On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 07:50, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
* Does not need to make it easy to share files between Fedora and Sugar.
- assuming its all running from the same base OS and just switching
GUIs this should be OK except for stuff stored in the journal
possibly. If
Hello
Who is excited about getting back into our weekly testing sessions! Me! So
the holiday was great, and I took my XO to far off places (well, Northland)
to show people, so I hope your XOs so some sunshine too, as well as you
getting an awesome break from the daily grind.
We are back up and
Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio::ConTi
Ingeniero Electronico
Proyecto Todos @l Computador
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Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio::ConTi
Ingeniero Electronico
Proyecto Todos @l Computador
Celular (57) 300 814 9308
Universidad Nacional de Colombia - Sede Manizales
GNU/Linux Registered User #465475
eSSuX - Usuarios y Desarrolladores GNU/Linux UNAL Manizales
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Hi All,
Just a reminder that the XO Camp conference is on for next week, January
12 - 16 at OLPC head quarters in Cambridge.
Its an open meeting technical meeting and you are all invited. See the
agenda here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2
Please put your name on the attendee list if you
Hi,
I installed Firefox on my OLPC from the All activities page. And then
installed flash from the following link
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installation . I don't have a Wi-Fi
router so I downloaded the .xo and rpm on my windows machine and then
transferred them over to the OLPC
The point is that even with all the time in the world, one could not
port everything. There are millions of man hours invested in
educational Windows program which could run on the XO, I'm just
suggesting that we spend some time collecting and packaging the better
ones into WineLearning.
It's
The Flash rpm given at that link will install flash plugin's for all
browser's including Firefox right? or do I need to install it seperately as
given in this link http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox .
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From: shivaprasad javali jbs...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Jan
*1. Diplomas*
I know it sounds ridiculous, but here in Guatemala every conference or
training anybody goes to hands out nicely-printed diplomas, many of which
say you are now a Certified Educational Quality Monitor or some such
bullshit. The diplomas are common as dirt; the people who pay any
Ok. I tried installing from the link given in the Firefox page of the OLPC
wiki ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox ) . It works fine if I install it
from a .tar.gz file but doesn't if it is installed from a .rpm file? Any
ideas?
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From: shivaprasad javali
OLPC Volunteer Infrastructure Group meeting for Jan 6, 2009 16:00 EST -05:00
UCT irc.oftc.net:@olpc-admin
Attendance is recommended/requested for those with root or administrator on
any OLPC servers; optional for others.
Agenda is listed at:
shivaprasad wrote:
Ok. I tried installing from the link given in the Firefox page of the OLPC
wiki ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox ) . It works fine if I install it
from a .tar.gz file but doesn't if it is installed from a .rpm file? Any
ideas?
i think i already said something about
Hi Jameson,
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.com
wrote:
1. Diplomas
I know it sounds ridiculous, but here in Guatemala every conference or
Not /that/ ridiculous.
Keep reminding
Hey guys, jbsp72.
Edited Adobe_Flash wiki to point Firefox Activity users to the Firefox
wiki for Flash installation instructions.
I haven't really done much testing with Firefox on the XO, but I'll
try to update the Adobe_Flash page with a better entry for the Firefox
activity once I do.
Hi Peter,
How did you go with this? Did you have any luck? I also realised
that if you drop gnome-user-share you'll drop all the httpd
requirements.
Yep, it worked! I had RPM conflicts in GConf2 (against GConf2-dbus,
both ship the same .mo files) and evince (against sugar-evince,
I hope that someone is planning to record these sessions as was done at the
last event. I watched all of these and found them very helpful and
informative as a way to get the flavor of backstory, opinion and debate that
doesn't always come through reading the lists.
My personal opinion is that
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 01:31:12PM -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi Peter,
How did you go with this? Did you have any luck? I also realised
that if you drop gnome-user-share you'll drop all the httpd
requirements.
