gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you

Re: Announcing another early Android build for XO-4

2014-05-10 Thread Paul Fox
is it possible (read: has anyone tried) to install just the android half of these releases on an SD card? then dual booting would just involve inserting or removing the SD card, and trying new builds would be a lot less disruptive on the linux install. (i realize this isn't the target

Re: Announcing another early Android build for XO-4

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
When I installed the Android build on my SD card and tried booting Android, I got this error: ok: buffer@fd9c1770:151 error opening icon file So i can't even install it on the SD card to test, with or without the Linux OS. :( This does make testing painful. I think would be well worth while to

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Peter Robinson
most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi!

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: most of the gnome3

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Peter Robinson
I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? No idea, I have a bunch of XO-4s and other XO devices as I was involved in the bring up of the ARM platforms and devices. We don't

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
I'm not very savvy about video drivers but looking here: http://www.vivantecorp.com/technology/3d.html It shows the GC2000 series (which I find is in the XO-4 here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch) supports a bunch of OpenGL API's. /me confused On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Peter

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm not very savvy about video drivers but looking here: http://www.vivantecorp.com/technology/3d.html It shows the GC2000 series (which I find is in the XO-4 here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch) supports a bunch

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
How do we find that version? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm not very savvy about video drivers but looking here: http://www.vivantecorp.com/technology/3d.html It

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: How do we find that version? It's not that simple. The GC2000 is a design that's sold and is made up of a number of components (2D, 3D, video decoding etc) which vendors can chose which they pay for. You then have to adjust

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi Scott, On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? There is indeed a GPU capable of 3D graphics in the hardware, but we never completed the engineering effort required to make

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Paul Fox
scott wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? i think it's fine if you

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chapman
Paul, The Gnome Control Panel is not present in the build. Am I missing something or is it left out also? How do you edit the menu system in Gnome without it, etc? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: scott wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Paul Fox
scott wrote: Paul, The Gnome Control Panel is not present in the build. Am I missing something or is it left out also? How do you edit the menu system in Gnome without it, etc? i think you need to think about this differently: this isn't a gnome laptop. this is a sugar laptop, with

Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Drake
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Paul, The Gnome Control Panel is not present in the build. Am I missing something or is it left out also? You aren't missing anything - based on feedback from OLPC's deployments we always tried to ship a minimal GNOME

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar... On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Abente
great!! Let me know when you have an image with this! On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar... On 10 May 2014 01:22,