Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
n Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Michael: This feels very similar to an RFC. GS - Its not meant to be an RFC I think Michael was just suggesting a time-saving device: you defined should, must, etc, and there's a common standard for that kind of

Re: Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:47, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 04:42, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any follow-up on the idea of having a precise list of maintainers for all Sugar activities? Even just the email address from the git repo would be nice.

sticking ctrl and alt keys cont...

2008-08-02 Thread Chris Marshall
A quick note on my experiences with joyride-2228 on my sister's G1G1 XO. She was running 703 before I convinced her to update to joyride for the new user interface. She really likes that but she now has the problem of sticking control key. Given that the problem only started on the OS +

Re: odd yum dependency issues in joyride

2008-08-02 Thread pgf
c. scott ananian wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been slowly moving my g1g1 machine forward to joyride (from 656). i had customized it quite a bit, and am trying to restore those changes. i've got xfce running, but a couple of yum dependencies

RE: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

2008-08-02 Thread J.M. Maurer
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 13:10 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: Hi everyone, I'm perfectly willing to do this work but how I can be sure it will actually be used? What do we need to do to get libabiword updated? sugar-jhbuild uses an ancient patched tree dating from November last

Re: Libertas thinmac/hostmode driver for Joyride kernels

2008-08-02 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:22:51 -0700 Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Cozybit has been working on new thinmac firmware for the Libertas chip that allows use of the chip in hostmode and I've built it against our Joyride kernels so that others can play around with it and provide

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Shikhar
My only question is whether this should be @lists.laptop.org or @lists.sugarlabs.org. Please comment, or I will make it the latter by default. I think the latter makes sense, activities are meant to work with Sugar and not the XO in particular. Shikhar

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
G1G1, Joyride 2241. In one Terminal session started mplayer -- it was playing a movie. Went to another Terminal session, and entered some commands. Noticed that not all of the text on that screen was equally distinct - some of it was paler than others. Noticed that *which* text was paler

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-02 Thread NoiseEHC
It is the video chip's feature that it can display a video overlay over the RGB bitmap. The pixels where the overlay can be seen is defined by a colorkey (what was 0xFF00FF in the example), or the alpha component of the display RGB bitmap (not used on the XO since the change 16 bit bitmaps).

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
Morgan Collett writes: We didn't get to discuss this activity developers' mailing list at the Sugar meetings. However I've had no negative feedback. If anyone is opposed to this list, please speak up quickly and loudly. Otherwise I will get it created in the next week, publicize it and

New faster build 2244

2008-08-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2244 Changes in build 2244 from build: 2242 Size delta: 0.13M -sugar 0.81.8-1.fc9 +sugar 0.81.8-1.1.fc9 -sugar-artwork 0.81.3-1.olpc3 +sugar-artwork 0.81.3-1.1.fc9 --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-1.1.fc9 from 0.81.8-1.fc9 --- + Local

Re: status of 8.1.1 and now 8.1.2 ?

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
8.1.2 may be used for the next G1G1 factory image but that's not final yet either. #6532 is a blocking bug against the next G1G1 release which is not fixed in 709. It is considered by G1G1 donors who have commented in that ticket to be NOT SUITABLE for mass distribution to G1G1. Michael

Re: Network, neighborhood view, and the emulator.

2008-08-02 Thread Ton van Overbeek
On 8/2/08, Alejandro Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, is it possible to browse the neighborhood witn the OLPC emulator (on qemu) to discover other XOs and emulated XOs? (over a wi-fi network) My first attempt showed me an empty neighborhood view on the emulated XO altough the

Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

2008-08-02 Thread J.M. Maurer
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 16:47 +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote: What version is actually being shipped with sucrose? What do we need to do to get it updated? Someone should just update jhbuild... i could do that when i find some spare time and motivaten; feel free to beat me to it. Updated

Re: Terminals

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 07:32:11PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: | Is it possible that we could | simply have a P_ROOT permission as well, or does that blow Bitfrost out of | the water? 1. According to my reading of

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Bastien
Shikhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My only question is whether this should be @lists.laptop.org or @lists.sugarlabs.org. Please comment, or I will make it the latter by default. I think the latter makes sense, activities are meant to work with Sugar and not the XO in particular.

