Re: XO-3 official
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 18:33 -0800, John Gilmore wrote: > > I would take it all with a large dose of salt. > > Also, as usual, the left hand at OLPC doesn't know what the right hand > is doing. Actually I think the hands are all doing a very good job. It's the head that needs attention. One thing does interest me however. the comment "it plans to open the architecture of the device to allow any other PC maker to take over the project." Is this in the realms of possibility for the XO-1/1.5? Specifically, would OLPC allow a 3rd party to manufacture a system with their own motherboard using the XO-1 case, battery and screen. Perhaps with a colour change to make it distinctive as another product. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Brief testing of OS10 (F11 for XO-1)
Hi, A few observations running OS10 on XO1.0 with latest XO1 firmware: 1) After about 10 minutes (did not measure time exactly) , all input from keyboard and keypad stops. Interestingly, mouse plugged into USB still works. I assume this is because of the Power saving (first of the 2 options) is on. But: 2) By default, Power saving first checkbox is on. But it does not persist when set to off. 3) Interestingly, recording sound in Etoys works (freezes on OS43 and higher on XO1.5, see https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9724). milan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing OS64 on XO1.5
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 01:20:37PM -0500, milan zimmermann wrote: >> 1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system >> sometimes does not connect to network, [...] > > Deficiency of the B2 hardware, won't be fixed in B2, but will be (is) > fixed in the next hardware revision. ok, thanks > >> 2) In the Record activity, sound does not work - I tried to record >> some fairly loud speach, saved it on the bottom, but on replay of the >> saved clipping, a very (etremely) low sound - almost no sound, >> certainly not distinquishable at all. Speakers were unmute and on max. > > Thanks, I've reproduced this and raised a new ticket. #9375. > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9920 thanks > >> 3) Record activity does not maximize the camera view to the whole >> screen (aftger hitting the maximize button) > > Known problem, ticket #9890. > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9890 > >> 4) In Etoys, sound does work reasonably loud, but is very jittery. > > Known problem, ticket #9375. > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9375 Apparently Sayamindu Dasgupta provided a fix which Bert submitted: http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-638 > >> 5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes >> (or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power >> light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only >> holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back >> from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right.. > > Intentional. > >> 6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the >> filesystem? > > Intentional, yes. It is only hidden. that was dumb of me I forgot not every activity is a favourite :) Thanks everyone for answers. > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:33 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> I would take it all with a large dose of salt. > > Also, as usual, the left hand at OLPC doesn't know what the right hand > is doing. The press release isn't on www.laptop.org, nor is there > anything in www.laptop.org or wiki.laptop.org about the XO-3 (or even > the XO-1.75). The press release (which is on Business Wire) links to > 30 megs of nice publicity photos -- which nobody can download any > more, > because they're on a foolish hosting site that has "reached its > download limit". Etc. My sentiments exactly. The press release was solely from the industrial designers, with no feedback nor approval from the team that will actually have to make their dreams become reality. wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
> I would take it all with a large dose of salt. Also, as usual, the left hand at OLPC doesn't know what the right hand is doing. The press release isn't on www.laptop.org, nor is there anything in www.laptop.org or wiki.laptop.org about the XO-3 (or even the XO-1.75). The press release (which is on Business Wire) links to 30 megs of nice publicity photos -- which nobody can download any more, because they're on a foolish hosting site that has "reached its download limit". Etc. John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: possible progress on XO-1 camera issues
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 18:09 +, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 14:28 -0300, César D. Rodas wrote: > > Hello Everybody, > > > > After hard debugging with Raul, we've realized that the problem was in > > the Geode driver. > > > > I've changed a line within the memory buffer, and it seems to work now. > > > > Looking forward to get feedback (please don't be evil, it's my first > > patch :-) > > > > http://oficina.paraguayeduca.org/~crodas/0045-Fixed-Out-of-memory-error-on-XO-1.patch > > Can you add an explanation? > > It doesn't look correct to me. You are right. It's not correct. The allocation algorithm is OK as it is. We got a wrong understanding of it and since our change made totem and cheese work (because memory was returned - even though we might probably be stepping on someone's else memory) we decided to share the results. The linked list which keeps the count of used regions seems to be manipulated correctly so no problem there. We are actually running out of offscreen memory. After much looking at the code I went back to X's log and I saw an interesting difference between 8.2 and F11. 8.2 (old geode driver): (II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 11208320 bytes F11 (new geode driver): (II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 5829856 bytes I wonder why there is a 3MB difference. Ideas? Raúl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 super-o-fficial
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:14 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > > > The OS is proprietary (android), it would probably fail it you dropped > it in a puddle and it has too many radios... What makes you think that this will be a proprietary version of Android? Android is licensed Apache 2.0 with kernel patches as GPLv2[1], although there have been some proprietary apps and customizations on top. [1] http://source.android.com/license ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 super-o-fficial
