[TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Ajay Garg
Hi all. I have been facing transient issues in getting the 3G-Modem recognised (via the appearence of the corresponding icon in the bottom-tray). There really is no fixed pattern; sometimes the icon appears when the modem is inserted; sometimes not. Same is the case when the XO is rebooted,

Re: [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread James Cameron
I have heard from other people who have faced issues that may be similar at root. I suggest that you deepen your investigation to determine the reaction of the kernel, and the ModemManager process, to the insertion of the device. Compare the reactions between working and non-working scenarios.

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread forster
Ajay You do not say which OS you are using or whether its Sugar or Gnome desktop. For most of 13.1.0 the modem dongle has not been appearing in the Sugar frame. It was fixed at OS11 I think but I have not tested it a lot to see if its always there in the frame. Tony I have heard from other

Re: [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread RJV
Yes, Ajay, it does happen the way you describe so what I do is make sure that I have the device plugged in before starting the XO otherwise, you need to restart the XO for it to recognize the device or you need to switch desktop and upon returning back to Sugar, the device would be recognized. Jv

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Jerry Vonau
On 20 November 2012 19:33, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: Hi all. I have been facing transient issues in getting the 3G-Modem recognised (via the appearence of the corresponding icon in the bottom-tray). There really is no fixed pattern; sometimes the icon appears when the modem

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread RJV
On the same topic, is anyone experienced with 3G connectivity on XO 1.5? Will it work? 3 G works fine with 1.75, 12.1, 0.96, Build 21. Regards, Jv On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 20 November 2012 19:33, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:

XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity

2012-11-20 Thread RJV
Hi, Has anyone used 12.1, 0.96, Build 21 on XO 1.5 and the second part of the query is, does a 3G data card work on 1.5? Anyone with experience, please share. -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list

Re: XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity

2012-11-20 Thread James Cameron
What happens when you try? On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:04:19AM +0530, RJV wrote: Hi, Has anyone used 12.1, 0.96, Build 21 on XO 1.5 and the second part of the query is, does a 3G data card work on 1.5? Anyone with experience, please share. -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv

Re: [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
Ajay, folks, please indicate OS version, XO model, steps to repro (even if intermittent), and collect kernel logs so we can see WTH is going on. Otherwise we can only say maybe and speculate -- good stuff for idle converstation at a bar, but not productive if you want to see the problem

Re: XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity

2012-11-20 Thread RJV
Thanks, Jerry. James, it is a pre-emptive question. This may have to be tried on multiple XOs so had to be sure before purchasing them. I will update once it is done. Thanks. Regards, Jv On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:44 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: What happens when you try? On

Re: XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity

2012-11-20 Thread James Cameron
Every device is different, it is impossible to predict the outcome, unless you are able to identify the exact device and find someone who has used it. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:51:55AM +0530, RJV wrote: Thanks, Jerry. James, it is a pre-emptive question. This may have to be tried on multiple

Re: XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity

2012-11-20 Thread RJV
Yes, that is why I floated the question to see if there were any. Thanks. Regards, Jv On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:15 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Every device is different, it is impossible to predict the outcome, unless you are able to identify the exact device and find someone

Re: XO 1.5 and 3G connectivity

2012-11-20 Thread James Cameron
But you didn't identify the device. There are hundreds of different 3G USB devices, with different circuits, USB ID, firmware, and configuration settings. http://quozl.linux.org.au/bp3-usb/ was my last foray into this field, and it has grown more complex since, with more vendors and networks.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Jerry Vonau
On 21 November 2012 14:59, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: Ajay, folks, please indicate OS version, XO model, steps to repro (even if intermittent), and collect kernel logs so we can see WTH is going on. Otherwise we can only say maybe and speculate -- good stuff for idle

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:07:20PM +1100, Jerry Vonau wrote: Dropping the power to the usb bus is making the modem play peek-a-boo with the kernel: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10708. Is that all it is? How boring. Nothing new. Ajay, can you confirm your problem goes away if you turn off

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Ajay Garg
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:07:20PM +1100, Jerry Vonau wrote: Dropping the power to the usb bus is making the modem play peek-a-boo with the kernel: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10708. Is that all it is? How boring.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:01:07PM +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: I am downloading os12 for XO-1.75 so that I can update with the results on the latest image. That's nice. Still, I'm interested if turning off automatic power management solves the problem for you ... with the build you already have.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Jerry Vonau
On 21 November 2012 17:24, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:07:20PM +1100, Jerry Vonau wrote: Dropping the power to the usb bus is making the modem play peek-a-boo with the kernel: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10708. Is that all it is? How boring. Nothing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 06:29:42PM +1100, Jerry Vonau wrote: Yawn, yup boring unless a sponsor of your deployment is a 3G service provider, then it becomes a major 'has to work out of the box' from a business point of view. Perhaps this service provider can provide technical support? If it's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:40 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I don't think having an end-user with no experience with USB IDs add an entry to the usb-inhibits file, or having to remember to turn off a major feature is the correct long term solution IMHO. You guys are driving OOB, so