Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 121

2010-04-27 Thread Paul Fox
yioryos wrote:
  
  
  --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:
  
   From: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
   Subject: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 121
   To: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com
   Cc: Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC 
  fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com
   Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 7:24 PM
   martin wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  Tap to click is still working for me after using
   olpc-upgrade.
 
 Can you tell us the output of uname -a, to confirm
   you got the new
 kernel in place?
   
   it's not a kernel change -- the kernel change happened a
   release or
   two ago.  the needed change is a conf file in
   /etc/modprobe.d, which
   will come in with a new olpc-utils.
   
  
  Hopefully will be user configurable, because at home we have a
  split decision :-)  I would happy to see it going but my son
  loves it.

yes.  edit /etc/modprobe.d/olpc-psmouse.conf, and reboot.  (i
think unloading/reloading the psmouse module works when switching
in one direction, but not the other.  you need to contrive to
reset the touchpad to move the other way, and i forget how to
force that at the moment.)

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VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

Using VncLauncher-4 on F11: it fails to start the VNC server because
the binary links against the wrong version of libssl.

This activity is used very often in deployments for presentations,
training sessions, etc, so it would be nice to have a new version.

Daniel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-04-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Using VncLauncher-4 on F11: it fails to start the VNC server because
 the binary links against the wrong version of libssl.

 This activity is used very often in deployments for presentations,
 training sessions, etc, so it would be nice to have a new version.

Some time around F-11 Fedora moved from the standard vnc to tigervnc
for various different reasons (don't remember the exact time or
reasons). Do any of the tigervnc* packages provide the same
functionality?

Peter
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olpc-bios-crypto: new f-9 and f-11 builds.

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
The recent changes to antitheft-related scripts and various bugfixen
are now rolled into a new RPM for F-9 (available in the olpcxs-testing
repo), and I have also rolled a F11 RPM that works well in F12 as
well.

Unfortunately, Daniel's work to make the binaries use nice dynamically
loaded libraries had to be partially reverted, I could not make the
resulting binaries not segfault. As part of the same, I have also
partially reverted the package splitoff -- the utilities are still
bundled in the main package.

These dynlib issues do not affect functionality -- and these issues
can wait until someone who knows about dynamic library loading can
debug this.

F9 / XS-0.6
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xsrepos/testing/olpc/9/i386/olpc-bios-crypto-0.5.25.g82b8171-1.xs9.i386.rpm

F11/F12
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xsrepos/testing/olpc/11/i586/olpc-bios-crypto-0.5.22.gf963e4d-1.xs11.i586.rpm

cheers,


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Re: [Server-devel] problems installing xs-activation on F12

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 http://fedora.laptop.org/xs/stable/olpc/xs-0.6/i386/xs-activation-0.2.39.g2277cdf-1.xs9.noarch.rpm

Setup a yum repo pointing at
http://fedora.laptop.org/xsrepos/testing/olpc/11/i586/ where you'll
find

 - olpc-bios-crypto (fixed)
 - xs-tools (has had a F11 build for a while, unchanged)
 - xs-activation (built a new F11 package)

They should all work ok w F12. The only binary one (olpc-bios-crypto)
is tested to work well.

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stopwatch activity

2010-04-27 Thread Sameer Verma
I noticed something interesting with he stopwatch activity on the XO
1.5 C2 with build 120. When the XO goes into suspend, the clock stops
display, but upon resume, will show actual time elapsed (clock keep
counting).  Mark also works correctly, displaying the time when the
Mark button is clicked, irrespective of the display.  I'm not sure
what the behavior should be, though.

Should the activity prevent suspend?

cheers,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] stopwatch activity

2010-04-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Sameer Verma wrote:

 I noticed something interesting with he stopwatch activity on the XO
 1.5 C2 with build 120. When the XO goes into suspend, the clock stops
 display, but upon resume, will show actual time elapsed (clock keep
 counting).  Mark also works correctly, displaying the time when the
 Mark button is clicked, irrespective of the display.  I'm not sure
 what the behavior should be, though.

I think that's fine behavior.  Most stopwatches don't stop running by  
themselves, so I don't see why ours should.

 Should the activity prevent suspend?

My philosophy is that suspend should be _absolutely transparent_ to  
the user; i.e. its effects should not be detectable, in the same way  
that processor voltage scaling is undetectable.

This suggests that Stopwatch should inhibit suspend while it is  
visible onscreen.  I'm reluctant to do this, though, because it feels  
like an ugly hack.  The right solution would be for the suspend system  
to recognize that Stopwatch has a timer set to expire in 100 ms, and  
postpone suspend.

--Ben

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Re: [Sugar-devel] stopwatch activity

2010-04-27 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Sameer Verma wrote:

 I noticed something interesting with he stopwatch activity on the XO
 1.5 C2 with build 120. When the XO goes into suspend, the clock stops
 display, but upon resume, will show actual time elapsed (clock keep
 counting).  Mark also works correctly, displaying the time when the
 Mark button is clicked, irrespective of the display.  I'm not sure
 what the behavior should be, though.

 I think that's fine behavior.  Most stopwatches don't stop running by
 themselves, so I don't see why ours should.