Yep, it worked! I had RPM conflicts in GConf2 (against GConf2-dbus,
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Erik Garrison wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 01:31:12PM -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi Peter,
How did you go with this? Did you have any luck? I also realised
that if you drop gnome-user-share you'll drop all the httpd
requirements.
Yep, it worked! I had RPM
I feel the same way about some of the FUDtalks. We'll definitely have
our video setup for XOCamp sessions. We need to find a better mic,
though. --SJ
2009/1/6 Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com:
I hope that someone is planning to record these sessions as was done at the
last event. I
Hi,
Now, the question I have is why we would chose GNOME over XFCE.
I think there are significant differences in system resource
consumption.
Ed, maybe you can help here -- since this has been going back and forth
for a while, could you help us come to/make a decision about whether
On Jan 06 2009, at 14:23, Chris Ball was caught saying:
Hi,
Now, the question I have is why we would chose GNOME over XFCE. I
think there are significant differences in system resource
consumption.
We had a long thread about whether to use GNOME or XFCE on devel@ last
month.
chris wrote:
Hi Peter,
How did you go with this? Did you have any luck? I also realised
that if you drop gnome-user-share you'll drop all the httpd
requirements.
Yep, it worked! I had RPM conflicts in GConf2 (against GConf2-dbus,
both ship the same .mo files) and
Hi,
I think I missed the previous conversation, re: estimate , but I'm
thinking that swap will have significant impact on the lifetime of
the flash chip. With only 256MiB of RAM, we are bound to swap a
lot. I'd feel more comfortable if we did flash-wide wear leveling
using
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
Visited a friend, and helped him install a new build in his XO. The
first time the new build completed booting, he was presented with an
action bar (to request software update) near the top of Home View.
It so happened
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 02:23:24PM -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
Now, the question I have is why we would chose GNOME over XFCE. I
think there are significant differences in system resource
consumption.
We had a long thread about whether to use GNOME or XFCE on devel@ last
Another plug for Teapot's Intrepid Ibex install if you want an easy way to
try the Ubuntu XFCE out on an SD card. I think it is quite beautiful.
http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=4053.0
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Erik Garrison e...@laptop.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at
On Jan 06 2009, at 14:42, Chris Ball was caught saying:
Hi,
I think I missed the previous conversation, re: estimate , but I'm
thinking that swap will have significant impact on the lifetime of
the flash chip. With only 256MiB of RAM, we are bound to swap a
lot. I'd feel
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:27:45PM -0500, Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio wrote:
I have a fully customized XO and i need to take an image from it to be
installed on several computers inside the project. The thing is i need it to
be separated from the activity pack, like the ones you use to update via
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:23:32PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:27:45PM -0500, Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio wrote:
I have a fully customized XO and i need to take an image from it to be
installed on several computers inside the project. The thing is i need it to
be
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:19:52PM -0800, Deepak Saxena wrote:
On Jan 06 2009, at 14:42, Chris Ball was caught saying:
Hi,
I think I missed the previous conversation, re: estimate , but I'm
thinking that swap will have significant impact on the lifetime of
the flash chip. With
I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding on my part.
The idea with the images is for manufacturing the computers. In my state we
want to make a kind of customized image with some configuration and send for
manufacturing the computers.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio::ConTi
Ingeniero
I vote XFCE.
Guys, maybe this can help. I whipped up a flash CPU benchmarking tool
some time ago to measure the impact of switching from Actionscript 2.0
to 3.0. I called it TeddyMark and it has 16 instances of Teddy (a
character we made for one of our games) running around the screen and
an FPS
Carlos Nazareno wrote:
Guys, maybe this can help. I whipped up a flash CPU benchmarking tool
Currently, we are assuming that the issue will be RAM consumption, not
CPU. I personally have no reason to expect either system to behave
differently in terms of background CPU overhead or cost of
Hi All,
We are on for the weekly 9.1.0 meeting tomorrow Wed, January 16 at 2PM
US ET on IRC (freenode.net #olpc-meeting).
