Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Jim Gettys
I agree with Marco, no distro-wars, pretty, please. Where I sit, Ubuntu's advantages have decreased, rather than increased over the last couple years. Even Mark Shuttleworth, when I last chatted with him early this year, said it didn't make a significant difference. The wider Sugar and software

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know much about spirits, but AFAIHS, RedHat has contributed enormously to Sugar. Do we really know if a switch from RH to Canonical would have worked better? AFAIK before they tried to do the OLPC thing but eventually

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 18:21, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fedora

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57:45AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Ubuntu also seems a much better fit in spirit than RedHat. Agreed. xodist could easily be used, and the OLPC specific RPMs could be converted to .deb

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 11:02 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release cycle? at the very least it telegraphs the long-term support versions. Ubuntu also seems a much

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57:45AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Ubuntu also seems a much better fit in spirit than RedHat. Agreed. xodist could easily be used, and the OLPC specific RPMs could be converted to .deb with not a lot of effort. Launchpad could also offer some benefit in terms of

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release cycle? at the very

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread david
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: I agree with Marco, no distro-wars, pretty, please. Where I sit, Ubuntu's advantages have decreased, rather than increased over the last couple years. Even Mark Shuttleworth, when I last chatted with him early this year, said it didn't make a

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Ed McNierney
Marco - I think this is one of the important questions we should be discussing in the near term. I'm not advocating either for or against it, but simply that it is something we should consider seriously. That includes identifying all the consequences/implications of rebasing on F10,

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fedora

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fedora release which will be EOL'd[1] very soon after the OLPC release... Jeremy

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fedora

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Walter Bender
We went through this early on in the development of the OLPC software stack. It became clear that we were not far enough along to be able to settle in on RHEL. Maybe we'll be at that point after another turn or two of the crank. Maybe the XS will be there sooner. But too much is in flux. -walter

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, gtk 2.14 has some good stuff, would be nice to start to rebase on F10 ASAP so we don't have so much stress as with the F8 rebase. Once we decide to do this, we'll need to talk about who would do it -- for the F7 rebase we had J5, and then Dennis for F9, and it's not clear who could

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread david
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Walter Bender wrote: We went through this early on in the development of the OLPC software stack. It became clear that we were not far enough along to be able to settle in on RHEL. Maybe we'll be at that point after another turn or two of the crank. Maybe the XS will be

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:06 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: Yeah - the Fedora lifecycle does not end up being a good fit for us. There is no clear (supported) path to go from a Fedora (bleeding edge) release to a LTS path with RHEL or CentOS. Is there any hints as to how that could be

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 19:12 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: gtk 2.14 has some good stuff, would be nice to start to rebase on F10 ASAP so we don't have so much stress as with the F8 rebase. Once we decide to do this, we'll need to talk about who would do it -- for the F7 rebase we had J5,