Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
so after the 8.2.1 release the plan is to just switch to standard Linux distros? Speaking entirely as a volunteer: the answer depends on who you ask. Since I think that 8.2.0 wasn't half bad, I'm currently trying to persuade people who feel similarly to work with me to assemble an 8.2.2 with

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: so after the 8.2.1 release the plan is to just switch to standard Linux distros? What follows is my understanding of what Ed and cjb mean when they talk about future releases... Instead of a 9.1 done in the old way, staff and volunteers set

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread Samuel Klein
I would like to see a java update. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: so after the 8.2.1 release the plan is to just switch to standard Linux distros? Speaking entirely as a volunteer: the answer depends on who you ask. Since I think that 8.2.0 wasn't half

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread david
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Michael Stone wrote: so after the 8.2.1 release the plan is to just switch to standard Linux distros? Speaking entirely as a volunteer: the answer depends on who you ask. sorry if I seem like a pest, and I definantly do appriciate the volunteers here, but what I am

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread david
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: so after the 8.2.1 release the plan is to just switch to standard Linux distros? What follows is my understanding of what Ed and cjb mean when they talk about future releases... Instead of a

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: the first step is to track down the remaining XO only things that's what the 'fedora-olpc' mailing list has been all about for a while now. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread david
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: the first step is to track down the remaining XO only things that's what the 'fedora-olpc' mailing list has been all about for a while now. grumble grumble fedora centric US developers ;-) I'm

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 02:53:03AM -0800, da...@lang.hm wrote: I'm glad to hear it's been going on, I would have expected such things here on the OLPC developer list. are the folks working on other distros (debxo, ubuntu, gentoo that I know of) aware of the work happening on the fedora-olpc

Life after 8.2.1 (was Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1)

2009-02-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
(changing subject ...) On 06.02.2009, at 11:13, da...@lang.hm wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Michael Stone wrote: so after the 8.2.1 release the plan is to just switch to standard Linux distros? Speaking entirely as a volunteer: the answer depends on who you ask. sorry if I seem like a

Re: Life after 8.2.1 (was Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1)

2009-02-06 Thread Ties Stuij
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: (changing subject ...) It would seem to me that deployments will get to choose which software to install. snip/ [like] Luke's XOOS (http://lukego.livejournal.com/tag/xoos) is immature but cool Hah! Yes that would

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/2/6 da...@lang.hm: sorry if I seem like a pest, and I definantly do appriciate the volunteers here, but what I am trying to understand here are the plans of the olpc orginiztion itself. it's one thing to transition the maintinance of the Sugar UI to an outside orginization, it's

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Bert, We have had fixed Etoys / Squeak-VM packages ready for many months now, they just did not make it into 8.2 by a few days, and 8.2.1 was scheduled to be only a major-bugs fixing release, so we were holding out for 9.1. Since that is not going to happen we would very

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.02.2009, at 18:46, Chris Ball wrote: Hi Bert, We have had fixed Etoys / Squeak-VM packages ready for many months now, they just did not make it into 8.2 by a few days, and 8.2.1 was scheduled to be only a major-bugs fixing release, so we were holding out for 9.1. Since that is not

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-05 Thread david
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Dear Release Manager, as we discussed on IRC today (and which I had not realized until today) the 8.2.1 release will be pre-installed on XOs for much longer than anticipated, since the 9.1 release has been canceled, and no replacement is in sight.

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-05 Thread Ed McNierney
David - The 9.1 release was a very specific release planned for the first half of 2009 - see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0 for one set of details - following OLPC's stated plan of two major releases per calendar year. That specific event is not going to happen. That's not at all the

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-05 Thread david
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Ed McNierney wrote: The 9.1 release was a very specific release planned for the first half of 2009 - see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0 for one set of details - following OLPC's stated plan of two major releases per calendar year. That specific event is not going to

Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Dear Release Manager, as we discussed on IRC today (and which I had not realized until today) the 8.2.1 release will be pre-installed on XOs for much longer than anticipated, since the 9.1 release has been canceled, and no replacement is in sight. We have had fixed Etoys / Squeak-VM