samurai-x2: Python-based window manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Recently it was discussed here why no Python library existed that interacted directly with core X11. Today I saw mentioned at lwn.net the Python-based window manager samurai-x2 which might be interesting in relation to that, and perhaps even more concretely as a default Window manager for Sugar? More info here: http://samurai-x.org/ And here: http://lwn.net/Articles/312681/ If there is interest, I would be happy to attempt packaging samurai-x2 for Debian. I have plenty of other interesting tasks too, so will only do if if someone finds it relevant. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklVhX4ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLio4ACffJsJrVjZZogvOCMY7RIPkWcV yIgAnRMjG2yETGwdq8Q8+mITAjVyksAc =RpFZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
Aha! Yes, I've made that a response to the recent spot. As for the comments... this is a chance to work on your skill at teaching through one-liners. There are a few other great videos up that are worth sharing where appropriate; Joels video of an 8 and 10-year old repairing a keyboard comes to mind. For those who haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pus_fA1Tv9w Project4Awesome has some tips for using YouTube to spread an idea [they run an annual 'take over YT for charity' day every Dec. 17] - http://www.projectforawesome.com/?page_id=16 SJ On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:53 PM, S Page wrote: >> the common reaction "How are kids going to use laptops in the middle of >> the jungle? give them food!" > > I didn't know about "OLPC Mission: Part 2 The XO Laptop" , > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMeX2D4AOjM > That video is outstanding! I don't know how to suggest it as a stock > response to the doubters. > > -- > =S > > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
> the common reaction "How are kids going to use laptops in > the middle of the jungle? give them food!" I didn't know about "OLPC Mission: Part 2 The XO Laptop" , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMeX2D4AOjM That video is outstanding! I don't know how to suggest it as a stock response to the doubters. -- =S ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
Samuel Klein wrote: > The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been > released. Well it's united Lennon fans, OLPC h8ters, the usual foul-mouthed losers, and the common reaction "How are kids going to use laptops in the middle of the jungle? give them food!" I responded to a few of the last, and all my comments got voted off the island. If you have a youtube account, vote the reasonable responses up. http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=4b4GkGMiBDQ -- =S ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Samuel Klein wrote: > David, > > I believe it's his real speech, with a few composite moments. It > sounds like other interviews I've heard -- and different from most > singing voice examples in my head. You're not alone in making that > comment about the voice. Feel free to suggest post topics or > additional videos to review for the blog in the comments. the problem is that it sounds fake. it sounds as if someone sampled various interviews and cut individual words togeather to make the speach. and given that he is dead, anyone who would care about his opinion is going to know that this isn't his opinion. adding the vidio of him while the fake voice is going also is jarring as the audio doesn't sync to the face. so as a meaningful message it has red flags haning out everywhere just for technical (or apparent technical) reasons. And even if you ignore those it just isn't that good a spot (unless you have a far higher opinion of Lennon than I do) Fred Astaire dancing with a Dirt Devil vaccum was one thing (they pasted in the vaccum to replace a hatstand), but faking endorcements from people is far worse. in part it teaches people to expect that video is faked, and while I agree that this is technicaly possible to do, it's not something that ethical people and orginizations should be doing (except as I said before, in things clearly labeled as entertainment, not fact) it's like spam, technicaly possible, sometimes effective, but something no ethical orginization should be involved with. David Lang > SJ > > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:28 PM, wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Samuel Klein wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been >>> released. I'm curious to see reactions from the list. If anyone >>> makes a screensaver version of the opening sequence, which I love, >>> I'll send you my first attempt at a memory-doubled XO. I'm hoping to >>> get more details about how it was made to post as well... It's had >>> 50,000 views (wow, make that 65k since I wrote this draft at lunch) in >>> the past day. Details and a couple other awesome video links are up >>> on the blog. >>> http://blog.laptop.org >> >> personal opinion here, I don't like using digital fakery to make dead >> celebreties say things that they never said (movies that are clearly fiction >> are an exception to this) >> >> In this case I think the quality of the audio splicing also leave a lot to >> be desired (but then again, I've never listened to recordings of Lennon >> talking, so it could be his real speech pattern) >> >> the other videos on the blog are very interesting. I hadn't heard of this >> blog before, thanks for the pointer. >> >> David Lang >> > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > I believe it's his real speech, with a few composite moments. It I stand corrected; it was an actor. SJ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Bastien wrote: > "Samuel Klein" writes: > >> The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been >> released. I'm curious to see reactions from the list. > > I only like the beginning - flying XOs... the first attempt for a > forthcoming screensaver "activity"? My thoughts exactly. I'd like to know who wrote the code for that. > For the rest of it, it sounds fake, it's too short, what we see and > hear is nothing but a distraction from the core message. Looks like > people have been playing with a beautiful idea, but ended up with a > toy-movie. > > My favorite so far is Waveplace's one: > > http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3wB-7JeOE It certainly has the best imagery of kids in XO schools. Has that white-on-black version of the logo appeared anywhere else? SJ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
