Re: Get involved - Measure Activity on the XO

2008-04-10 Thread Arjun Sarwal
Wait! Can we share Measure data between laptops and combine the streams? -- Exactly! (Im working on it, however patch submissions and developmental help most welcome) Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] One Laptop Per Child -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching

Re: Chilling Effects paper at USENIX UPSEC

2008-04-10 Thread John Gilmore
4. It is unfortunate that a respected conference did not do a better job at vetting this paper. The conference is a small USENIX workshop (Usability, Psychology and Security). USENIX workshops generally involve fewer than 100 participants, more timely work, and less pre-publication peer

#6864 updated w/ new error logs

2008-04-10 Thread Bryan Berry
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6864 successfully reproduced the error and have uploaded all the log files and output errors I could. hope this helps. So far I am having a lot of issues w/ 703, I don't recommend it for Update.1 release. 702 had a lot less issues Bryan OLE Nepal Kathmandu

Re: #6864 updated w/ new error logs

2008-04-10 Thread Bryan Berry
I take back my criticisms of 703. looks like the problems stemmed from a corrupted .olpc.store/ directory on my usb key. same usb key caused same problem on 702 On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 13:04 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6864 successfully reproduced the error and have

Re: [Server-devel] Transfers between xo and school-server

2008-04-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, 2008/4/8 Robson Mendonça [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Could you please copy it to wiki.laptop.org? Yep! I did it. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/AMADIS Thanks! What do you mean by update the XO through the web? You mean http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-update ? Yep again. I don't know if

Re: how to let activities write to file without risking security

2008-04-10 Thread Charles Merriam
FYI, this might crop up. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Bitfrost#org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied Basically, don't choose the solution of making both users have the same uid. -- Charles Merriam On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:24 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At OLE Nepal we need

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Charles Merriam
Thanks for formalising this, I would also strongly suggest that the organisation is moved to the far right, and that we get rid of year. component major minor bugfix organisation I strongly suggest we keep the year. Yes, really, OLPC should release new software at least once per year. It

New joyride build 1852

2008-04-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1852 Changes in build 1852 from build: 1850 Size delta: 0.00M -loudmouth 1.2.3-2.fc7 +loudmouth 1.3.4-1.olpc2 --- Changes for loudmouth 1.3.4-1.olpc2 from 1.2.3-2.fc7 --- + New upstream version for joyride -- This mail was

New faster build 1852

2008-04-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1852 Changes in build 1852 from build: 1850 Size delta: 0.13M -loudmouth 1.2.3-2.fc7 +loudmouth 1.3.4-1.olpc2 --- Changes for loudmouth 1.3.4-1.olpc2 from 1.2.3-2.fc7 --- + New upstream version for joyride -- This mail was

Re: Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia

2008-04-10 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday we had a mini-sprint with argentinian pythonistas and we discussed Alecu's CDPedia which is a Python toolchain that does are good job of cutting a slice of wikipedia and cutting off the least interesting

Re: Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia

2008-04-10 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice to see a python toolchain for this (though I don't see any code at that url?) They exist in other languages as well. We've been working with Linterweb's Kiwix (kiwix.org) and the Schools-Wikipedia, which use their

Re: Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia

2008-04-10 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola, Alecu. ¿Como esta? Hola Edu, muy bien, muchas gracias. ¿Como estás vos? Is there a design spec for CDPedia? Yes, but it's mostly in spanish. But I see you may have no problem with it! ;-)

Re: Cutting a slice of wikipedia - CDPedia

2008-04-10 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
Hi SJ, On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see the auto-selection code; I don't find it in the trunk atm. We played with some sample code, and have a bunch of ideas on the design docs, but the auto-selection is not finished yet. I do see hints of

Re: Chilling Effects paper at USENIX UPSEC

2008-04-10 Thread John Watlington
The most represive school systems we have been talking to have been the ones in the U.S.They even claim that they have a legal obligation to break internet access on the laptop everywhere but the school, to ensure compliance with the law. I personally configured the server to not log IP

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Charles Merriam wrote: Thanks for formalising this, I would also strongly suggest that the organisation is moved to the far right, and that we get rid of year. component major minor bugfix organisation I strongly suggest we keep the year. Yes, really, OLPC

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 10:32 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Charles Merriam wrote: Thanks for formalising this, I would also strongly suggest that the organisation is moved to the far right, and that we get rid of year. component major minor bugfix

