Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM,  fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Just make sure you keep in mind the difference between the specification and what is likely to be acceptable.  One value is better suited to personal

Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM,  fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Just make sure you keep in mind the difference between the specification

Re: Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-16 Thread forster
Scott Thanks for your comments. As this is now more a discussion on education, I have copied to IAEP. Background for the IAEP list: Suggested experiments for using TurtleArt with external sensors are at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors The

Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-16 Thread John Watlington
In Tony's defense, he was reminding us to fix what was an acknowledged omission in XO-1 (the C3 motherboard which fixed it was never put into production). We never reflected the change in the 1.5 specs, causing further confusion. I apologize for accepting an 0402 for the current limiting

Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread John Watlington
This was done starting with the XO-1.5, and will also be done on the 1.75. Regards, wad On Nov 13, 2010, at 3:55 AM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I would like to make a request for a protection resistor between the microphone socket and the protection zener diode on the 1.75 so it can

Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread forster
This was done starting with the XO-1.5, and will also be done on the 1.75. thanks what is the allowable input voltage, i dont think its on the wiki? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread Ed McNierney
From the XO-1.5 hardware spec at http://wiki.laptop.org/images/f/f0/CL1B_Hdwe_Design_Spec.pdf 2.7.4 External Microphone Input A stereo jack is provided on the laptop for connecting an external microphone, switch, or other sensor. This jack is connected to the audio codec’s microphone input,

Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread John Watlington
The published XO-1.5 spec is very conservative. But unfortunately, layout concerns prevented me from providing too much protection. The parts used (1/16W) should protect up to 9V continuously, and up to higher voltages for shorter periods of time. With excessive voltage, the protective

Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread forster
From the XO-1.5 hardware spec at http://wiki.laptop.org/images/f/f0/CL1B_Hdwe_Design_Spec.pdf 2.7.4External Microphone Input . An external voltage applied to this input is limited to between 0 and 3.5 V. Inputs exceeding this range may cause excessive current to flow through a

Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread forster
The published XO-1.5 spec is very conservative. But unfortunately, layout concerns prevented me from providing too much protection. The parts used (1/16W) should protect up to 9V continuously, ignore previous mail, question answered thats +-9V?

Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread Ed McNierney
Just make sure you keep in mind the difference between the specification and what is likely to be acceptable. One value is better suited to personal tinkering, the other to widespread propagation. - Ed (who was disappointed to learn this weekend that Zener is not in the official

Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-15 Thread forster
Just make sure you keep in mind the difference between the specification and what is likely to be acceptable. One value is better suited to personal tinkering, the other to widespread propagation. Good point. As background to my questions Turtle Art 103 now supports sensor input.