Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:37 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Since a conversation on IRC got unexpectedly heated, let me restate my > personal philosophy for OLPC's relationships with upstream: > > (a) I believe that we should put OLPC's goals *first*, and endeavor to > ensure that we are always m

Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think we're all agreed that even small forks have large long-term >> costs, and we'd prefer to avoid them where at all possible -- which we >

Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we're all agreed that even small forks have large long-term > costs, and we'd prefer to avoid them where at all possible -- which we > all agree seems to be the case at present. Here I disagree - small and medium

Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 7/7/08, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> I'll be presumptuous and speak on behalf of "upstream." Sugar >> developers are cognizant of the needs of OLPC and will go out of their >> way to make sure that th

Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll be presumptuous and speak on behalf of "upstream." Sugar > developers are cognizant of the needs of OLPC and will go out of their > way to make sure that the (by far) largest Sugar deployment is > successful. Has this

Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:37 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since a conversation on IRC got unexpectedly heated, let me restate my > personal philosophy for OLPC's relationships with upstream: I am surprised this got heated, you are right, and this isn't even controversial. This

Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread Walter Bender
> To the extent that sugarlabs is going to operate as a "true upstream", > they need to be cognizant of the fact that OLPC will at times put its > goals/process ahead of "upstream's" goals/process. I'll be presumptuous and speak on behalf of "upstream." Sugar developers are cognizant of the needs