Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello,

we need to enable security in the Update.1 images, since the plan is
to ship with it enabled. Looks like it's turned off in pilgrim at the
moment.

463  echo   - turning off security by default
464  rm -f $INSTALL_ROOT/etc/olpc-security

Dennis, we are planning to request approval for a few more packages
this afternoon, it would be good to make a new build with all of this
in.

Marco
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Re: updated GStreamer RPMs

2007-12-15 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
On 12/14/07 23:30, Chris Ball wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We're planning to rebase on Fedora 8 for Update 2, but it's good to
 be able to preview these ahead of time.
 
 Has this been proposed somewhere?  I don't think I agree with it.
 I don't disagree strongly, but just enough that I'll stop someone
 from talking about it as if it's already been decided.  ;-)

  http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-December/008328.html


 (My reason for disagreeing is the standard progress vs. support
 dichotomy.  I'd rather we kept the base OS as a known quantity
 but worked really hard on things like performance.)

I'm also not strongly biased.  The reason I'm in favor of upgrading
is that it would help us cleaning up a number of packages newer
than F7 that we were already carrying.

Moreover, some experimentation shows that it would be somewhat
painless.  The only problem I experienced was the one I
mentioned with hal.

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Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
The location of the Update.1 builds has changed:

http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/

I'm not sure if it's the final location but it would be to update the
Changelog to point to it.

http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-pkgs.html

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Re: Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 7:41 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The location of the Update.1 builds has changed:

 http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/

 I'm not sure if it's the final location but it would be to update the
 Changelog to point to it.

 http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-pkgs.html

Almost the final location.  As documented in trac bug #5279,
ultimately all builds will be transferred to download.laptop.org after
passing an automated test.  So pilgrim is the 'final location' until
we get the automated test infrastructure running, then everything will
move to its real final home on download.laptop.org.
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Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 15, 2007 3:14 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 15, 2007 7:35 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Dec 14, 2007 11:01 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Declaring code freeze for Update.1 today would not see a rational
   resolution of these issue.  As promised, this is a release that is
   driven by completion of content, rather than driven by necessity of
   hardware schedules.
 
  On the Sugar side, the main reason of the delay is that dealing with
  the various release process steps has been a lot more painful then it
  needs to be. We wasted a *lot* of time there.

 My personal feeling is that we created update.1 too soon.  IMO
 development should have been occurring in the joyride builds up until
 code freeze (yesterday, or a week from yesterday).  There's no reason
 to fork update.1 just for string freezes; translation can still occur
 in the joyride branch.  Code freeze is the point at which we should
 fork the builds.

I agree that branching should happen at code freeze. But then
ApprovalForUpdate should only be introduced *after* the freeze and
update.X should be branched from joyride. Otherwise ApprovalForUpdate
tickets accumulate for weeks, until we branch, and then we get to
cleanup the mess.

We already have an approval step in place (Update.1? - target
Update.1) and IMO that's enough for the development period.

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Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 15, 2007 3:54 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 C. Scott Ananian wrote:

  My personal feeling is that we created update.1 too soon.  IMO
  development should have been occurring in the joyride builds up until
  code freeze (yesterday, or a week from yesterday).  There's no reason
  to fork update.1 just for string freezes; translation can still occur
  in the joyride branch.  Code freeze is the point at which we should
  fork the builds.  I approve of delaying code freeze slightly in the
  interest of making the freeze firmer when it occurs.

 +1

 The moment we create a release branch and start cherry picking
 packages for inclusion one by one, we effectively are already
 in some sort of code freeze.

 Many centralized projects I've worked for tend to have a 2/3
 development and 1/3 code freeze time share in each release cycle,
 which seem like a good compromise for a lightweight development
 process that still allows enough time for stabilization.

 Moreover, I was very confused by the fact that we branched Update.1
 from Ship.2 rather than from Joyride, which I still considered our
 development trunk.  Until a few days ago, I've been working under
 the assumption that all the work I had done in Joyride before
 Dec 15 would implicitly show up in Update.1.

Exactly. Can we get this right for Update.2? :)

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Re: Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
Scott,

The Roadmap lists activity isolation as a release criterion for
Update.1. Was there a public announcement that I missed explaining why
activity isolation was ever turned off?