> "We don't necessarily need to build it," Negroponte told Forbes. "We just > need to threaten to build it." Looks like Notion Ink has already done so, sort of: http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel-qi-display-1866308/ The OS is proprietary (android), it would probably fail it you dropped it in a puddle and it has too many radios (GSM, UMTS, GPS, and Bluetoot, besides WiFi) -- but at least it has connectors! Remote villages shouldn't waste power with "inductive charging", and can you imaging debugging a cranky XO-3 via multitouch? See also: "$99 NVIDIA Tegra MIDs in development" http://www.slashgear.com/99-nvidia-tegra-mids-in-development-android-ported-to-tegra-1734880/ John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Ticket 8104
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:33, Cecilia Abalde wrote: > I have a question about the patch in ticket 8104. > to which version of networkmanager was done? If you mean the C implementatiaon of nm-dhcp-client.action, this was a patch relative to NetworkManager 0.6.5 ... and the src.rpm is in Martin's directory: http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/public_rpms/8.2-papercuts/NetworkManager-0.6.5-0.14.svn3246.olpc3.src.rpm You're also welcome to ask this sort of question in the ticket itself. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html > > "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, > half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite > an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." > > Well, that's cool. > > Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess > with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether > this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. I would take it all with a large dose of salt. They are design drawings. To use a quote from Nicholas Negroponte that Engadget list in their article [1] "Sure, if I were a commercial entity coming to you for investment, and I'd made the projections I had in the past, you wouldn't invest again, but we're not a commercial operation. If we only achieve half of what we're setting out to do, it could have very big consequences." so they are concept and could all go the way of the XO-2 between now and 2012. They look cool none the less and with the supposed launch of a tablet in Jan with a Pixel Qi screen may not be that far away. Peter [1] http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/olpc-shows-off-absurdly-thin-xo-3-concept-tablet-for-2012/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Sameer Verma wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: My personal experience tells me that it wouldn't help to have this piece of vaporware come into being.The limiting factor in bringing computing to the poor masses on this planet is the high cost of connecting them to the Internet. Lack of connectivity did not prevent the non-poor from getting computing. There was such a time when we didn't have Internet connectivity. It surely didn't stop us :-) Offline content and offline mirrors on local servers could very well fill in a large part of the gap. the old saying is 'never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with tapes' with current hard drives (1-2TB each), don't underestimate the bandwidth a a suitcase on a mule. when I last ordered drives in bulk I got 20 drives in a box ~6" x 12" x 18" packed for shipping. one round trip a week of 20x2TB drives is 554Mb/sec, or 69MB/sec. To simply transfering the data to/from the drives would require two drives reading continuously all the time at each end to read the data being received and two drives writing continuously to write the data being sent now, this isn't taking into account the horrible latency in this network connection ;-) but it means that if there is much of any transportation the data can be moved around to make it available. this won't work for interactive services, but it will work for e-mail, data requests, etc. now this is obviously overkill and beyond what is reasonable to try and implement for one data link in the wilderness, but this sort of thing is being done today, in first-world countries to move large scientific datasets around. 20 drives cost ~$4k, shipping them 2nd day will cost ~$200/shipment so shipping this 15 times in a month is ~$3k and result in ~2Gb/sec in bandwidth. you won't get 2Gb/sec in connectivity for this price (assuming that you can get it to your location in the first place) David Lang cheers, Sameer Even wireless service is beyond the reach of rural villages without massive government help, not likely to come about where it is needed most. Negroponte should now focus OLPC's attention on connectivity cost, not on making claims (which I doubt will come to fruition) about ultra low cost tablet devices. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." Well, that's cool. Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. --Ben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel More than anything I find this quote amusing: "We don't necessarily need to build it," Negroponte told Forbes. "We just need to threaten to build it." I suppose we could threaten to code the OS, threaten to support it, threaten to create content... :-) Hey, its Festivus. Air out the grievances!!! Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: > My personal experience tells me that it wouldn't help to have this piece of > vaporware come into being.The limiting factor in bringing computing to > the poor masses on this planet is the high cost of connecting them to the > Internet. Lack of connectivity did not prevent the non-poor from getting computing. There was such a time when we didn't have Internet connectivity. It surely didn't stop us :-) Offline content and offline mirrors on local servers could very well fill in a large part of the gap. cheers, Sameer > Even wireless service is beyond the reach of rural villages without massive > government help, not likely to come about where it is needed most. > Negroponte should now focus OLPC's attention on connectivity cost, not on > making claims (which I doubt will come to fruition) about ultra low cost > tablet devices. > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < >> bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html >>> >>> "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, >>> half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, >>> despite >>> an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." >>> >>> Well, that's cool. >>> >>> Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess >>> with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether >>> this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. >>> >>> --Ben >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@lists.laptop.org >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >>> >>> >> More than anything I find this quote amusing: >> >> "We don't necessarily need to build it," Negroponte told Forbes. "We just >> need to threaten to build it." >> >> I suppose we could threaten to code the OS, threaten to support it, >> threaten to create content... :-) >> >> Hey, its Festivus. Air out the grievances!!! >> >> Sameer >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
