Re: how to default to TOUCHPAD_MODE_PENTABLET?

2012-07-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com wrote: In our climate, XO-1 pen tablet mode is usually more reliable than mouse mode. I want to start in pen pablet mode by default. For Sugar, I got this effect by changing the initialization in the frame's touchpad

Re: Fwd: [PATCH]Add --cacheonly to livecd-create (and to olpc-os-builder)

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: That is kind of interesting as I'm on liv...@lists.fedoraproject.org. I have not had any email from that list since July 9 nor have the archives[1]. Where did that email end up going? Yeah, I'm subscribed there with nomail,

Re: Retina display

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile How about fovea display? ;-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't

Fwd: [PATCH]Add --cacheonly to livecd-create (and to olpc-os-builder)

2012-07-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
-- Forwarded message -- From: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:09 AM Subject: [PATCH]Add --cacheonly to livecd-create (and to olpc-os-builder) To: liv...@lists.fedoraproject.org As part of adding --cacheonly to olpc-os-builder, which

11.3.2 release candidate 1 (build 886) released

2012-07-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
In early usage of 11.3.1, a critical bug was identified. The bug affects only XO 1.75 units using the activation feature of the antitheft Bitfrost system. The bug is described at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11374 We're pleased to announce our first release candidate of our 11.3.2 software

Re: Fwd: [PATCH]Add --cacheonly to livecd-create (and to olpc-os-builder)

2012-07-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: after the first pass of OOB, so why bother with the upstream patches. Yum has good support for it already. Avoiding upstream would require torturing yum first to populate the local cache, _then_ transposing the local cache for

OOB: add --cacheonly support for completely offline runs

2012-07-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
them land in an F17 update. Martin Langhoff (8): Introduce --cacheonly boolean option, propagate to modules ooblib: introduce cachedurlopen(), use it in get_repomd() use cachedurlopen() in repos and yumcfg modules base: add cacheonly support, active when imgcreate supports

Re: Testing Summary, Auckland - 23 June 2012

2012-07-15 Thread Gary Martin
On 14 Jul 2012, at 23:52, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Not quite 1 month late, I present for your eduction: Auckland Testing Summary 23/06/12 Who - John, Fabiana, Tabitha, Tom We tested Build 12.1.0 RC 2 (build

Re: [Testing] Testing Summary, Auckland 14 July 2012

2012-07-15 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Tom, On 15 Jul 2012, at 12:27, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Testing Summary, Auckland 14 July 2012 Who: Brenda, Fabiana, John, Nevyn, Tom We tested 12.1.0 build 18 on XO-1.5 and XO-1.75 Nolan (XO-1.75): paint - seems ok. Physics: get the strange behaviour at the top of the

Re: On XO-1.5 with 11.3.0/11.3.1 -- hang during shutdown?

2012-07-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi folks, where is Deepak Muddhaa based? Any reason his failing XO and SD card can't be traded for good ones, and the failing units shipped to James, Miami or Boston, where we can look at things at a lower level? We'll gladly provide a replacement unit. I appreciate all the analysis, but it' is

Re: Patch written for Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: More update (from Avahi) : http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01896.html So perhaps Telepathy-Salut should be told to contact its known nodes regularly, and prune stale entries? As they state,

Re: [Dextrose] Patch written for Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: So perhaps Telepathy-Salut should be told to contact its known nodes regularly, and prune stale entries? Don't know if that would make a difference, because either ways, a machine would send a (polling) signal to all

Re: Patch written for Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut

2012-07-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: I have written a patch for Avahi, that solves the bugs [UPSTREAM] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3748 [DOWNSTREAM]   http://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1332 Thanks for working on this. Neither link has a patch.