Thanks,

Michael

On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:43PM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
 Hello,
 
 we need to enable security in the Update.1 images, since the plan is
 to ship with it enabled. Looks like it's turned off in pilgrim at the
 moment.
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Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 10:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 15, 2007 3:54 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Moreover, I was very confused by the fact that we branched Update.1
  from Ship.2 rather than from Joyride, which I still considered our
  development trunk.  Until a few days ago, I've been working under
  the assumption that all the work I had done in Joyride before
  Dec 15 would implicitly show up in Update.1.

 Exactly. Can we get this right for Update.2? :)

I believe this has been a source of a lot of confusion, and one which
I keep running out of time to ensure we discuss at our Tuesday
meetings.  I'm speaking for jg here, and I might be wrong, but my
understanding is that JG wanted to ensure he could keep tabs on
exactly what was changing between ship.2 and update.1, but that
update.1 will be (eventually) substantially the same as joyride at
the time of code freeze.  We'll pull a diff and make sure that if any
joyride-at-time-of-code-freeze package is *not* in update.1, we know
exactly why.  We have had differences of opinion here, so I probably
shouldn't try to elaborate further.
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Re: updated GStreamer RPMs

2007-12-15 Thread Walter Bender
Yes. We need to discuss this in detail. Let's get over the Update.1
hurdle and regroup, hopefully with better mechanisms for discussion
and vetting.

-walter

On Dec 15, 2007 7:46 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 15, 2007 1:12 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Moreover, some experimentation shows that it would be somewhat
  painless.  The only problem I experienced was the one I
  mentioned with hal.

 I don't really think your testing proves much in this regard. You only
 really figure out what breaks when you start doing serious testing.
 I'd like to see stronger arguments in favor of the upgrade, before
 deciding to take the risks and the costs.

 Marco

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Re: Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

I've attempted to remove the ship.2-specific patches from pilgrim's
update.1 branch and synchronize it with joyride.  That should
enable security, but it looks like ohm might not be started until
cjb addresses trac #5509 (see also trac #5510 and 5511).

#5509's been done since before Ship.2 was released, so all clear from me.

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Activity Icon design question

2007-12-15 Thread Gerard J. Cerchio
Hi all,

I am thinking about using 9 different icons for the PlayGo Activity.

The icon will reflect the number of handicap stones that the black 
player starts with.

The icon will have from 1 to 9 black dots on the board star points.

This could be used to offer people games in the neighborhood so that the 
joining person knows the limit if the handicap stones the initiator will 
offer.

Two questions:

   1. Is it possible for sugar to set and propagate a change in the
  activity icon?
   2. Is the concept of a morphing activity icon withing the HIG?

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Re: Builds and release process

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 15, 2007 5:27 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've started building my own images a few weeks ago and found
 that it is not at all difficult. All I had to do was really
 cloning the pilgrim repo and changing the build name from
 joyride to xtest.  A build generally takes 10 minutes on my
 desktop PC.  My build system is x86_64 and Fedora 8.  Anything
 that would run a mock chroot would probably work.

Care to put quick instructions on the wiki? This is something I wanted
to do several times, but never felt to invest the time to learn how.

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OLPC News 2007-12-15

2007-12-15 Thread Walter Bender
1. Kuala Lumpur: Matt Keller attended the Global Knowledge Conference
this past week; the conference brought together over 2000 people from
around the world. Matt was part of a BBC World debate on technology
and the developing world generally, and the XO specifically. While
most of the panelists were somewhat critical of olpc and OLPC, the
audience was very much in favor. The debate will be broadcast on BBC
World on five different occasions in January.

2. Montevideo: Michail Bletsas attended a technical meeting organized
by LATU to discuss the technical requirements for the connectivity
infrastructure of the schools in the Colonia and Durazno districts:
the next (after Florida) to get XO laptops after school commences
again in March. The main purpose of the meeting was to discuss the
main requirements of the RFP that is going to be issued in the next
few days. Michail also spent several hours at LATU discussing
connectivity details with the Ceibal team and left Uruguay impressed
with both the enthusiasm of the people involved in the project as well
as their accomplishments.

3. Cambridge: The learning team (Carla Gomez Munroy, Ed Baafi, Julian
Daily, Mel King, and David Cavallo) conducted the second monthly
workshop for countries. Attending were teams from Mongolia, Panama,
the city of Birmingham, Alabama, the US State Department for schools
in Iraq, and Calestus Juma as both a contributor and looking towards
Kenya and East Africa. The week went extremely well and most
encouraging is how participants are turning themselves into a strong
network for advancing learning in their countries. Special thanks also
to Erik Blankinship, Bakhtiar Mikhak, Ben Schwartz, and Shannon
Sullivan for demoing their activities on the XO during an afternoon
open house. The youth from the Learn to Teach: Teach to Learn program
working with Ed and Mel once again presented their work and
convincingly demonstrated the tremendous benefits for both the
teachers and learners when kids teach other kids.