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Bastien
Let's say that the list will be used for: - announce new activities - announce changes in ownership - check for dead/agonizing/orphaned activities - discuss API and dependancies issues - ... I think there are many reasons to get such a list. Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the

Re: Terminals

2008-08-02 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
As you can see, the present security difficulties stem from the lack of effort spent on recording user intentions about what permissions should be applied to what activities. Signatures do absolutely nothing to address this problem -- they only permit an as-yet undesigned system interpreter

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bastien wrote: | - announce new activities | - announce changes in ownership | - check for dead/agonizing/orphaned activities | - discuss API and dependancies issues All of these things are perfect for [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are precisely what

Re: Terminals

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 03:03:24PM -0600, Jameson Chema Quinn wrote: As you can see, the present security difficulties stem from the lack of effort spent on recording user intentions about what permissions should be applied to what activities. Signatures do absolutely nothing to address this

New joyride build 2245

2008-08-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2245 Changes in build 2245 from build: 2241 Size delta: 0.00M -olpc-utils 0.81-1.olpc3 +olpc-utils 0.82-1.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs

Re: Terminals

2008-08-02 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
As above, hashes can be computed on the unpacked activity bundles. No modification to the bundle format is necessary; moreover, why would you ever rely on the correctness of a manifest supplied by the bundle itself? The current manifest format hashes everything in a directory. That includes

New faster build 2245

2008-08-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2245 Changes in build 2245 from build: 2244 Size delta: 7.34M -olpc-utils 0.81-1.olpc3 +olpc-utils 0.82-1.olpc3 +gnome-icon-theme 2.22.0-6.fc9 --- Included gnome-icon-theme version 2.22.0-6.fc9 --- -- This mail was automatically

Re: Terminals

2008-08-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
Look, there is no reason to care about hashes. What is the fear here, that the jffs2 filesystem will fail? We have pathnames. Permissions are granted by the user. The only exception is when the OS is initially installed, or when the whole OS is upgraded. Permissions are tied to an inode. Since

faster - NOT if one tries to 'rotate'

2008-08-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Booted faster 2344 (manually upgraded from 2343). In Sugar, pressed 'rotate' button. XO screen went white, no controls worked except for holding the power button down for four seconds -- to power off. mikus ___ Devel mailing list

Re: faster - NOT if one tries to 'rotate'

2008-08-02 Thread Gary C Martin
On 2 Aug 2008, at 22:59, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Booted faster 2344 (manually upgraded from 2343). In Sugar, pressed 'rotate' button. XO screen went white, no controls worked except for holding the power button down for four seconds -- to power off. Yea, this was reported a week or so ago,

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
It is the video chip's feature that it can display a video overlay over the RGB bitmap. The pixels where the overlay can be seen is defined by a colorkey (what was 0xFF00FF in the example), or the alpha component of the display RGB bitmap (not used on the XO since the change 16 bit bitmaps).

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 05:10:54PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bastien wrote: | - announce new activities | - announce changes in ownership | - check for dead/agonizing/orphaned activities | - discuss API and dependancies issues All

Re: [Localization] Arabic Projects

2008-08-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Nicholas Bodley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed Jul 30 7:17 , Walter Bender sent: Welcome to the project. Localization is more that string translation. In particular, there is work to be done to improve the RTL rendering in Sugar. Do you know of any Python

How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Eben wrote: There has been lots of confusion about the difference between mesh and APs. They're really not the same at all, apart from the fact that they both depend on the radio. The new design no longer treats the mesh channels as objects in the Neighborhood view. Instead, there will be

New joyride build 2246

2008-08-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2246 Changes in build 2246 from build: 2245 Size delta: 0.00M -rainbow 0.7.17-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.18-1.fc9 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

Re: New joyride build 2246

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 11:50:59PM -0400, Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2246 Changes in build 2246 from build: 2245 Size delta: 0.00M -rainbow 0.7.17-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.18-1.fc9 This build partially resolves the original #6797 issue but is

New faster build 2246

2008-08-02 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2246 Changes in build 2246 from build: 2245 Size delta: 0.00M -rainbow 0.7.17-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.18-1.fc9 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/faster-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

Re: New joyride build 2246

2008-08-02 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 12:00:18AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: If anyone knows how to get rainbow to stop when X dies; please speak up! Yes, up! I've looked at rainbow on 2228 and 2246. I've looked at the process with strace and lsof, and at the source on the XO, and it appears that rainbow

[Server-devel] [PATCH] xs-rsync: The README says it all

2008-08-02 Thread martin . langhoff
From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- README | 105 1 files changed, 105 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 README diff --git a/README b/README new file mode 100644 index 000..95c9a53 --- /dev/null +++ b/README @@

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:42:58PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Scott and Michael raised the question of why we didn't build it as a .xo only project with no need for server. I explained the constraints of time and image in Uruguay and they understood that. There were less convinced that it should

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

2008-08-02 Thread Carol Lerche
Michael, how did you envision publishing a blog on the Internet without the use of a server? The kids are using the write activity to compose their posts. I'm confused by your comment. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:42:58PM

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 12:45:24PM -0700, Carol Lerche wrote: Michael, how did you envision publishing a blog on the Internet without the use of a server? The kids are using the write activity to compose their posts. I'm confused by your comment. Carol, I'm sorry I confused you. I envisioned

Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

2008-08-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stated most clearly in Scott's Network Principles document. The principle outlined there is interesting, but we are slowly trying to prove it is also workable. So I would not task Tarun with delivering something usable to Uy