spell checking in activities (was Re: xo activity idea)
Yifan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had an idea for an activity, something like a write activity with a constantly updating spell checker that displayed spelling suggestions as you typed Which raises the question: What happened to the spell checking that used to be in the Write and Browse activities? Trac bugs 5394 and 6099 suggest Write and Browse used to spell check but did not have a context menu for alternatives. Now on my XO running 8.2.0 neither highlights mis-spelled words. Is it intentional the feature went away in both? The only spell checking application on my 8.2.0 XO is Firefox, using its own local en-US dictionaries and a personal dictionary in ~/isolation/blah/.mozilla. I believe the underlying libraries for all three activities use the same Hunspell engine and could share a common dictionary (Trac 6104). Bastien wrote: When designing a spell-checker, we should keep in mind that the spell-checker should always suggest correct spellings, and never underline errors. I disagree. I think the standard red dots spell checking that AbiWord and Firefox do is extremely useful. Regards, -- =S Page ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: spell checking in activities
S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bastien wrote: When designing a spell-checker, we should keep in mind that the spell-checker should always suggest correct spellings, and never underline errors. I disagree. I think the standard red dots spell checking that AbiWord and Firefox do is extremely useful. It might seem extremely useful for adults who already know how to spell words, who only do typos. But it is misleading for children who *learn* how to spell; it exposes their memory do the wrong spelling. If you're interested, I will try to provide pointers to some cognitive researches. Regards, -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2577
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2577 Changes in build 2577 from build: 2575 Size delta: 0.00M -xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.5.3-5.olpc4.1 +xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.5.3-5.fc10 -xorg-x11-server-common 1.5.3-5.olpc4.1 +xorg-x11-server-common 1.5.3-5.fc10 --- Changes for xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.5.3-5.fc10 from 1.5.3-5.olpc4.1 --- + Hide mouse cursor until a cursor is selected + Fix EXA CopyArea rendering bugs --- Changes for xorg-x11-server-common 1.5.3-5.fc10 from 1.5.3-5.olpc4.1 --- + Hide mouse cursor until a cursor is selected + Fix EXA CopyArea rendering bugs -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
OLPC France CodeCamp 25/11 Report
Hi all, You could find on http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php?title=CodeCampReport the detail report (including photo video) for the OLPC France CodeCamp held on 25 November in Paris. The purpose of this first OLPC France CodeCamp was to deeply explore the OLPC project, Sugar and the XO. During this intense day, the 40 attendees have been able to learn all what they need to know to be able to contribute to the project. * The learning workshop was dedicated to draft the requirements for a french version of WikiBrowse and to assess the possibility of doing animation movies with the XO. * The translation workshop was dedicated to the translation of the FLOSS Manual. * The School Server workshop was dedicated to the network configuration of low-power platforms. * The Sugar workshop gathered people around the development of a Mind Mapping activity and around video integration. * The Mono workshop let people write development tutorials about designing Sugar Activity for C#/Mono developers. Thanks to all the participants. Lionel. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Emulating 8.2-767
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: (*) Now to the hoops: * I started with the 767/ext3 image from http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ * extended to 2 GB by appending /dev/zero (jffs2 compression gives roughly 2 GB too) * enlarged the partition to full 2 GB (using fdisk and ext2resize) Hi, I want to try this with virtualbox. I can't seem to get the disk image size extension working. Can you share the actual commands you used to do this? Thanks! Dave * mounted that in a Fedora 10 virtual machine * copied over the F10 kernel, initrd, and modules (olpc kernel wanted AMD instructions) * edited grub.conf to use that kernel * and appended a root=/dev/sda1 kernel arg (the fedora kernel wants to use LVM otherwise) * unmounted * created new virtual machine (that disk, 1 CPU, 256 MB RAM, NAT networking) * booted into that new system * installed Perl (for vmware tools installer) * installed vmware tools (to get the X driver) (but none of the kernel modules, would need make/gcc/etc.) * deleted Perl (to restore the default sw environment) * copied the existing xorg-vmware.conf to xorg.conf (to get 1200x900 resolution w/ 200 dpi) * booted into Sugar (looks really nice so scaled down) * installed activities (took a long time, maybe it's my DSL) * tested a bit * rm -r ~olpc/.sugar (to remove my personal data) * should have deleted sshd host keys, too, but didn't * shut down * zip * upload * ... * ... * ... * still no profit? ;) Enjoy. And maybe remove some of the obstacles in future releases (a disk image with headroom and a standard kernel would be simple to do and go a long way). - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Dave Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Emulating 8.2-767
On 06.12.2008, at 16:19, Dave Bauer wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (*) Now to the hoops: * I started with the 767/ext3 image from http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ * extended to 2 GB by appending /dev/zero (jffs2 compression gives roughly 2 GB too) * enlarged the partition to full 2 GB (using fdisk and ext2resize) Hi, I want to try this with virtualbox. I can't seem to get the disk image size extension working. Can you share the actual commands you used to do this? Off the top of my head ... dd if=/dev/zero bs=1048576 count=1234 os.img (don't remember actual count) put os.img as /dev/sdb in the F10 VM fdisk /dev/sdb set units to B (bytes), print old partion table, note old start, delete first and only partition, make new partition from old start to 100%, write, quit ext2resize /dev/sdb1 - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Emulating 8.2-767