About near-zero connectivity cost, i came across the caua project http://www.projectcaua.org/ OLPC, and/or others could begin to support these kind of ideas. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: > My personal experience tells me that it wouldn't help to have this piece of > vaporware come into being. The limiting factor in bringing computing to > the poor masses on this planet is the high cost of connecting them to the > Internet. Even wireless service is beyond the reach of rural villages > without massive government help, not likely to come about where it is needed > most. Negroponte should now focus OLPC's attention on connectivity cost, > not on making claims (which I doubt will come to fruition) about ultra low > cost tablet devices. > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html >>> >>> "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, >>> half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, >>> despite >>> an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." >>> >>> Well, that's cool. >>> >>> Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess >>> with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether >>> this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. >>> >>> --Ben >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@lists.laptop.org >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >>> >> >> More than anything I find this quote amusing: >> >> "We don't necessarily need to build it," Negroponte told Forbes. "We just >> need to threaten to build it." >> >> I suppose we could threaten to code the OS, threaten to support it, >> threaten to create content... :-) >> >> Hey, its Festivus. Air out the grievances!!! >> >> Sameer >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: possible progress on XO-1 camera issues
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 14:28 -0300, César D. Rodas wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > After hard debugging with Raul, we've realized that the problem was in > the Geode driver. > > I've changed a line within the memory buffer, and it seems to work now. > > Looking forward to get feedback (please don't be evil, it's my first > patch :-) > > http://oficina.paraguayeduca.org/~crodas/0045-Fixed-Out-of-memory-error-on-XO-1.patch Can you add an explanation? It doesn't look correct to me. Here's my understanding: The task of this function is to create a new offscreen memory allocation of a certain size. The function goes through the list of existing allocations, looking at each entry. It calculates how much free space there is inbetween one entry in the list, and the next one. If there is enough free space, the new allocation can be inserted at this point. Otherwise, we have to carry on iterating through the list. In that specific section of code, "gap" is computed, in 2 stages, to be the amount of bytes inbetween the list entry currently being examined and the next one. if (ptr->next == NULL) gap = pGeode->offscreenSize + pGeode->offscreenStart; else gap = ptr->next->offset; This is the first step. It is setting the "gap" variable to the absolute address where the next allocation starts. In the first branch, we have reached the end of the list, therefore our upper bound is the top of the offscreen memory. In the 2nd branch, there is a following member in the list, so our upper bound is the address of where that memory allocation starts. And the "offset" variable is always absolute, so this is the correct calculation for the upper bound. As the 2nd stage of the calclation, the lower bound is considered (the end of the allocation currently being examined) to produce a final value of "gap" that represents the number of bytes inbetween the 2 consecutive list entries: gap = gap - (ptr->offset + ptr->size); To me, everything looks correct before your patch. What am I missing? Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
My personal experience tells me that it wouldn't help to have this piece of vaporware come into being.The limiting factor in bringing computing to the poor masses on this planet is the high cost of connecting them to the Internet. Even wireless service is beyond the reach of rural villages without massive government help, not likely to come about where it is needed most. Negroponte should now focus OLPC's attention on connectivity cost, not on making claims (which I doubt will come to fruition) about ultra low cost tablet devices. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < > bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: > >> >> http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html >> >> "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, >> half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite >> an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." >> >> Well, that's cool. >> >> Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess >> with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether >> this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. >> >> --Ben >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > More than anything I find this quote amusing: > > "We don't necessarily need to build it," Negroponte told Forbes. "We just > need to threaten to build it." > > I suppose we could threaten to code the OS, threaten to support it, > threaten to create content... :-) > > Hey, its Festivus. Air out the grievances!!! > > Sameer > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: possible progress on XO-1 camera issues