"Samuel Klein" writes: > The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been > released. I'm curious to see reactions from the list. I only like the beginning - flying XOs... the first attempt for a forthcoming screensaver "activity"? For the rest of it, it sounds fake, it's too short, what we see and hear is nothing but a distraction from the core message. Looks like people have been playing with a beautiful idea, but ended up with a toy-movie. My favorite so far is Waveplace's one: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3wB-7JeOE -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
David, I believe it's his real speech, with a few composite moments. It sounds like other interviews I've heard -- and different from most singing voice examples in my head. You're not alone in making that comment about the voice. Feel free to suggest post topics or additional videos to review for the blog in the comments. SJ On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:28 PM, wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been >> released. I'm curious to see reactions from the list. If anyone >> makes a screensaver version of the opening sequence, which I love, >> I'll send you my first attempt at a memory-doubled XO. I'm hoping to >> get more details about how it was made to post as well... It's had >> 50,000 views (wow, make that 65k since I wrote this draft at lunch) in >> the past day. Details and a couple other awesome video links are up >> on the blog. >> http://blog.laptop.org > > personal opinion here, I don't like using digital fakery to make dead > celebreties say things that they never said (movies that are clearly fiction > are an exception to this) > > In this case I think the quality of the audio splicing also leave a lot to > be desired (but then again, I've never listened to recordings of Lennon > talking, so it could be his real speech pattern) > > the other videos on the blog are very interesting. I hadn't heard of this > blog before, thanks for the pointer. > > David Lang > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Lennon video and other vids
If you still want the originals for download, you can find some at media.laptop.org, but that machine isn't designed to take much traffic. http://media.laptop.org/zimi/ http://media.laptop.org/brandvideos/ You can also see other videos uploaded to the olpc group at DM, which are automatically converted and moved there (once they are approved for group inclusion), so if you already have a vid you want others to be able to see on their XO, make a DM account and post it to http://www.dailymotion.com/olpc where it will join http://olpc.dailymotion.com/video/x7gne6_give-one-get-one-2007-thank-you_school http://olpc.dailymotion.com/video/x7f7jj_one-laptop-per-child-zimis-story-fu_school http://olpc.dailymotion.com/video/x7o505_skills-the-right-to-education_lifestyle http://olpc.dailymotion.com/video/x7ft2t_olpc-mission-video-part-1_tech http://olpc.dailymotion.com/video/x7ft5g_olpc-mission-video-part-2_tech along with a large collection of Plonsters claymations, a /huge/ collection of Cullen Wood kids' videos, and more. Sebastien - I think we may need another way to navigate (a set of numbers in addition to << >>) now that the group's broken 400 videos... SJ On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > That is a fine point, Mikus. > We are working with dailymotion to provide an archive of all olpc > videos formatted cleanly for the XO. > > http://www.dailymotion.com/factory/olpc > http://olpc.dailymotion.com/ > > for the time being, you can just write to web-t...@lists.laptop.org if > there's a video you want to see that isn't up there. > the message from Lennon already is. > > SJ > > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> There are those of us who have difficulty watching YouTube on our XOs. Is >> there somewhere to download this video with wget ? >> >> mikus >> >> > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Lennon video and other vids
That is a fine point, Mikus. We are working with dailymotion to provide an archive of all olpc videos formatted cleanly for the XO. http://www.dailymotion.com/factory/olpc http://olpc.dailymotion.com/ for the time being, you can just write to web-t...@lists.laptop.org if there's a video you want to see that isn't up there. the message from Lennon already is. SJ On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > There are those of us who have difficulty watching YouTube on our XOs. Is > there somewhere to download this video with wget ? > > mikus > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Samuel Klein wrote: > Hi, > > The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been > released. I'm curious to see reactions from the list. If anyone > makes a screensaver version of the opening sequence, which I love, > I'll send you my first attempt at a memory-doubled XO. I'm hoping to > get more details about how it was made to post as well... It's had > 50,000 views (wow, make that 65k since I wrote this draft at lunch) in > the past day. Details and a couple other awesome video links are up > on the blog. > http://blog.laptop.org personal opinion here, I don't like using digital fakery to make dead celebreties say things that they never said (movies that are clearly fiction are an exception to this) In this case I think the quality of the audio splicing also leave a lot to be desired (but then again, I've never listened to recordings of Lennon talking, so it could be his real speech pattern) the other videos on the blog are very interesting. I hadn't heard of this blog before, thanks for the pointer. David Lang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
Hi, The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been released. I'm curious to see reactions from the list. If anyone makes a screensaver version of the opening sequence, which I love, I'll send you my first attempt at a memory-doubled XO. I'm hoping to get more details about how it was made to post as well... It's had 50,000 views (wow, make that 65k since I wrote this draft at lunch) in the past day. Details and a couple other awesome video links are up on the blog. http://blog.laptop.org Quick G1G1 updates : 1. The first batch of international G1G1 machines should all have arrived this week, in time for Christmas. Some people in Europe weren't sure about when the program is ending; while we didn't announce a specific date, it is likely to stop after December 31st. While there was been discussion about continuing G1G1 for a short while longer in the US, that may end at the same time. http://blog.laptop.org/2008/12/24/g1g1-international-update/ 2. There is a form you can fill out if you'd like OLPC to mail a thank-you card to someone when you donate on their behalf, and a downloadable PDF of the card you can send directly: http://laptop.org/thankyou/donationform.html http://laptop.org/thankyou/OLPC_GiftCard.pdf I hope we can use a lot of these for the ongoing give-a-school program (whatever it is called!). If you make translations (of the form or card), post details to localization@ and web-t...@laptop . Holiday spirits, SJ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
