Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-11 Thread Ricardo Carrano
I would like to add some general remarks: - Radio off is already there. So, the user can turn it off and save power. - Mesh off is due to a future release. It's just not been a priority on the wireless front recently (and it shouldn't be, right?). - Infrastructure is not always present. The defaul

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-11 Thread david
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Hal Murray wrote: >> what's the power draw of the WLAN chip if the transmitter is turned off? > > Most of the power goes into the receiver. Yes, that might seem > counter-intuitive. > > To first order, the transmitter doesn't take any power unless it's actually > transmitting

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-11 Thread Hal Murray
> what's the power draw of the WLAN chip if the transmitter is turned off? Most of the power goes into the receiver. Yes, that might seem counter-intuitive. To first order, the transmitter doesn't take any power unless it's actually transmitting something. After that, it's linear with how muc

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread david
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > "Walter Bender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [...] >> Chris Ball provided Richard with some power readings from our newly >> enhanced power tinderbox running a C2 (mass production) laptop. [...] >> The top auto-suspend power-draw breakdown: >> >>

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Hal Murray wrote: > How long does it take to turn the radio on and off? (I'm assuming the EC can > do it without help from the main CPU.) It can, but only when the CPU is off. Turning off the WLAN turns of 3.3V and will crash the machine if things are not in suspend. The EC can also put the

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: > re: turn off the network when not contributing > I second this idea, if it can be implemented. > > Separate from suspended battery life, there is sleep life (I have to say > I still think these words are backwards. Suspend = automatic, screen on, > sleep= power bu

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Chris Ball wrote: >> The good news is that the 2W total matches what olpc-logbat reports >> as being the average for a 4.5 hour uninterrupted suspend session >> so measured matches reality. The bad news is that this works out >> to only about 8.5 hours of battery life with no waku

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Hal Murray
> > Has the following idea already come up? How about just turning off > > the wlan entirely during suspend, if the machine has reason to > > believe that its contribution to mesh connectivity is negligible? > Michail should answer this, but it sounds to me like an interesting > idea with s

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
re: turn off the network when not contributing I second this idea, if it can be implemented. Separate from suspended battery life, there is sleep life (I have to say I still think these words are backwards. Suspend = automatic, screen on, sleep= power button or close case, screen off; right?). On

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Hi, Chris - On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 01:44:15PM -0500, Chris Ball wrote: > [...] >> Has the following idea already come up? How about just turning off >> the wlan entirely during suspend, if the machine has reason to >> believe that its contribution to mesh connectivity is negligible?

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Frank, > Has the following idea already come up? How about just turning off > the wlan entirely during suspend, if the machine has reason to > believe that its contribution to mesh connectivity is negligible? Michail should answer this, but it sounds to me like an interesting idea wi

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > The good news is that the 2W total matches what olpc-logbat reports > as being the average for a 4.5 hour uninterrupted suspend session > so measured matches reality. The bad news is that this works out > to only about 8.5 hours of battery life with no wakups. My own perspectiv

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
"Walter Bender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > Chris Ball provided Richard with some power readings from our newly > enhanced power tinderbox running a C2 (mass production) laptop. [...] > The top auto-suspend power-draw breakdown: > > WLAN: 734 mW > backlight:362 mW > memory: 239