Indeed, so when the numbers stop at a certain point, it looks strange.

 Should the activity prevent suspend?

 My philosophy is that suspend should be _absolutely transparent_ to the
 user; i.e. its effects should not be detectable, in the same way that
 processor voltage scaling is undetectable.

 This suggests that Stopwatch should inhibit suspend while it is visible
 onscreen.  I'm reluctant to do this, though, because it feels like an ugly
 hack.  The right solution would be for the suspend system to recognize that
 Stopwatch has a timer set to expire in 100 ms, and postpone suspend.

 --Ben



Sameer

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[Server-devel] problems installing xs-activation on F12

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Drake
http://fedora.laptop.org/xs/stable/olpc/xs-0.6/i386/xs-activation-0.2.39.g2277cdf-1.xs9.noarch.rpm

Straightforward rpm -ivh of the RPM gives dependency errors. It needs:
olpc-contents
python = 2.5
python-json
usbmount
xs-tools


olpc-contents and python-json easily installed by yum.

xs-tools requires python 2.5.

usbmount installs with the RPM.

The packages that need python-2.5 install their files in the wrong
place for a python-2.6 system.

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Re: [Server-devel] problems installing xs-activation on F12

2010-04-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 http://fedora.laptop.org/xs/stable/olpc/xs-0.6/i386/xs-activation-0.2.39.g2277cdf-1.xs9.noarch.rpm

 Straightforward rpm -ivh of the RPM gives dependency errors. It needs:
 olpc-contents
 python = 2.5
 python-json
 usbmount
 xs-tools


 olpc-contents and python-json easily installed by yum.

 xs-tools requires python 2.5.

 usbmount installs with the RPM.

 The packages that need python-2.5 install their files in the wrong
 place for a python-2.6 system.

Does a recompile of this against a F-12 system not fix the python 2.5
- 2.6 problem?

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Re: [Server-devel] problems installing xs-activation on F12

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On 27 April 2010 10:34, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does a recompile of this against a F-12 system not fix the python 2.5
 - 2.6 problem?

Probably yes, but not so sure I want to leave such a task in the hands
of the deployment here, as this is something that will have to be
repeated for time to come.
The mail was mostly to inform Martin that its not such a smooth ride
as we hoped for in another thread.

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Re: [Server-devel] problems installing xs-activation on F12

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 http://fedora.laptop.org/xs/stable/olpc/xs-0.6/i386/xs-activation-0.2.39.g2277cdf-1.xs9.noarch.rpm

On my list for today (together with olpc-bios-crypto). A rebuild of
the srpm  will probably fail because in the F9 series, the specfile
has python path hardcoded.

I have an updated spec file with paths reading from rpm macros,
together with other spec fixes, already in git.



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[Server-devel] olpc-bios-crypto - relative vs abs symlinks?

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
Curious - I see in your makefile and spec fixups you've changes the
obc-* symlinks from abs to relative. Is it better in some sense in the
context of an RPM?

(A quick check if my /usr/*bin/ on F9 build box shows a mix of abs and rel).

cheers,


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Re: [Server-devel] olpc-bios-crypto - relative vs abs symlinks?

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On 27 April 2010 11:44, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Curious - I see in your makefile and spec fixups you've changes the
 obc-* symlinks from abs to relative. Is it better in some sense in the
 context of an RPM?

Can't recall, but I suspect it would have been something in fedora
package guidelines, or a complaint from rpmlint.

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Re: [Server-devel] olpc-bios-crypto - relative vs abs symlinks?

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On 27 April 2010 11:51, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 On 27 April 2010 11:44, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Curious - I see in your makefile and spec fixups you've changes the
 obc-* symlinks from abs to relative. Is it better in some sense in the
 context of an RPM?

 Can't recall, but I suspect it would have been something in fedora
 package guidelines, or a complaint from rpmlint.

Now I recall. I was bringing it (and the spec) in line with normal packaging:

In most packaging systems, make install is run with DESTDIR as some
build root (in this case, the RPM build root), and then all the files
are moved to / during installation.

If the symlinks are made absolutely and consider DESTDIR, then they
will be broken at time of package installation (still pointing into
the RPM build root).

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Re: [Server-devel] olpc-bios-crypto - relative vs abs symlinks?

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 Now I recall. I was bringing it (and the spec) in line with normal 
 packaging:

Thanks for the clarification. Many Fedora pkgs have abs symlinks though.

I can see why it is tricky to differentiate between the target path in
the build root and the installed target path. The way I'd done it was
yielding the right results ;-)

cheers,



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[Server-devel] problema con Instalacion XS

2010-04-27 Thread Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro
Hola a todos

he notado que en algunas computadoras de escritorio especialmente con las
DELL

esta vez trate de instalar el XS en una DELL y el mensaje que aparece es



SELinux: Could not open police file =
/etc/selinux/targeted/policy/policy/policy.23: No such file or directory
Unable to load SELinux policy (No such file or directory). Halting now.


y lo mas extraño es que cuando le doy la instalación normal no cargar en
entorno gráfico del XS para la instalación

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Abrazoss..

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http://www.sistemascastros.netne.net/
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