Re: Patch written for Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut

2012-07-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: The patch link was embedded later into the email :: http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/common-patch-for-f14-and-f17/customize-avahi-default-ttl-values.patch Ah, thanks! Have you shown this patch

Re: Patch written for Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut

2012-07-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: Just sent them a notification :) Ok, that's a start. Reason is that, because avahi-daemon requires avahi-core to complete its linking process, whereas avahi-core would need avahi-daemon to complete its linking process

Re: [Server-devel] armv7hl vs armv7l

2012-07-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:52 AM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad that the trimslice generated rpms I have will be usable.  I'll need to learn how to override the default arch, so that yum will do what I want it to do. But I have google for that! You should not need to override

Re: Kernel development setup for XO-1.75

2012-07-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote:  - Our defconfig file is in arch/arm/configs/xo_175_defconfig. I normally copy it to .config and then perl -pi -e 's/=m/=y/' to make a monolithic kernel that Just Boots. As someone pointed out, I did not explain this step

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.1 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-07-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 11.3.1 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and as a formal release for XO-1.75. Wooohoo! Thanks! cheers, m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC  

Re: XO-1 update to 885

2012-07-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was actually monitoring free space at 15sec intervals during olpc-update. Updating from os883 to os885 requires just 30MB free space. It is likely that from older builds will be a problem but not from the last

Re: Python bindings based on Phonegap?

2012-06-21 Thread Gary Martin
On 21 Jun 2012, at 20:50, Lester Leong wrote: Does anyone know if there are Python bindings based off the Phonegap API, with similar method calls, etc.? I'm developing an HTML5/Javascript activity that I would like to eventually port to Android and other mobile platforms. Having a set of

Re: [Testing] Testing Summary, Auckland - 16 June 2012

2012-06-16 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Tom, On 16 Jun 2012, at 12:56, Tom Parker wrote: Kiwi (an XO-1.75): Memorise seems ok. Physics: still has that odd behaviour at the top of the canvas that was reported i think two weeks ago. Rosella (an XO-1.5 does not seem to have the same issue in physics as kiwi. Thanks for noting

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
This thread has gone pretty long and deep into the bikeshedding realm. I am surprised nobody posted the answer to the original question of getting an XO for a developer: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program However Lester thinks the programming should go, if it is going to go on XOs,

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Lester Leong lester.ble...@gmail.com wrote: Scott - could you point me in the right direction as far as a good JS/HTML5 framework? Keep in mind that _today_ XOs don't ship with a workable JS runtime environment other than the webbrowser. We may do so in the

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 13 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, according to the olpc-utils git repo it should have been in 2.0.13 which we have, it seems either didn't have a trac ticket or it wasn't in my queue/ Actually, we missed this on os13, it never made it to

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 13 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I was just going on the logs from git and we have 2.0.13 and according to the logs 2.0.13 was post that commit, but it seems it wasn't tagged so I assume 2.0.13 is the same as 2.0.12 then

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Lester Leong lester.ble...@gmail.com wrote: The only reason for me to use Python would be to implement it as a native Sugar activity. But I'd like for the app to coexist on the

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Lester, you should not expect a webserver. No deployment has ever done it. Sqlite I think has always been included. We have an activity that runs its own webserver -- see the Wikipedia activity -- but has a pure Python webserver implementation. hth, martin On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Re: [Server-devel] Moodle broken with 0.94 datastore?

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: current entries in /library/user/SN.  Any thoughts on how to proceed? Needs fixing :-/ Sameer is right. m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC  - ask interesting questions  - don't get

Re: Kernel development setup for XO-1.75 [Devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 15]

2012-06-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: If you're on F17 (12.1.0), you can install a cross-compiler with yum; that's a better idea than using mine. sudo yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install gcc-arm-linux-gnu OOoooh! Evolution! :-) m --  

Re: buildrpm et al on the XO-1.75

2012-06-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: I was trying few things with the arm-3.0-wip kernel and was building fine in both x86_64 machines and the XO-1.75 itself! Heh! :-) However, buildrpm had some problems. For one, it defaults to /tmp as a

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 13 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-06-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: To fix this, try to get into a Terminal program in Sugar or GNOME as fast as you can, or use the serial port console (which is not time-restricted). I am an emacs-man (sometimes) so I tried a alternative with less

Kernel development setup for XO-1.75

2012-06-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
{ Maybe someone can polish it further and put it into a wikipage. Note that the process and tools change over time a bit... } Hi new kernel developer, Here are some hints, meant for a self-sufficient kernel developer to find her/his own way. Some you may know already :-) - You will want to be

On XO-1.5 with 11.3.0/11.3.1 -- hang during shutdown?