Here's the agenda. Let me know if you have any chances or additions.
10 minutes - XO Camp status. Assign more people to help present.
25 minutes - 9.1.0 feature status.
Greg,
I don't mean to be nasty, but I do feel the need to be blunt:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:28:36PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote:
Hi Michael,
We are definitely behind where I would like to be at this stage.
How far behind?
However, we'll only move the date when we must and we'll only do it
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:52:44PM -0500, Erik Garrison wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:23:32PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:27:45PM -0500, Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio wrote:
I have a fully customized XO and i need to take an image from it to be
installed on several
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Chris Ball wrote:
Now, the question I have is why we would chose GNOME over XFCE.
I think there are significant differences in system resource
consumption.
Ed, maybe you can help here -- since this has been going back and forth
for a while, could you help us
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.com wrote:
1. Diplomas
I know it sounds ridiculous, but here in Guatemala every conference or
training anybody goes to hands out nicely-printed diplomas, many of which
say you are now a Certified Educational Quality Monitor or
Currently, we are assuming that the issue will be RAM consumption, not CPU.
I personally have no reason to expect either system to behave differently
in terms of background CPU overhead or cost of common operations.
Well, in any case, it really wouldn't hurt to benchmark the CPU
consumption
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:54:24PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 06.01.2009, at 22:34, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
Carlos Nazareno wrote:
Guys, maybe this can help. I whipped up a flash CPU benchmarking tool
Currently, we are assuming that the issue will be RAM consumption, not
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2615
Changes in build 2615 from build: 2614
Size delta: 1.97M
-avahi-dnsconfd 0.6.22-11.fc10
+avahi-dnsconfd 0.6.22-12.fc10
+audit-libs-python 1.7.10-1.fc10
-avahi 0.6.22-11.fc10
+avahi 0.6.22-12.fc10
-avahi-autoipd 0.6.22-11.fc10
Hi Michael,
No problem being blunt.
I don't know yet how far behind we are or what it will take to catch up.
We are close if we create a target bug list in the next two weeks then
start daily triage and weekly test blitzes.
Quality is my primary concern, especially if you throw in a lot of
Hi Greg,
The choice of file system isn't a deal breaker for the Fedora
Desktop feature. The hard part will be picking the right desktop
(more on that soon, I already love the dancing benchmark bears :-),
making it fit on the NAND, and testing it enough to prove its
usable.
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:12:39PM -0500, Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio wrote:
I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding on my part.
The idea with the images is for manufacturing the computers. In my state we
want to make a kind of customized image with some configuration and send for
If both browsers were using the same SWF plugin, then this is extremely
remarkable, and merits investigation.
Whoops! I forgot! Flash *does* perform differently under different browsers.
In terms of Flash 9 framerates in WinXP,
FireFox 2.x Opera 9.x IE 6
With my current rig:
Flash 10
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote:
Greg,
I don't mean to be nasty, but I do feel the need to be blunt:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:28:36PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote:
Hi Michael,
We are definitely behind where I would like to be at this stage.
How far
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:53:19PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:52:44PM -0500, Erik Garrison wrote:
...
We haven't worked on figuring out what pieces of the system are touched,
so, as Michael notes, copying the machines can have unintended side
effects. It seems
-pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.2
+pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.3
Does anyone know off the top of their head the reason for this fork
from mainline Fedora?
Peter
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Hi Paul,
i was actually thinking in the other direction: if the ohmd action
were disabled, i assume we'd get the g-p-m screen. is that screen
tuneable? if g-p-m is possibly going in anyway, it might obviate
the power button menu work.
I'm not seeing a menu, even after killing
Now, the question I have is why we would chose GNOME over XFCE. I think
there are significant differences in system resource consumption.
I don't believe the decision has been made yet.