4. Schedules: We did not quite get to code freeze today and will need
a few more days to get the most important bugs fixed for the Update1
release. (As Jim Gettys pointed out, the Update.1 release is driven by
completion of content, rather than driven by necessity of hardware
schedules.) We will start creating candidate releases next week.
Please see http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap for the list of bugs being
addressed and to look ahead to what we would like to go into Update.2.
Testing should be on-going on the Update.1 (stabilizing for release in
mid-January) and Joyride streams (mainline, features/fixes for
Update.2).

There is a discussion on the devel list about how to improve the build
process. Please feel free to make additional suggestions: we want to
the process to be more efficient for everyone.

5. Support Issues: A problem was found in Uruguay where where laptops
were losing the ability to display their Journal contents and launch
activities. Ivan Krstić did some heroic emergency debugging, created a
patch, and helped them to distribute a fix to all the students before
they were released for their summer vacation. There was also a problem
found in manufacturing where Spanish language laptops were booting up
in English. These two fixes, along with support for WPA were combined
into a patch release, Ship2-653, that should be available for
manufacturing early next week and to the general public soon
thereafter. People interested in testing this patch can download the
signed version (See http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/653/).

The first G1G1 recipients have started receiving laptops this week.
That means the calls, emails, IRC questions, and new community members
are beginning to show up all over. This week Adam Holt set up these
two Support wiki pages: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support and
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ, which is a good launching point
for FAQs, as well as community-supported email, portals, and IRC. He
also set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] and has begun the task of answering many
emails.

6. Documentation: We have a number of new pages on laptop.org geared
towards helping introduce the laptop to new users (Please see
http://laptop.org/start). These pages will evolve (and hopefully
improve) over the next few weeks as we get a better sense of the types
of questions people are asking from the field—we've deployed more
laptops in the past few weeks than in the entirety of our beta
programs, so we expect a lot of valuable feedback in the coming days.
Your feedback on these pages would also be greatly appreciated: please
send email to walter AT laptop.org. The plan is to make these getting
started pages available for translation in Pootle over the next week
or so. Note that the page devoted to describing the activities
(http://laptop.org/en/laptop/start/activities.shtml) directs people to
the individual activity pages in the wiki, e.g.,
wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal. Please help us tidy up those pages as

Re: Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 10:38 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 15, 2007 4:36 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The Roadmap lists activity isolation as a release criterion for
  Update.1. Was there a public announcement that I missed explaining why
  activity isolation was ever turned off?

 Michael, I don't think it was turned off. We branched update.1 from
 ship.2, and ship.2 had security disabled.

Yes, I meant to create an update.1 branch for pilgrim based on
joyride's pilgrim, but instead update.1 builds started being made from
the old ship.2 branch (the state of the 'old' update.1 right before it
was renamed to ship.2).  I've gone through the diffs from joyride to
update.1 carefully now, and with the exception of trac #5510
(evince-olpc renaming), trac #5153 (olpc-network-capture needs to be
moved to olpc-utils), trac #5511(uncertain whether library cleanup has
been done upstream), and the list of Activities (walter has promised
me an updated list), the diff looks sane.

FWIW, I have a number of pending pilgrim changes for update.1/joyride
still: trac #3881 might require generation of a 'USB upgrade' blob for
devel_jffs; trac #5320 (sshd configuration tweak); trac #5371
(olpc.fth tweak).  They'll land in both update.1 and joyride before
code freeze.
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Re: multiple MTD partitions

2007-12-15 Thread Walter Bender
 but unfortunately have not got feedback, and I suspect one of the reasons is
 that it is too difficult to boot UBIFS on XO.

I think you would be well served by making it clearer to people what
the goals are of UBIFS relative to existing systems, such as JFFS2, on
the XO. This may motivate more people to both do the testing and it
may help better focus the feedback.

thanks.

