2010-01-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
David - good point. No direct control in that case -- I can probably switch the behaviour there with a small fix to Moodle. m On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:03 AM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: Hi Martin, I have verified this works for links to specific files. Can we also