I ask because the impression I had from informal tests was that a system
booting into GNOME was consuming
There is a swaponflash mtd driver. See
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0703.0/index.html#0681
Trying to swap on top of JFFS2 is a bad fit. Swapping has several
characteristics that make the problem much easier that the general
filesystem-on-NAND problem. In particular:
a)
Hi Chris,
How did you go with this? Did you have any luck? I also realised
that if you drop gnome-user-share you'll drop all the httpd
requirements.
Yep, it worked! I had RPM conflicts in GConf2 (against GConf2-dbus,
both ship the same .mo files) and evince (against sugar-evince,
I think it had to do with eliminating a repeated wakeup?
http://blogs.gnome.org/johan/2008/01/04/enough-wakeups-in-python-programs/
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
-pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.2
+pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.3
Does anyone know off the
Hi Peter,
Good news. I'm aware of the conflicts you mention. I'm not sure
that we need evince-dvi (not sure if its a requirement of anything
though and hence gets pulled in automatically).
That's right, we don't need it. It's part of the groupinstall, but it's
not depended on
Hi Chris,
For the evince vs sugar-evince I suspect we need to try and get the
mainline evince split out into evince and evince-libs so that we
can build sugar-evince against it similar to what we do with
abiword and write (I think that's its name).
Yep, sounds good.
When I get
However, we'll only move the date when we must and we'll only do it to
improve quality or possibly to include a customer critical feature.
There's about 35 normal workdays between the end of XOCamp
and the proposed date for factory-release. As a mere sampling
of the distance that ought to be
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:18:28PM -0500, Erik Garrison wrote:
... /etc/alsa/asound.state ...
Ok. First this appears to be just one file, an alsa state file, which
must be written to by alsa during the first runtime.
During shutdown, alsactl store writes this file. A cleaning script
need
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:40:07PM -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote:
Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi Chris,
I would remove the old fc9 build from the olpc_development repo (or
even have one for 8.2.0 and one for 9.1.0 so they don't get mixed
up). Surely it should be pulling cyrus-sasl
Same here. Trouble getting wifi connected, too. Neighborhood view was still
there, not missing like with NM7 in joyride a while back, (I am avoiding
joyride until there's a candidate). My access point would blink for a while,
then ask for my passphrase, then blink for a while, then ask
Does pilgrim (Puritan?) use kickstart like files?
Nope.
If not, why do we not create builds using what seems to be fedora's
standard build system?
The short answer is that there has never been consensus among the people
dealing with OLPC's builds that anaconda was the right tool for the
Peter Robinson wrote:
I don't believe that is true at all. I believe XFCE is an install
option during a full install and there's a fully Fedora blessed XFCE
spin available from Fedora here http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ . It
is certainly not the main desktop they support but it is no less
If your friend had waited, (while the xo first looks for a mesh, three times,
then connects wifi), then hits 'try again' the updater would work. Is there
a way to set the default for what the xo looks for to connect with on start
up? After booting, if I go in Neighborhood view and select my
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM, genesee genesee@gmail.com wrote:
If your friend had waited, (while the xo first looks for a mesh, three times,
then connects wifi), then hits 'try again' the updater would work. Is there
a way to set the default for what the xo looks for to connect with on
I'm not seeing a menu, even after killing ohmd, with When the power
button is pressed: Ask me chosen in the g-p-m prefs. Dunno why yet.
This works in debXO 0.4, I use it all the time. Ask dilinger how he
made it work.
John
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-pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.2
+pygobject2 2.15.4-3.olpc4.3
Does anyone know off the top of their head the reason for this fork
from mainline Fedora?
probably #4680, dsd's work to resolve this bug, from about four weeks
ago. Every multitask Python program is polling 10x/sec -- at idle --
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, James Cameron wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:18:28PM -0500, Erik Garrison wrote:
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
An entry is added here for every new network interface by MAC address.
An image booted on several systems ends up with several different lines
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