2012-06-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi folks, the Dextrose team has been hunting a bug on XO-1.5, on their variant of 11.3.x (Dextrose 3 or DX3), and they are pointing out that it could be a latent or unreported problem in 11.3.x series. It could also be a problem in their modifications. While they continue to investigate, it is

Re: On XO-1.5 with 11.3.0/11.3.1 -- hang during shutdown?

2012-06-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote:  - Seems to be related to umount of /home failing. Adding sync ; sleep 2; before umount seems to cure it; that's their current workaround. Cutting the CC list down to only devel@ for debugging -- Anish, thanks

Re: On XO-1.5 with 11.3.0/11.3.1 -- hang during shutdown?

2012-06-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: We'll do some explicit testing of shutdown on Saturday. Fantastic, thanks! m --  mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC  - ask interesting questions  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first  -

Re: First pass of 11.3.1 release notes

2012-06-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: 11.3.1 Build 885 Initial notes for our Kenya builds. Thanks for the report! SD cards mount as they did in 883 using the same names and mount points. USB media auto-mounts as before. Heads up: that's changing in 12.1.0

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Running pulseaudio and alsa together.

2012-06-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Ajay, we install the bits for PA (due to dependencies), but disable it. Look at olpc-os-builder; git grep for pulse -- that will show you how we disable it. Alsa is always present and in use. When you are using PA, PA connects to alsa and uses it directly. Nomal programs then connect to PA

Re: First pass of 11.3.1 release notes

2012-06-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com wrote: In this page [1] says that the release date for 12.1.0 is on 2 July 2012 and for 11.3.1 is on 1 May 2012. I think that we should change that :) [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes Well, 11.3.1 missed all its

Re: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: but, XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 ¿?¿?¿?¿? Do you know why? As others have pointed out, compression is the difference. The build usually creates a .tar.lzma file, you can compare the size of the tar.lzma

First pass of 11.3.1 release notes

2012-05-31 Thread Martin Langhoff
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.1 Some links point to official instead of candidate. Known issue ;-) m --  mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC  - ask interesting questions  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first  -

11.3.1 release candidate 2 (build 885) released

2012-05-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
We're pleased to announce our second release candidate of our 11.3.1 software release. This RC supports XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75. Information and installation instructions can be found here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.1 Quick links for those who know which files need to be

Re: 11.3.1 release candidate 2 (build 885) released

2012-05-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: We're pleased to announce our second release candidate of our 11.3.1 software release. What is interesting about this build compared to the previous RC? All platforms - Updated OFW with various bugfixes

Re: XO-1 SD card access during boot-up

2012-05-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: For three years now, as part of my XO customization I've had an initialization script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ that issues an explicit 'mount' This is a shot in the dark, but might be of use.Your mount script was racing with the

Re: 12.1.0 devel build 12 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Looks like the disabled autobuilder on koji2.laptop.org was run with a configuration to build and push for F17, overriding the kernel we actually wanted. Damn! That was me -- I ran it but never expected that koji2 would push

Re: XO battery/performance

2012-05-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: The test was done is Sugar and during the entire test the backlight was on and the rolling count output was displayed in the terminal activity. The XOs were associated with the same AP but no network or other

Re: XO battery/performance

2012-05-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: I do not think I claimed a sophisticated test. Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt here. But it's really not testing what you thought it was testing, as others have pointed out. If you want an idea of low-level

Random notes on WebOS's Enyo

2012-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
There's been recent discussions about running HTML5 apps in Sugar and/or the OLPC OS, just like WebOS does. A bit earlier today on irc... (slightly edited for clarity) [12:21:29] cscott cjb: hp's webos team has apparently been hired en bloc by google [12:21:45] cscott

Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: OLPC OS 12.1.0 is looking good! I noticed that en_US and en_AU are available. We have our language fallbacks set to en_AU;en_GB;en_US to overcome the lack of strings in en_AU. Would it be possible to have en_GB

Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: I am only really asking because you have gone to the trouble (thanks!) of including en_AU, which in its current state is only useful if there's an en_GB fallback. This actually makes sense, since en_AU and en_GB

Re: OLPC stuff found during Pootle housekeeping

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Chris, I think it is all abandonware except for the content part. That is possibly now part of olpc-utils . With the local deployment keys feature, the localization needs to be deeper -- not just a string. Maybe it should be a request for an OOB module -- similar to how we replace the library

Re: pointer (touchpad) aceleration and threshold too low in 11.3.* builds

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
For testing, you can use xset in a Terminal window. It will take effect immediately. cheers, m On May 18, 2012 4:52 PM, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote: Eduardo H. Silva hoboprim...@gmail.com writes: P.S.- is there a script that is run when Sugar starts where I could place

Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
I am expecting to take a brief holiday out in the sea. Many bays with anchorage also have bars and restaurants with open wifi. I prefer to enjoy breakfast on board... and get my interweb fix from afar. Is there any directional wlan antenna kit or setup that is practical with an XO? Maybe

Re: OLPC stuff found during Pootle housekeeping

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Chris, I think it is all abandonware except for the content part. That is possibly now part of olpc-utils . With the local deployment keys feature, the localization needs to be deeper -- not just a string. Maybe it should be a request for an OOB module -- similar to how we replace the library

Re: Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: No idea how you would hook it up. but there is the famous Pringles can recipe http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/ Yep, that's why I'm asking, that old trick. I'm hoping

Re: Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: You can achieve a significant gain by making the antenna higher, especially if you need to get past anything in the fresnel zone, such as the masts of other boats or restaurant windows. OK. I'll try to get an ext usb wlan

Re: Booting OLPC OS 12.1 from USB sticks and SD cards

2012-05-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote: If there's interest in diagnosing one or more of the failure modes I can give details and maybe assist a bit in debugging (or preferably send you the hardware), but it looks like a lot of work If an OFW hacker shows

Re: [PATCH powerd] audio inhibit support

2012-05-22 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Walter, You might also want to take a quick look at what Physics is doing, might not be pretty, but I remember needing to catch more than one event/test to make sure the simulation was suspended correctly across a range of past build releases, perhaps also a case where switching to a desktop

Re: pointer (touchpad) aceleration and threshold too low in 11.3.* builds

2012-05-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Eduardo H. Silva hoboprim...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, perhaps this is the problem. I actually have a B4, sorry for calling it XO-1 (I as I have refered to it forever)... Am I the only one getting this experience then? So XO-1 B4? Can you confirm as per

Re: Booting OLPC OS 12.1 from USB sticks and SD cards

2012-05-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote: As I've had considerable trouble getting OLPC OS 12.1 to work on my XOs, I thought I'd share with everyone what I know to be broken so others don't fall into the same traps: |                  | XO-1              

Re: Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.com wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are there any deployments that still want the mesh to work?  It might be simpler to pull it out now, given that only XO-1 supports it. FWIW, Py,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Don't think OOB is used to generate the initramfs, from the kernel spec file: You are correct as to current state of play. It _used_ to be generated during the OOB run. Now it is build during the kernel build. This makes things

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH olpc-netutils] Change mode of logtemp files to be able to remove them OLPC #11851

2012-05-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com wrote: This is a workaround to be able to remove the files copied by olpc-log to a temporal directory. Thanks! Applied, added the BZ# to the inline comment, pushed, cheers, m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: I tried the rmmod/modprobe hack in olpc-configure, and it worked (obviously because, this time the /etc.modprobe.d/libertas.conf could be fetched/read from persistent storage). Mesh-icons were no more visible in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: If I boot with /security/develop.sig folder in my pendrive, a) mesh-icons are observed in neighborhood-view, both during reboot and resume-from-suspend. Welcome to the initramfs stage of your journey! When the laptop

Virtual Keyboard and i18n/l10n

2012-05-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
cjl hey martin_xsa What is the timing on working out the virtual keyboard and how it gets specified for i18n/L10n? At this point it looks like we'll use Maliit, and looks like we'll have it integrated fairly soon. Maliit is mature (shipped with Harmattan, Nokia N900), so it has its config files