Hello Everybody, After hard debugging with Raul, we've realized that the problem was in the Geode driver. I've changed a line within the memory buffer, and it seems to work now. Looking forward to get feedback (please don't be evil, it's my first patch :-) http://oficina.paraguayeduca.org/~crodas/0045-Fixed-Out-of-memory-error-on-XO-1.patch Cheers On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 13:29 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:42, James Cameron wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 09:42:54PM -0300, Raul Gutierrez Segales wrote: > >> Is it cheating to change the screen depth? I change it to 24 bpp and now > >> cheese and totem work. Changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > > > > That's odd. We changed the screen depth quite a bit with XO-1.5 > > development, I wonder if those changes accidentally reached XO-1 > > development builds? > > > > (For XO-1.5 we needed the firmware, the kernel, and X to all agree on > > depth so that suspend and resume would work nicely). > > My best guess right now is that something that was able to return a > 16bpp surface is failing to do so in F11, but is manifesting itself as > absurd dimensions because the caller code is not checking for that > specific failure. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > > -- > > James Cameron > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: > > http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html > > "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, > half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite > an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." > > Well, that's cool. > > Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess > with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether > this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. > > --Ben > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > More than anything I find this quote amusing: "We don't necessarily need to build it," Negroponte told Forbes. "We just need to threaten to build it." I suppose we could threaten to code the OS, threaten to support it, threaten to create content... :-) Hey, its Festivus. Air out the grievances!!! Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Ticket 8104
OK! Thank you very much !!! 2009/12/23 Tomeu Vizoso > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:33, Cecilia Abalde > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a question about the patch in ticket 8104. > > to which version of networkmanager was done? > > Hi Cecilia, > > I'm forwarding our email to the devel mailing list at OLPC because > NetworkManager is a component that belongs to the distro, not to > Sugar. In case of doubt, you are of course welcome to ask here again. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > > thank you > > regards > > > > Cecilia > > > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > -- > «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. > What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David > Farning > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
Perhaps a 2GHz quad-core? ARM Cortex-A9 is already dual core and up to 2GHz. Best regards On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > Hi All. > > 8-ghz processor ?. > > > Rafael Ortiz > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz > wrote: >> http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html >> >> "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, >> half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite >> an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." >> >> Well, that's cool. >> >> Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess >> with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether >> this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. >> >> --Ben >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Ticket 8104
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:33, Cecilia Abalde wrote: > Hi, > I have a question about the patch in ticket 8104. > to which version of networkmanager was done? Hi Cecilia, I'm forwarding our email to the devel mailing list at OLPC because NetworkManager is a component that belongs to the distro, not to Sugar. In case of doubt, you are of course welcome to ask here again. Regards, Tomeu > thank you > regards > > Cecilia > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 14:57, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > Hi All. > > 8-ghz processor ?. I guess it's better to rely on the info here, if you need to: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20091222005779&newsLang=en Regards, Tomeu > > Rafael Ortiz > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz > wrote: >> http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html >> >> "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, >> half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite >> an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." >> >> Well, that's cool. >> >> Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess >> with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether >> this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. >> >> --Ben >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
Hi All. 8-ghz processor ?. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html > > "It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, > half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite > an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75." > > Well, that's cool. > > Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess > with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether > this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. > > --Ben > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: possible progress on XO-1 camera issues
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:42, James Cameron wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 09:42:54PM -0300, Raul Gutierrez Segales wrote: >> Is it cheating to change the screen depth? I change it to 24 bpp and now >> cheese and totem work. Changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > > That's odd. We changed the screen depth quite a bit with XO-1.5 > development, I wonder if those changes accidentally reached XO-1 > development builds? > > (For XO-1.5 we needed the firmware, the kernel, and X to all agree on > depth so that suspend and resume would work nicely). My best guess right now is that something that was able to return a 16bpp surface is failing to do so in F11, but is manifesting itself as absurd dimensions because the caller code is not checking for that specific failure. Regards, Tomeu > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