On 06.12.2008, at 16:49, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 06.12.2008, at 16:19, Dave Bauer wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (*) Now to the hoops: * I started with the 767/ext3 image from http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ * extended to 2 GB by appending /dev/zero (jffs2 compression gives roughly 2 GB too) * enlarged the partition to full 2 GB (using fdisk and ext2resize) Hi, I want to try this with virtualbox. I can't seem to get the disk image size extension working. Can you share the actual commands you used to do this? Off the top of my head ... dd if=/dev/zero bs=1048576 count=1234 os.img (don't remember actual count) put os.img as /dev/sdb in the F10 VM fdisk /dev/sdb set units to B (bytes), print old partion table, note old start, delete first and only partition, make new partition from old start to 100%, write, quit ext2resize /dev/sdb1 Forgot to mention - I tried parted first but it refused to resize the partition, so I had to go with the scary fdisk delete way. Btw, if I had to do it again I'd start with an image that already has the activities installed: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/gg-767-4/ - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New joyride build 2577 [glyph truncation]
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2577 Changes in build 2577 from build: 2575 Size delta: 0.00M -xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.5.3-5.olpc4.1 +xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.5.3-5.fc10 -xorg-x11-server-common 1.5.3-5.olpc4.1 +xorg-x11-server-common 1.5.3-5.fc10 The olpc4.1 build included my fix for text truncation problems, but I dropped it because I can no longer reproduce the problem on stock F10 RPMs. Can anyone else upgrade to this build and confirm that the fonts still look OK? Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: spell checking in activities
Please provide the pointers if you would be so kind. I don't think spell checkers of either type are likely to be used for early writers. When young children are taught to write (when learning to write and read) in US classrooms, they are encouraged not to obsess over the spelling of each word. Rather they are concentrating on writing their ideas, making compositions that have good structure and descriptions, using sight words and other words they already know and sounding out words they don't know and writing these phonetic creative spellings. Gradually more and more correct spellings are taught as their literacy improves. English has too many words that don't follow rules, so if writing were deferred until spelling of each word could be perfect, young children would not be able to write substantive compositions until later grades. No doubt other languages are taught differently. I think a spell checker would be counterproductive in an early literacy context because when spell checkers offer alternative words the misspelling needs to be close to the correct word. I suggest that the OLPC educational consultants be queried as to their advice about the best form for a spell checker. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bastien wrote: When designing a spell-checker, we should keep in mind that the spell-checker should always suggest correct spellings, and never underline errors. I disagree. I think the standard red dots spell checking that AbiWord and Firefox do is extremely useful. It might seem extremely useful for adults who already know how to spell words, who only do typos. But it is misleading for children who *learn* how to spell; it exposes their memory do the wrong spelling. If you're interested, I will try to provide pointers to some cognitive researches. Regards, -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Don't think for a minute that power concedes. We have to work like our future depends on it. -- Barack Obama ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2578
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2578 Changes in build 2578 from build: 2577 Size delta: 0.00M -pygobject2 2.15.4-3.fc10 +pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 --- Changes for pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 from 2.15.4-3.fc10 --- + Experimental; fix PySignal_SetWakeupFd() semantics to reduce wakeups -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New joyride build 2578
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2578 Changes in build 2578 from build: 2577 Size delta: 0.00M -pygobject2 2.15.4-3.fc10 +pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 --- Changes for pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 from 2.15.4-3.fc10 --- + Experimental; fix PySignal_SetWakeupFd() semantics to reduce wakeups Is there an upstream bug for this? Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New joyride build 2578
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -pygobject2 2.15.4-3.fc10 +pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 --- Changes for pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 from 2.15.4-3.fc10 --- + Experimental; fix PySignal_SetWakeupFd() semantics to reduce wakeups Is there an upstream bug for this? Working downstream at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4680 and upstream at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481569 and before you ask about the temporary python fork coming in the next build, the upstream bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475005 :) Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Add Fedora logo to Sugar