Re: Virtual Keyboard and i18n/l10n

2012-05-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: I am very excited about the potential for a virtual keyboard on the XO-3 to remove silkscreening from the hardware L10n process. I am also very enthusiastic with the options an OSK brings to the table. Keep in mind

Re: XO-1.75 serial console enabled by default

2012-05-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: For the next 12.1.0 build I've just enabled the XO-1.75 serial console by default in the kernel config. We had disabled this earlier as we had linked it to suspend/resume crashes, but we now believe that link to have been

Re: F17-ARM devel tools

2012-05-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: groupinstall'ed Development Tools on 21009o2 and noticed 2 things. Kernel-devel is 3.0.19_xo... but kernel-headers is 3.3.4-3.f17. gcc-4.7.0-4 is an unsigned rpm. Are these expected and OK to go on? Yeah, I

Re: Checking filesystems periodically

2012-05-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Thirdly, fsck is not magic. It cannot detect/repair all corruption. As far as I know, we have not yet found a case of corruption which can be meaningfully fixed by fsck. We did do quite a bit of testing for this at an earlier

Re: F17-ARM devel tools

2012-05-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: So, the 3.3.4 headers are fine for the 3.0.19 kernel? Yes for building userland stuff. Not for building kernel modules. We aren't currently building kernel headers package splitoff. We should :-/ m --  

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-05 Thread Martin Abente
PM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Did you remove the disable mesh.script for the testing? Yes. Both from :: a) my custom added in '/etc/init.d/NetworkManager'. b) '/etc/powed/postresume.d

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-04 Thread Martin Abente
Did you remove the disable mesh.script for the testing? El may 4, 2012 10:39 p.m., Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com escribió: On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote: Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com writes: [...] b) Ensured that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: Just that, we do not wish to set up a mesh-network, as per say. I think you are missing the background reason here. AFAIK, reasons to disable mesh network on XO-1: - Mesh can easily saturate RF, so dense usage scenarios

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. But there is no working lower-level solution :\ Let's fix that. Messing with Sugar won't help you. Earlier in the thread someone pointed to you the scripts to trigger on resume (by powerd). Do those work? Not work?

Re: Switching to randomly generated hostnames

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: In Nicaragua we are seeing cases where XOs have no hostname set, both on XO-1 and XO-1.5. On XO-1 this is presumably because libertas usb8388 init was never 100% reliable, and on XO-1.5 its presumably because the wireless

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: The /etc/powerd/postresume.d/disable_mesh.sh  doesn't work. So we need to understand why it does not work. Is it a race condition? Perhaps it is better fixed as a udev script -- triggering when the device appears. The step

Re: Switching to randomly generated hostnames

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:28 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: I second this recommendation.   While the MAC address in the manufacturing data may not be correct (if the WLAN card has been changed), it is guaranteed to be as unique as the laptop serial number. Talking with Wad about

Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration XO-1 with XS

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:18 PM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: I’ll do some work when I get a chance to replicate and isolate the issue and get some data as you suggest. Quick question, is it possible to transfer the database and Moodle history (users, etc) from one XS

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Abente
, where it guarantee that the script will be executed before NM does its job at resume time. Another solution is to find out why NM crashes now and why didn't before, but I wouldn't go that way. Cheers, On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 2

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: I think (guessing by the responses) the original problem here is that, if you disable the mesh AFTER NM has taken the device, NM crashes. This a regression bug, considering that this didn't happened in fedora-11

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Abente
How hard and sensible do you think it could be to backport that patch? :D (Assuming that touching the kernel is an option for someone, hehe) On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: In one of the earlier mails, it was said that the mac address for msh0 is the same as eth0. Ah, sorry, you're correct, that won't help. So your options are - a kernel module parameter, as Jon proposes, in modprobe.d/ or

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: Good News. I managed to get this working (albeit via changes in sugar). The details are at :: http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/4ac1a5300f4c43608b0f009a23d966d404a15632 The patch seems fairly wrong to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that the number of packets being forwarded in this, would be (much) less than in the scenario when the users are actually connected to a mesh-network-channel. Kindly affirm/reject my above notion :) I am a very

Re: Switching to randomly generated hostnames

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 1 - the code to setup /etc/sysconfig/network is in the wrong place -- it should trigger boot that /etc/sysconfig/network is missing Yes, we can improve the code that handles this case. That'll be great :-) 2 - yes,

Re: Switching to randomly generated hostnames

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: I think they would just point out that the solution we're working towards is the wrong approach. That is, we're requiring the hardware to be connected at boot for it to be used. If you connect it after boot, nothing happens.

