Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Mitch Bradley
Mike C. Fletcher wrote: > It's not About the Hardware: In principle, that is true. In practice, it is the hardware that has been responsible for all the attention. If the project had been just a software framework to support constructivist education, the worldwide response would have been "h

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Nov 25, 2007 10:57 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike C. Fletcher writes: > > > If we are serious in our goal of educating children, we need to do a > > few things, and some of this requires a readjustment and a > > detachment from the question of which hardware goes where. Do

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bernardo Innocenti writes: > On 11/25/07 18:58, Mike C. Fletcher wrote: >> * we need to make use on multi-user machines easy, where Sugar >> is just a desktop manager session that is run just as one >> would run KDE or Gnome (so that computing lab situations can >> let children use Sugar's s

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mike C. Fletcher writes: > If we are serious in our goal of educating children, we need to do a > few things, and some of this requires a readjustment and a > detachment from the question of which hardware goes where. Does the > hardware matter? Yes. Standardized hardware means I can count on h

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Nov 26, 2007 1:07 AM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder what's the status of Debian and Ubuntu for running > on the OLPC. Once the platform part works well out of the > box, installing sugar should be just a matter of using alien. # olpc-update debian > AFAIK, both the

Re: grassroots olpc 3d support: second life / youtube

2007-11-25 Thread James Cameron
Suggestions ... obtain a wireframe and render model of an XO and animate it. I'm not into that community, but it would probably look nicer than the static imagery. -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mail

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
On 11/25/07 18:58, Mike C. Fletcher wrote: > * we should port to the other inexpensive laptops, if a country > decides to go with EEEs or Classmates, we should be in there > offering an EEE or Classmate-optimised Sugar + Activities + > Content that they can lo

grassroots olpc 3d support: second life / youtube

2007-11-25 Thread Todd Kelsey
for anyone who is interested, there are a couple of non-official grassroots experiments going on; one involving the second life equivalent of a banner ad pointing to laptopgiving.org, the other involving some flash-based tinkering with static 3D images. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/3d (note: if you

New update1 build 642

2007-11-25 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/update1/build642/ -CartoonBuilder-1.xo -ClockActivity-3.xo -Dictionary-1.xo -FlipSticks-1.xo -Gmail-2.xo -JigsawPuzzle-2.xo -JokeMachine-6.xo -LearningCenter-3.xo -MaMaMediaMenu-2.xo -Memorize-20.xo +Memorize-21.xo -Poll-12.xo -SimCity-2.xo -SliderPuzz

Re: where should I put additional libraries in an activity bundle?

2007-11-25 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
On 11/25/07 05:11, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Yes. Then set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your startup code and it should work > fine. > > Possibly even Sugar/Rainbow should set up that environment. I agree. As a general rule, we should try to mimimize the number of code changes required to make existing

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi Michael and all, i agree with your thoughts about MikMik, it would be a nice tool to do feedback , although yet its not entirely sugarized. i did an early work that's on http://dev.laptop.org/~rafael/MikMik-8.xo but is not yet finished. so would be nice if somebody could help out with this

Re: Networking hangs

2007-11-25 Thread Hal Murray
> Which laptop model? Early B3 board in a B2 case. > When the symptom is happening, check to see if the USB enumeration has > changed ... I use lsusb grabbed from another system, but there's also > something in /proc perhaps. The kernel logs should also mention > changes to the USB device list.

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Michael Burns
James, you might have heard of this software, but I'll share for the rest of the list that might not have seen in in the pipeline... On Nov 25, 2007 4:33 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1, insightful, useful. Some of the feedback mirrors what some of the > recent Wiki questions h

Re: Networking hangs

2007-11-25 Thread Kim Quirk
Please try Update1, build 641. The latest wireless firmware and kernel changes for the 4470 fix are in this build. Thanks, Kim On Nov 25, 2007 7:44 PM, Javier Cardona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Hal, > > On 11/25/07, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After a while (1 to several hour

Re: Networking hangs

2007-11-25 Thread Javier Cardona
Hi Hal, On 11/25/07, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a while (1 to several hours), the network stops working. The mouse > still works, at least until I try something that's too complicated. > (...) > Is this a known problem? If not, what should I do to get more info? ... This sou

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 06:58:29PM -0500, Mike C. Fletcher wrote: > [...] +1, insightful, useful. Some of the feedback mirrors what some of the recent Wiki questions have covered, and I agree, we seem to lack involvement in the Wiki from the trial deployments, the teacher training, and the softwa

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Eric wrote: > The WSJ article and video post were what one would expect from them: > focused on the financial, and not cultural or societal, aspects of the > project. The thrust seemed to be how it would affect the Intel and/or > AMD stock price, and the implication was that since the XO price is

Re: Networking hangs

2007-11-25 Thread James Cameron
Which laptop model? When the symptom is happening, check to see if the USB enumeration has changed ... I use lsusb grabbed from another system, but there's also something in /proc perhaps. The kernel logs should also mention changes to the USB device list. Which kernel driver is being used for t

Networking hangs

2007-11-25 Thread Hal Murray
I'm running os637 over a USB Ethernet. After a while (1 to several hours), the network stops working. The mouse still works, at least until I try something that's too complicated. os623 didn't have this problem. I haven't figured out what I'm doing (if anything) to trigger this. There are se

New joyride build 339

2007-11-25 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build339/ -Memorize-21.xo +Memorize-22.xo --- Memorize-22 --- * Brought the drumgit game back (erikos) * Release sound device when not in focus (erikos) -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.

Re: where should I put additional libraries in an activity bundle?

2007-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 25, 2007, at 1:44 , Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hey all, > > Daniel and me are just sitting here and working on the activity > handbook > when we came across the following question: > > Is there a defined directory or way how additional libraries should be > included in an activity bun