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:26, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/12/6 Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:05, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, why? It is, after all, a installation of RedHat's _Fedora_ OS (albiet with OLPC modifications). To put it succinctly, actually, fedora is a distribution of GNU+Linux, a free operating system. Specifically, out of GNU+Linux, the Linux bit represents less than 1%. This is more of a religious war as well as a matter of preference; RH has chosen the Linux branding, while Debian (the only widely popular distro to do so) uses the GNU/ prefix. In a more reconciliatory note, perhaps a swarm of logos might emerge, as bemasc suggested to me on our XO Chat: GNU, Linux, fedora, python, and all the rest of the pack. Hm... we could have a link in the about my XO section that opens up a page in browse that describes all the components that make up the starch stack. -lf ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Add Fedora logo to Sugar
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:37, Simon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:18:39 -0500 Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised that our main UI metaphor - a CHILD, the center of activities... a Symbol for Interacting and Sharing... would be restricted for our use as a community movement. Personally I am very supprised that the 'XO' child symbol would be limited in such a way. Do we have an offical word on this. But now we're expected to embed another Copyrighted, Trademarked logo, that carries no meaning or significance for our target audience, nor any possible use in the user interface. Any branding should be contained within optional packages (maybe which are distribution specific) so that they can be completely removed if need be. It would be trivial to create a index page, similar to the existing library indexer, which stitched together all of the component packages information. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New joyride build 2578
-pygobject2 2.15.4-3.fc10 +pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 --- Changes for pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 from 2.15.4-3.fc10 --- + Experimental; fix PySignal_SetWakeupFd() semantics to reduce wakeups Is there an upstream bug for this? Working downstream at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4680 and upstream at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481569 and before you ask about the temporary python fork coming in the next build, the upstream bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475005 :) Thanks Daniel, I've added it to the tracking bug :) Cheers, Pete ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Add Fedora logo to Sugar
2008/12/6 Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To put it succinctly, actually, fedora is a distribution of GNU+Linux, a free operating system. Specifically, out of GNU+Linux, the Linux bit represents less than 1%. This is more of a religious war as well as a matter of preference; RH has chosen the Linux branding, while Debian (the only widely popular distro to do so) uses the GNU/ prefix. Yes, companies do that sort of thing with branding because of marketing. Still question remains, are you trying to be descriptive (this is what you're running) or attribute credit (these are the guys who made what you're running)? In either case, it could be argued fedora is not the optimal choice. Hm... we could have a link in the about my XO section that opens up a page in browse that describes all the components that make up the starch stack. Sure, only I'm pretty sure this is not what RedHat had in mind. -- Sebastian Silva Iniciativa FuenteLibre http://blog.sebastiansilva.com/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Add Fedora logo to Sugar
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:45, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hm... we could have a link in the about my XO section that opens up a page in browse that describes all the components that make up the starch stack. Sure, only I'm pretty sure this is not what RedHat had in mind. Maybe not, but I am sure that we (or they) can produce something that satisfies all interested parties, explaining how great the Fedora distro is etc. while also giving credit to upstream. -lf ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Add Fedora logo
On 06.12.2008, at 17:49, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Add Fedora logo to Sugar This is, I think, a misunderstanding. Yes it is. I set reply-to to OLPC-devel, this does not concern Suagr. Kim says Sugar is supposed to include a fedora logo (they will provide), on the home screen and in the boot up text. If you look at the Visibility Guidelines document included in the bug, it contains two images, one of which shows the Fedora logo next to the bootup text, and one of which shows the Fedora logo next to the XO man in the ring. I suspect Kim's statement is based on these two images. I think Kim interpreted this to be the bootup screen and the home screen, but from my reading of the text, both images are meant to refer to the pre-X bootup sequence. One is text-mode boot, and the other is pretty boot. This is consistent with what I've understood from conversations with Greg and others: Fedora's branding will appear only during the boot sequence, which is not part of Glucose at all. In other words: don't worry about it. This has nothing to do with you. I could be wrong, of course, in which case I think we should simply let distributions patch as they please. It seems awfully silly for the Debian packages to be Fedora-branded. You are not wrong. The agreement linked to in the bug report clearly states that the Fedora branding is to be shown *during the boot process. Not after. I have added this to the bug report, but please someone more priviledged change the bug description: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8767 - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
joyride 2578 does not boot on my XO
