We saw this issue in our work with the Cantagallo comunity school
here in Lima. Tuukka and Kaisa saw it in the teacher training they
attended, it seems to be very confusing for new users, who have
never used a touchpad before (they tend to touch the pad gently
and briefly, obtaining a click
BTW how do you disable it?
There is a thread about the subject currently on OLPC-Uruguay.
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-April/002075.html
Sebastian
2010/4/15 Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org
We saw this issue in our work with the Cantagallo comunity school
here
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
BTW how do you disable it?
Yeah -- can we disable it easily on F11 builds?
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On 15 April 2010 11:40, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
BTW how do you disable it?
Yeah -- can we disable it easily on F11 builds?
(speaking only for XO) No. We would have to change mouse
I have an old HP laptop with tap-to-click turned on by default when there's
no external mouse. It is annoying to be typing text and have your thumb
accidentally brush the touchpad and suddenly you're typing in a totally
different location in the text, wherever the mouse pointer happened to be
daniel wrote:
On 15 April 2010 11:40, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote:
BTW how do you disable it?
Yeah -- can we disable it easily on F11 builds?
(speaking only for XO) No. We
Paul -
This issue has bubbled up from time to time over the last 18 months or so
(judging from my email archives). It is not at all clear to me that there is
indeed a consensus from deployments; some like it, some don't. We tend to
(unsurprisingly) hear little or nothing from the people who
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote:
Paul -
This issue has bubbled up from time to time over the last 18 months or so
(judging from my email archives). It is not at all clear to me that there is
indeed a consensus from deployments; some like it, some don't.
Richard -
I have a specific recollection of folks in Rwanda liking it. But my bigger
concern is that we've shipped an awful lot of these with very few reported
complaints. I just don't know what that means. It may well be that most folks
don't like it, but I don't think we know. As they
Hi Ed,
Our friends and volunteers Tuukka and Kaisa are currently in Pucallpa
working
with the teachers and kids. They probably havent seen this thread but this
issue
has popped up often here too and I wonder what you might think constitutes
consensus from deployments.
Also, the larger issue of
Sebastian -
No, you're quite right - it's hard. And it's hard to tell whether most users
are silent because they're happy with it, or they're silent because they don't
even realize that they have a choice.
- Ed
On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote:
Hi Ed,
Our
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Richard Smith smithb...@gmail.com wrote:
Who are the ones that like it? I don't remember any good feedback.
+1
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Tuukaa -
I don't quite see how you can make statements like the OLPC project is not in
close contact with the field. How do you know that? We *do* get many reports
from deployment teams that represent hundreds of thousands of children, and try
to collect and communicate that feedback
On 04/15/2010 01:52 PM, Ed McNierney wrote:
We'd really like to see a *memo* about the *decision* that was made
to change the default functioning of the touchpad to tap-to-click!
Someone recognized the change in time, someone didn't assign enough
importance to it to fix it in time.
I did.
tuukka wrote:
Further, the deployment teams *cannot* represent the children. They
should strive to, but there is no substitute for going out on the field
and seeing with your own trained eyes.
while your point is well taken, the fact remains that no one but
the deployment teams is in a
Hello OLPC!
Glad to have your attention!
Now while we do, it might be a good time to discuss ways to improve
the way we can provide feedback. Please don't let our past and constant
frustration with OLPC taint the very fact that we are volunteers trying to
help OLPC's mission.
It is no secret
Hi everyone,
Ed McNierney escribió:
No, you're quite right - it's hard. And it's hard to tell whether most
users are silent because they're happy with it, or they're silent
because they don't even realize that they have a choice.
It's very easy to tell: the OLPC project is not in close
Dear Edd,
Ed McNierney escribió:
Tuukaa -
Thanks for your prompt reply, although it doesn't address the points of
our report. We'd appreciate another one that did. Meanwhile, your reply
demonstrates more general problems in the OLPC project, which would be
worth solving as well.
I don't
Incidentally, I think it's important to distinguish between palm
detection and tap to click.
In my experience, most users who are used to tap to click, expect it
-- and get frustrated when it doesn't work. On the other hand, I've
been using a litl webbook with tap to click enabled since leaving
Just wanted to communicate an experience from the deployment here:
A while back, we (OLPC + community) discussed the behaviour of the new
XO touchpads which have tap-to-click on by default. We debated
including the fairly large software changes to be able to disable this
functionality with the
I can only relate personal experience ... yes, it caught me by surprise
quite a few times in the past few days.
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On 22.10.2009, at 14:01, James Cameron wrote:
I can only relate personal experience ... yes, it caught me by
surprise
quite a few times in the past few days.
Me too - e.g., in TamTamMini it's easy to accidentally touch the pad
while hammering on the keys.
- Bert -
Daniel Drake wrote:
Really I think the biggest issue is that they
press it by accident while typing or making other motions and have no
idea why the screen has changed significantly (they don't understand
that it's because they clicked, or that their hand was near the pad).
Normally,
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 02:40:04PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 22.10.2009, at 14:01, James Cameron wrote:
I can only relate personal experience ... yes, it caught me by
surprise
quite a few times in the past few days.
Me too - e.g., in TamTamMini it's easy to accidentally
benjamin m. schwartz wrote:
Daniel Drake wrote:
Really I think the biggest issue is that they
press it by accident while typing or making other motions and have no
idea why the screen has changed significantly (they don't understand
that it's because they clicked, or that their hand
Hi,
so: to eliminate tap-to-click, someone needs to build a new
kernel with the synaptics driver enabled (maybe just the module
can be built), then they need to figure out how to make it all
work well.
I might be wrong, but I think we just need the X driver -- yum install
2009/10/22 Chris Ball c...@laptop.org:
I might be wrong, but I think we just need the X driver -- yum install
xorg-x11-drv-synaptics. Xorg drivers are generally not layered on top
of kernel drivers, outside of the case of DRI.
Didn't work for me:
we tried the synaptics driver initially (when we got the new
touchpads) but by itself it caused extremely erratic (perhaps not
erratic, exactly, but just way-too-fast) mouse cursor behavior.
There seems to be something wrong with general Linux mouse behavior.
Even on ordinary optical mice
On Oct 22 2009, at 13:10, Chris Ball was caught saying:
Hi,
so: to eliminate tap-to-click, someone needs to build a new
kernel with the synaptics driver enabled (maybe just the module
can be built), then they need to figure out how to make it all
work well.
I might be
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:46:30AM -0700, John Gilmore wrote:
There seems to be something wrong with general Linux mouse behavior.
I felt this as well on Debian in the past few months ... I couldn't fix
it easily, ended up disabling the new kernel based input feature.
I *think* this is all I
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