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/4/10 Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How about a two digit (zero-padded) version number that started with 08? The release date is data that belongs elsewhere -- and it's not accurate, a long-term- What you need is the critical information when you are deciding whether to install/update

XENified images for XO

2008-04-10 Thread Marcus Leech
Has anyone done any work on building XENified images for XO? I'm interested in this for building a large-scale virtualized XO environment for testing purposes. The other option is to run the XO image in HVM mode, but that limits which processors I can use to host such a thing. Cheers --

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Charles Merriam
Do you expect to make a major change to the API more than once per year? Would you like major changes to the server API to release contemporaneously with other components? Do you want subtle, minor changes to the API made over a year ago to be the cause of difficult to diagnose problems? Do you

Re: XENified images for XO

2008-04-10 Thread Charles Merriam
There's been some talk about building for multiple platforms: Aside from the XO-1 hardware, various other builds with advocates include Linux builds: Ubuntu (widely used for Actitivies development), Fedora 7 jh-build variant (widely used for OS and systems development), Gentoo, Cebian,

cat-leases script to join leases files

2008-04-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
Attached you'll find a trivial script to concat-and-sort various lease files. This makes life easier for regional teams that deal with various shipments. Usage: cat-leases.pl */lease.sig all_leases.sig do we have a random-grabbag-o'scripts git repo where this would belong? cheers,

Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

2008-04-10 Thread mbletsas
I doesn't seem that this is a firmware issue then. M - Original Message - From: Zarro Boogs per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/10/2008 09:03 PM GMT Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Samuel Klein
Agreed. The date doesn't need to be in the build #, and only makes it longer. And I don't know how meaningful it is to have a build named OLPC -- as noted a few times, we are building more than one thing. If anything, that should be a clarifier at the end noting that OLPC was the 'customizer' of

Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

2008-04-10 Thread mbletsas
Yes, starting from .p8 is what we should do now. . - Original Message - From: Zarro Boogs per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/10/2008 09:16 PM GMT Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
Redundancy is not bad. There are people who care about year (it is far easier to remember that the last time I updated was 2 years ago, than remember the build number then) and they should have something to hold on to. I vote including the year in addition to whatever else, but not using it to

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/4/10 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Redundancy is not bad. There are people who care about year (it is far easier to remember that the last time I updated was 2 years ago, than remember the build number then) and they should have something to hold on to. I vote including the year

Re: [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked at all 3 docs and they look good have some comments 1. Who is in charge of Sugar? the team lead. I remember that Blizzard used to be the team lead. Is it JG now? Actually, is there a way to find out who

Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

2008-04-10 Thread mbletsas
And what happens if we go one revision back? M - Original Message - From: Zarro Boogs per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/10/2008 09:03 PM GMT Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-10 Thread Carol Lerche
Thank you for sharing this discussion. Upon reading it I had two questions. *Sugar.* I have seen offers on this list from a class ofuniversity graduate students to do usability testing. Maybe someone responded to them privately. (That would have been perfectly appropriate.) But in reading

Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

2008-04-10 Thread Ricardo Carrano
M, Release 22p6 is not affected. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what happens if we go one revision back? M - Original Message - From: Zarro Boogs per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/10/2008 09:03 PM GMT Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #6869

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-10 Thread Ricardo Carrano
I second Carol's pragmatic approach. What we should do is to use access points in schools whenever possible. The mesh network was not designed to compete with infra-structure. It was designed to be used when there is no infra-structure. That being said, I will keep repeating myself that

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/4/10 Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I second Carol's pragmatic approach. What we should do is to use access points in schools whenever possible. The mesh network was not designed to compete with infra-structure. It was designed to be used when there is no infra-structure. Don't worry

Re: [OLPC library] Lieutenant Governor Pat Quinn on HB5000

2008-04-10 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
There was been strong Etoys experiment going in Illinois, especially at Columbia College and UIUC. I don't know how much olpc-chicago overlaps with that group, but it would be nice to be able to say that we already have been doing the test of (a part of) software long time in the state. --

Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

2008-04-10 Thread John Watlington
Yeah, in testing today, 22.p8 was failing amazingly in school mesh mode. I'm writing up and posting the logs/traces. I'll announce them when done. wad On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Ricardo Carrano wrote: M, Release 22p6 is not affected. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL

Re: [OLPC library] Lieutenant Governor Pat Quinn on HB5000

2008-04-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was been strong Etoys experiment going in Illinois, especially at Columbia College and UIUC. Excellent. Can you point us to some groups or individuals, or published documents, or whatever? I don't know how much