The error I get is: File /usr/bin/sugar-session, line 30, in module import gconf ImportError: could not import gobject: (error was '/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/glib/_glib.so: undefined symbol: PySignal_SetWakeupFd') mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2579
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2579 Changes in build 2579 from build: 2578 Size delta: 0.00M -python 2.5.2-1.fc10 +python 2.5.2-1.olpc4.1 -python-libs 2.5.2-1.fc10 +python-libs 2.5.2-1.olpc4.1 --- Changes for python 2.5.2-1.olpc4.1 from 2.5.2-1.fc10 --- + Add real version of PySignal_SetWakeupFd() patch + Beta release of new API + fix bug with l10n categories files + Marco needs to write a real ChangeLog! + Marco needs to write a real ChangeLog! --- Changes for python-libs 2.5.2-1.olpc4.1 from 2.5.2-1.fc10 --- + Add real version of PySignal_SetWakeupFd() patch -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: joyride 2578 does not boot on my XO
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error I get is: File /usr/bin/sugar-session, line 30, in module import gconf ImportError: could not import gobject: (error was '/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/glib/_glib.so: undefined symbol: PySignal_SetWakeupFd') Thanks, I screwed up the changelog so my new python packages did not make it into this build. Should be fixed in 2579. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2580
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2580 Changes in build 2580 from build: 2579 Size delta: 0.00M -pygtk2 2.13.0-2.fc10 +pygtk2 2.13.0-2.olpc4.1 -pygtk2-libglade 2.13.0-2.fc10 +pygtk2-libglade 2.13.0-2.olpc4.1 --- Changes for pygtk2 2.13.0-2.olpc4.1 from 2.13.0-2.fc10 --- + Experimental; fix PySignal_SetWakeupFd() semantics to reduce wakeups + Use numpy instead of numeric --- Changes for pygtk2-libglade 2.13.0-2.olpc4.1 from 2.13.0-2.fc10 --- + Experimental; fix PySignal_SetWakeupFd() semantics to reduce wakeups -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
2579 - power saving (un)setting was not in effect
Just now (with olpc-update while using 2577) installed joyride-2579 on my XO, and booted it. To my surprise my XO went into suspend when left without input - file /etc/ohm/inhibit-suspend was absent. But going to the 2579 graphic control panel - it shows both power checkboxes UNmarked. Previously, when running 2577, that control panel setting resulted in file /etc/ohm/inhibit-idle-suspend being present. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: spell checking in activities
Hi Carol, Carol Farlow Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please provide the pointers if you would be so kind. Will do, when I have it! English has too many words that don't follow rules, so if writing were deferred until spelling of each word could be perfect, young children would not be able to write substantive compositions until later grades. No doubt other languages are taught differently. Spell-checking is just a possible feature of a software. I expect such a feature will only be useful for certain teaching contexts and methods. For a given context in which we assume that the feature is relevant, there are good and bad implementations. For example, in order to teach the correct spellings of words to a kid, I think MS-like spell-checkers are bad. As an alternative, I suggest to use a very minimalistic spell-checker, which will automatically replace typos by the correct spelling when the replacement is 99% predictable. Or something along this idea. (I'm not arguing on how writing should be taught...) -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Emulating 8.2-767
I got the bare image working in virtualbox. Btw, if I had to do it again I'd start with an image that already has the activities installed: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/gg-767-4/ I downloaded this but Virtualbox says it is not bootable. Is this perhaps not ext3 filesystem? Dave - Bert - -- Dave Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing Register button from sugar on non-XO machine
That depends. I suppose we might be able to support some services, like backup, in interesting ways in non-school situations. I think the more appropriate course of action is to pursue the idea of the collaboration server as a unique device in the neighborhood. In truth, the register option should be an action on that server device, and not part of the Home menu. That was a short term hack which, like many we've made, has stuck due to lack of resources. With my suggested change, no one would see the registration option unless they could make use of it. I'm CC'ing Martin, who recently emailed me on this subject (sorry for not getting back to you yet Martin). We need to iron out the plan for representing the server and exposing the available services. Here's a ticket which mentions this, though oddly it's closed, which might be why this has never been done right: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2467. - Eben On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm going to add patch to remove Register button from sugar packages for altlinux. Is there any reason to have it on non-XO machine ? /Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Emulating 8.2-767
On 06.12.2008, at 22:54, Dave Bauer wrote: I got the bare image working in virtualbox. Btw, if I had to do it again I'd start with an image that already has the activities installed: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/gg-767-4/ I downloaded this but Virtualbox says it is not bootable. Is this perhaps not ext3 filesystem? Ah, you may be right there. Sorry. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 2579 - power saving (un)setting was not in effect
Hi, Just now (with olpc-update while using 2577) installed joyride-2579 on my XO, and booted it. To my surprise my XO went into suspend when left without input - file /etc/ohm/inhibit-suspend was absent. But going to the 2579 graphic control panel - it shows both power checkboxes UNmarked. Previously, when running 2577, that control panel setting resulted in file /etc/ohm/inhibit-idle-suspend being present. This is because Sugar has moved to using GConf, but OHM hasn't yet. Filed a bug to track doing that: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9086 - Chris. -- Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2581
