Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
I've spent three days in Caacupè, observing how the new F11-XO1 build is doing among our young user base. It's a great success, but for the wrong reason: http://codewiz.org/wiki/blog/2010/03#mon-mar-8--children-want-sugar-084-for-the-wrong-reasons If we want a chance to improve our platform,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.03.2010, at 11:56, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I've spent three days in Caacupè, observing how the new F11-XO1 build is doing among our young user base. It's a great success, but for the wrong reason:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:35 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: So +1 to look customization. E.g., why not allow to change the gray frame color? In Etoys you can at least change the toolbar color (not permanently though, I should fix that). Even if it enrages our latte-drinking black-wearing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us. We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish, signed with the deployment keys. The procedure for each laptop is: (1)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Frederick Grose
See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/535#comment:5, Expose Journal, Home, Group, Neighborhood, Frame Sources, where it's suggested that we extend the 'Show Source' facility to more of Sugar. Learners like to exercise and demonstrate their knowledge by customizing or changing their environments.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us. We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:46 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us.

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2010-03-13 Thread Holt
Meet the guy volunteering his life for OLPC/Sugar on 4 different continents, almost 4 years later. Meet retired RD director, founder, VP, CTO of embedded technologies at http://codewiz.org/wiki/DevelerCompany Meet Sugar Labs' lead global sysadmin and Harvard School of Education part-time

Fuzzy screen problem in Nicaragua

2010-03-13 Thread German R S
The problem in Nicaragua is that we have more than 0.1%, we think that the percentage is around 1%. What we can do whit this problem??? German Ruiz Fundación Zamora Terán ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management. Are all activities working, including collaboration? In Gnome, can you

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Forgot to answer a paragraph: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Gary C Martin
On 13 Mar 2010, at 18:12, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you

Commit 2671e48d broke camera on XO-1

2010-03-13 Thread Sascha Silbe
Hi Jonathan! One of your somewhat recent commits, 2671e48d [1], broke the camera on XO-1. The CaFE TWSI port that is used for controlling the ov7670 on the XO-1 is listed as an SMBus by i2cdetect, which I suspect is the reason for the breakage: xo-bine:~# i2cdetect -l i2c-0 smbus

Re: Commit 2671e48d broke camera on XO-1

2010-03-13 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:00:04 +0100 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-olpc-de...@silbe.org wrote: One of your somewhat recent commits, 2671e48d [1], broke the camera on XO-1. I saw the bug entry, yes. The TWSI port is Vdd=2.5..3.3V only, so not fully I2C compliant = SMBus is the best fit.

Re: Fuzzy screen problem in Nicaragua

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:02 PM, German R S germa...@opensuse.org.ni wrote: The problem in Nicaragua is that we have more than 0.1%, we think that the percentage is around 1%. What we can do whit this problem??? Hi Germán, can you give us more detail about the problem? A few good quality

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 20:50 +, Gary C Martin wrote: Agreed, though this argument only really works if the changes each time are easy to install from the user perspective with no loss of data. I wish we were doing much better here. Me too, but it's not as bad as it seems: the techies use a

Re: [Server-devel] SoaS Blueberry compatibility

2010-03-13 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Hamilton Chua hamilton.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Samir, I've tested blueberry with an XS. Registration works but I ran into problems with backup and restore. It seems the XS knows how to handle sugar-datastore v 1 but blueberry is using v 2. I was able to