RE: [Server-devel] Collaboration XO-1 with XS

2012-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
When the problem happens, it'll be interesting to see the output of olpc-netstatus and olpc-xos cmdline utilities on XOs that have trouble and on those that don't. There's additional debugging info you can get from ejabberd on the XS. There's a page in the wiki (in the XS techniques page?) that

Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration XO-1 with XS

2012-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
When the problem happens, it'll be interesting to see the output of olpc-netstatus and olpc-xos cmdline utilities on XOs that have trouble and on those that don't. There's additional debugging info you can get from ejabberd on the XS. There's a page in the wiki (in the XS techniques page?) that

Re: Determining whether we are doing pretty boot -- in olpc-configure - 12.1.0

2012-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: How do we determine whether we are doing pretty boot? I am looking at olpc-configure at this moment. Curious why you need to know this. Anyway

Re: Determining whether we are doing pretty boot -- in olpc-configure - 12.1.0

2012-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: I see no reason why you should hold off testing with 12.1.0 (please use os8 I've tested it -- broken :-/ - I'm working on it. Fix is coming to os9. And perhaps even support for DisplayLink devices too. It's mostly working now

Determining whether we are doing pretty boot -- in olpc-configure - 12.1.0

2012-04-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
How do we determine whether we are doing pretty boot? I am looking at olpc-configure at this moment. Right now our dracut module only looks at the dcon state -- but then it starts fiddling with it so those who come later are stuck. Could it frob /proc/cmdline, tacking a prettyboot at the end?

Re: olpc-update for 12.1.0

2012-04-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Should now be working: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/12.1.0#Online_upgrade Thanks! Covering all the bases of the build scheme change is not for the faint of heart, nor the easily distracted. cheers, m --  

Re: [PATCH runin] Port to systemd

2012-04-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Daniel it's excellent that runin is a runlevel. That's been pending for long. However... A runin-check service is run every boot, after olpc-configure but before the rest of the system. runin-check is based on the old init script. _After_ olpc-configure? AIUI, runin was running much

Re: [PATCH runin] Port to systemd

2012-04-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Required-Start: olpc-configure ### END INIT INFO ok, and I guess that overrides the chkconfig lines that put runin at 00 and olpc-configure at 01? A naive look at the rc.d symlinks has kept lots of

Re: [Server-devel] Browse or Moodle-XS error - Redirect Loop Redirection limit reached

2012-04-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:39 AM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: Also found a file named.run which is nearly 1GB in size, – I gather this is a debugging file, can I disable the function that generates it? Will Normally named.run should only contain a number, a small integer.

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 8 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-04-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
#11735 oprofile, perf available for/in build Yay! is perf also available for 1.75 builds? m { Martin Langhoff - one laptop per child } ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate

2012-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: appliance runs nothing more than ejabberd. There's no moodle, dhcp, dns or other services. How does the appliance get a domain name? Then the children just set a collaboration server to connect to in the

Re: [Techteam] Announcing Q3C05 for XO-1.5

2012-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: How useful is this for a layperson to clone an XO's setup across a school/classroom? Is this a replacement for http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging_for_XO-1.5 ? All those paths are unsupported, and full of nasty

Re: Announcing Q3C05 for XO-1.5

2012-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:43 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Jerry could also write a startup script that does these actions All the startup (or shutdown) scripts I can think of that could return the filesystem to a pristine condition... they also undo customizations you may be wanting

Re: XO still bootable with incomplete fs-update

2012-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:56 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: We found that erase commands sent to certain microSD cards would fail. We removed the erase commands from the start of fs-update.  This would have worked against you. Ouch! I hadn't realized we had removed the commands

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