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2581 Changes in build 2581 from build: 2580 Size delta: 0.00M -fedora-release 10-1.1 +fedora-release 10-1.2 -pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.1 +pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.2 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing Register button from sugar on non-XO machine
On 6 Dec 2008, at 22:20, Eben Eliason wrote: That depends. I suppose we might be able to support some services, like backup, in interesting ways in non-school situations. I think the more appropriate course of action is to pursue the idea of the collaboration server as a unique device in the neighborhood. In truth, the register option should be an action on that server device, and not part of the Home menu. That was a short term hack which, like many we've made, has stuck due to lack of resources. With my suggested change, no one would see the registration option unless they could make use of it. I'm CC'ing Martin, who recently emailed me on this subject (sorry for not getting back to you yet Martin). We need to iron out the plan for representing the server and exposing the available services. Here's a ticket which mentions this, though oddly it's closed, which might be why this has never been done right: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2467. - Eben That gets my +1 – not that mine is worth much :-) Would be great to see more service types in the neighbourhood. I can imagine a control panel module for each service type that either auto populates a list (if at all possible/practical), or/and allows entries to be manually added. A current example would be jabberd services (or whatever formal name we want this, collaboration server (?), it's not the same as an XS); would be nice to have a CP module that you can add** a list of servers to, then each would be shown as an icon in neighbourhood, a simple click would switch your jabber server. **Perhaps an XS if present would provide the default list so it's manageable. --Gary On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm going to add patch to remove Register button from sugar packages for altlinux. Is there any reason to have it on non-XO machine ? /Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: will there be an 8.2 update ?
The 8.2.1 early thinking is here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/021388.html If we want to ship any G1 or ChangeTheWorld machines without DRM and with pretty boot, we'll want to put a fix for #7896 into 8.2.1 (and 9.1). The fix goes into /boot/olpc.fth in the software release, but only a few people have tested it, and with varying results. If we don't put this into the OS release, people who get non-DRM machines will get the traditional Linux text-console bootup. (Which is OK by me, but OLPC might prefer pretty boot.) John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Emulating 8.2-767
Btw, if I had to do it again I'd start with an image that already has the activities installed: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/gg-767-4/ - Bert - I just installed all the activities when it booted up. It said check for updates and when I did it downloaded all the G1G1 activities. This works on my AMD linux box without changing the kernel. I'll try to the modifications later and see if I can get it working on my Macbook also. Dave Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Wacom Bamboo with XO?
Okay, Colors! v11 supports Wacom tablets, with pressure sensitivity. Instructions for setup are on the activity page, it's really pretty simple. OLPC folks, it might be nice to update xorg-dcon.conf to support Wacom tablets, and to include the linuxwacom package in builds. I think that deployments would be well served to have a few cheap graphics tablets available for art classes, etc. If you're interested, the Colors! activity bundle contains the fixed xorg-dcon.conf. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Colors! -Wade On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [adding sugar-devel to cc as it's of interest to other platforms than olpc] On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Chris Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wade wrote: I'm partly set up to build kernels, I can give it a try at some point. Ultimately though, just mouse position and clicking isn't nearly enough. You *at least* need pressure information for a decent tablet painting experience. right -- i'm hoping someone with some tablet experience will point to some tool that does the right config of the tablet. Well, I haven't yet figured out how to get an appropriate OLPC kernel build set-up but from my investigation to date it looks like the gtk.gdk class interface already has the smarts to talk to tablets. By default, Wacom USB tablets start out in a generic HID mode. The application would need to recognize the tablet, then enable the full tablet driver and configuration. http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/theory From my reading of the gtk.gdk page it looks like those should map directly to the tablet access info on the Wacom HOWTO site. http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/appdev There is even a command line utility to config the tablet that could probably be integrated into the Sugar shell process or Sugarized into an activity of sorts: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/xsetwacom Hi, in case someone is interested, adding a control panel section to Sugar is quite easy once you know a bit of pygtk, look here for the already existing examples: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=sugar;a=tree;f=extensions/cpsection We should have nice documentation, but in the meantime, feel free to ask. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
