Re: Browse.xo performance resolution - Hulahop 200dpi vs Browse 134dpi

2009-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: The short version of it is that canvas (and image rendering in general) is hurting lots due to the dpi being hardcoded to 134 which forces Gecko into image scaling games. Just setting layout.css.dpi to 96 makes Browse much snappier in general, and incredibly faster in

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 16 May 2009 01:47:49 am Chris Ball wrote: We have some good news: OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11. Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the option to switch

Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 15.05.2009, 16:17 -0400 schrieb Chris Ball: We have some good news: OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11. Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the option to

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson
We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11.  Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the option to switch into a standard GNOME install instead. If you say

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 16.05.2009, 12:05 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson: We have some good news: OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11. Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson
We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11.  Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the option to switch into a standard GNOME install instead. If you

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, den 16.05.2009, 12:58 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson: We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11.  Unlike previous

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 16.05.2009, 08:48 -0400 schrieb Walter Bender: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, den 16.05.2009, 12:58 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson: We have some good news: OLPC has decided to base its software

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Walter Bender
I'll ask Adam, the OLPC employee who is at the meeting. He may know. -walter On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, den 16.05.2009, 08:48 -0400 schrieb Walter Bender: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Christoph Wickert

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-16 Thread Bobby Powers
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm afraid with Gnome installed by default there won't be much space left to install anything else. The DebXO Gnome install size is ~ 1.5 GB, which would leave 2.5 GB or ~ 60% free disk space. (Remember

XO id transfer to SD OS install

2009-05-16 Thread Chris Marshall
I would like to upgrade my XO to boot from an SD install of the OS. Is there a way to transfer the identity information from the original install to the SD boot so that: (1) XO colors are the same (2) Nickname is the same (3) Friends are the same (4) It stays Friends with other XOs transparently

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Ball wrote: We have some good news: OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11. Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the option

Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Tiago Marques
-- Forwarded message -- From: Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM Subject: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan. To: b...@alum.mit.edu On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11.  Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
The 1GHz C7 is still a slow cpu, as it seems from reviews of similar netbooks: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4352 For most tasks it is slower than an 600MHz Celeron M and that's not exactly fast. Does anyone more familiar with the hardware have any idea of how fast

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson
If you're interested in contributing, we'd certainly love your help, and you can find us on the fedora-olpc mailing list¹, and freenode IRC's #fedora-olpc channel.  Our existing F11 build images for the XO-1 are here², and we'll soon begin publishing images for the XO-1.5 too.  XO-1.5 beta

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
Please, always use reply-all. Answers inlined where I have an answer. Tiago Marques wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:42 PM, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu mailto:noise...@freemail.hu wrote: The 1GHz C7 is still a slow cpu, as it seems from reviews of similar netbooks:

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: If you're interested in contributing, we'd certainly love your help, and you can find us on the fedora-olpc mailing list¹, and freenode IRC's #fedora-olpc channel.  Our existing F11 build images for the XO-1 are

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Tiago Marques
Tks, I keep forgetting that OLPC-Devel doesn't have the list as the default reply-to. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: Please, always use reply-all. Answers inlined where I have an answer. Tiago Marques wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:42 PM, NoiseEHC

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread NoiseEHC
Sorry, should have explained myself better, as I was also talking about memory speed and not size, this time. Ahh, if you wrote about memory size then never mind my comments. :) Thing is, most flash controller implementations are crap, and it will probably be the case with the one in Gen

Re: XO id transfer to SD OS install

2009-05-16 Thread Bobby Powers
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Chris Marshall jns-cmarsh...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to upgrade my XO to boot from an SD install of the OS.  Is there a way to transfer the identity information from the original install to the SD boot so that: (1) XO colors are the same (2)

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Ben, Of course, this equation gets still more complicated depending on whether we have MTD or FTL flash. Choosing a filesystem will be an interesting exercise. I think it's clear that we'll be using an FTL of some kind. (Which kind in particular will depend on more testing with

Re: Fwd: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Tiago Marques
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: Sorry, should have explained myself better, as I was also talking about memory speed and not size, this time. Ahh, if you wrote about memory size then never mind my comments. :) Thing is, most flash controller

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Tiago Marques
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Ben, Of course, this equation gets still more complicated depending on whether we have MTD or FTL flash. Choosing a filesystem will be an interesting exercise. I think it's clear that we'll be using an FTL of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo performance resolution - Hulahop 200dpi vs Browse 134dpi

2009-05-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
This is very interesting, similar to the problem Qt used to have on Maemo. I was always surprised by report of canvas being slow on the XO, it's probably the fastest and the lowest overhead drawing technology available to JavaScript. 2009/5/15 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: On Fri,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo performance resolution - Hulahop 200dpi vs Browse 134dpi

2009-05-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
Qt on Maemo's problem was similar, but not quite the same. http://ariya.blogspot.com/2008/08/qt-44-and-maemo.html Qt used 32bit colors internally, but Maemo could only output 16bit. So Qt was forced to convert between the two all the time. The solution was to allow Qt to use 16bit internally,

Re: [Server-devel] ARM based XS ?

2009-05-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:09 AM, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the Marvell OpenRd Client is finally shipping. http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-21-openrd-client.aspx I know Fedora now has a ARM branch. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARMHow difficult would it

Re: [Server-devel] admin on moodle

2009-05-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I am able to get a XO to register and become a student. It logs in seamlessly. Who gets to be admin on the moodle instance on XS? You're not telling us what XS you're using :-) The _first_ user to (register and then...)

Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hello Gerald, It'd be useful to hear more about - what XS version - network topology - what exact problems you are having it's hard to provide advise. I'll try however. In general, you should not change the dhcpd configuration on the XS. Give the XS 2 NICs, and let it run its own subnet.

Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Gerald Ardito
Martin, Thanks for the help. I am running version 0.5.2 (the latest stable version). The network looks like this: XOs connect to an AP AP points to server box Server box connected to VLAN The problems I am having: 1) I was told by my network guy to set the box for a static IP address and

Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Gerald Ardito gma...@gmail.com wrote: I am running version 0.5.2 (the latest stable version). Good! The network looks like this: XOs connect to an AP AP points to server box Server box connected to VLAN Good. The problems I am having: 1) I was

Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Gerald Ardito gma...@gmail.com wrote: So, how do I make the server work as the DHCP server? the XS will act as DHCP server once domain_config and /etc/sysconfig/network have been set properly. Look at the initial configuration section in

Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Gerald Ardito
Martin, I will look at the configuration section as you suggest. I have been using it. Are you saying that without doing anything else (like editing dhcpd.conf), the server will act as the DHCP server? Or do I still need to edit that file? Also, do I need 2 NICs. My network guy says no. That if

Re: [Server-devel] admin on moodle

2009-05-16 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I am able to get a XO to register and become a student. It logs in seamlessly. Who gets to be admin on the moodle instance on XS? You're not

Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Gerald Ardito gma...@gmail.com wrote: I will look at the configuration section as you suggest. I have been using it. Are you saying that without doing anything else (like editing dhcpd.conf), the server will act as the DHCP server? Or do I still need to edit

Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Tim Moody
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Re: [Server-devel] XS Help, please

2009-05-16 Thread Gerald Ardito
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Re: [Server-devel] ARM based XS ?

2009-05-16 Thread rihowa...@gmail.com
Martin, According to the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM there is Fedora 8 and Fedora 10 port for ARM. The OpenRD comes with Fedora 8. I mentioned this at the OLPC-SF meeting this morning and we are adding it to our projects list. I have 1 or 2 people at the meeting