Re: TuxPaint woes (John Gilmore)

2008-07-30 Thread Greg Smith
may need to revisit this after we put a stake in the ground on freezing 8.2.0 APIs. Thanks, Greg S Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:54:42 -0700 From: John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TuxPaint woes To: devel@lists.laptop.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] can't think

Stability (was Re: TuxPaint woes)

2008-07-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.07.2008, at 13:20, Greg Smith wrote: On when the code is stable and frozen enough to do final regression testing of activities: Michael, Can we track that as a milestone? Is that code freeze (a.k.a. package-level change control) which is targeted (pending confirmation e-mail) for

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: On the other hand, it would be rather trivial for activities which cared to check their dependencies in a adhoc fashion (by running rpm themselves if they wish) and by reporting errors if necessary dependencies are unsatisfied. This is far from trivial. Sure, I could do

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mikus Grinbergs writes: There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. I hope you've filed a bug to request that those libraries be put back. I could use libpaper as well; the

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread pgf
michael wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of continuing support for activities, What notion of support would you suggest? not breaking supplied interfaces without providing feedback to

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 08:04:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of continuing support for activities, What notion of support would you

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 20:56 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. What are the errors that you encounter? Do you know libmikmod is needed?

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread John Gilmore
can't think of a faster way to make developers give up on our platform as a lost cause. As someone whose year-long OLPC-specific project (SimCity) was broken by Sugar interface changes right before the 650 release, I can report that it was pretty disheartening. Both the sound and the running

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: I'll look into why SDL_mixer went away, and what it is used for... It's for audio. Reasons for use include: * Nicely compatible with other SDL stuff * Cross-platform (BeOS, MacOS X, Win95, Vista...) * Easy support for stereo positioning * Handles *.ogg files * Good enough

TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. Also, TuxPaint is not being checkpointed by Journal (and seems to start slower than it did on build 65x). I realize there is a

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:56:47PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: But should it be up to the Activity developers (or in this case, those who first fitted the software to Sugar) to keep supporting their submission as the Sugar/operating_system platform keeps evolving ? Who else would you propose?

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread pgf
michael wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:56:47PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: But should it be up to the Activity developers (or in this case, those who first fitted the software to Sugar) to keep supporting their submission as the Sugar/operating_system platform keeps evolving ?

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of continuing support for activities, What notion of support would you suggest? that we support the activities ourselves, As above. or that we need to provide an