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Re: Builds and release process

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 11:52 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott has written very detailed instructions on how to do this but his
 documentation is currently located on the internalwiki in pursuit of, in
 my view, security by obscurity. Since I am not maintaining these
 servers, I do not wish to contradict his choice by publishing the
 contents of the server configuration pages; however, you might chat with
 him about ways that he would feel comfortable making this information
 more broadly visible.

Michael, you're grossly mischaracterizing -- and being unhelpful to boot.

Michael wrote a very useful README.olpc in the pilgrim source tree
which describes how to set up pilgrim.  The only details on the
internalwiki are machine-specific configuration which will not be
useful to you.  Patches to README.olpc are always welcome.  The only
thing you really need is the pointer to git:
   http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/pilgrim

The 'master' branch is generally what you need; there are separate
branches for (again) machine-specific configuration (the 'autobuild'
branch covers integration of pilgrim with our joyride build system,
which is constantly changing).  Sometimes branch-specific changes
creep into (say) the ship.2 build which aren't in master; I try to
avoid that whenever possible.  Contributions to pilgrim should be made
against the master branch.

All this said, I really think that running your own pilgrim instance
will only slow down your development process unless you are (like
marco and bernie) responsible for a large number of inter-related
packages.  In general, RPM installing your modified packages on top of
the latest joyride build is the recommended development process --
it's a lot faster!
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Re: LOLPC

2007-12-15 Thread Erik Blankinship
... and in a similar vein:

http://cfrey.us/~erikb/ODDPC/


On 12/15/07, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 15, 2007 1:14 AM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  http://live.laptop.org/~krstic/lolpc.jpg
 
  It had to be done.

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New joyride build 1430

2007-12-15 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1430/

-WikiBrowse-8.xo
+WikiBrowse-9.xo
-iptables.i386 0:1.3.8-2.1.fc7
+iptables.i386 0:1.3.8-6.fc7
-iptables-ipv6.i386 0:1.3.8-2.1.fc7
+iptables-ipv6.i386 0:1.3.8-6.fc7
-libshout.i386 0:2.2.2-1.fc6
+libshout.i386 0:2.2.2-2.fc7
-pam.i386 0:0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7
+pam.i386 0:0.99.7.1-5.2.fc7

--- WikiBrowse-9 ---
  * Updated to work in /home/olpc/Activities, where downloads will go

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New joyride build 1431

2007-12-15 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1431/

-Journal-80.xo
+Journal-81.xo
-Web-79.xo
+Web-80.xo

--- Journal-81 ---
* Allow use of gamekeys and home/end, #3960 (rwh)
* Focus does not escape from listview, #3771 (rwh)
* Change resume icon color, #4326 (rwh)
* Use standard star icon, #4327 (rwh)

--- Web-80 ---
* Update the progress of downloads less often #5449 (tomeu)

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Re: [PATCH] Make the OLPC build not depend on mkinitrd

2007-12-15 Thread Andres Salomon
Thanks, comments are inline.


On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:46:03 +0100
Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ---
  SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec |8 +++-
  buildd.sh   |2 +-
  2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec b/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec
 index c823a54..2ead835 100644
 --- a/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec
 +++ b/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec
 @@ -15,6 +15,9 @@ Summary: The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating 
 system)
  %define buildkdump 0
  %define buildheaders 1
  
 +# Disable debuginfo package because it makes the build fail
 +%define _enable_debug_packages 0
 +
  # Versions of various parts

There's no need to attempt to maintain any sort of compatibility with
the fedora kernel spec file.  Rather than unsetting variables and keeping
tons of crap in the .spec file, I'd just as soon rip out anything that's
related to _enable_debug_packages.

How does it make the build fail, though?  I haven't see that...

  
  # After branching, please hardcode these values as the
 @@ -213,8 +216,11 @@ Summary: The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux 
 operating system)
  #
  # Packages that need to be installed before the kernel is, because the %post
  # scripts use them.
 +# On the OLPC, we use a fancy initrd that doesn't rely on mkinitrd
 +# We drop mkinitrd because it also drags in lvm2 and other nasty dependencies
  #
 -%define kernel_prereq  fileutils, module-init-tools, initscripts = 
 8.11.1-1, mkinitrd = 4.2.21-1
 +%define kernel_prereq  fileutils, module-init-tools, initscripts = 8.11.1-1 
 \
 + %{?!olpc:, mkinitrd = 4.2.21-1}
  

I just dropped the mkinitrd bit completely; no need for an OLPC test.

  Name: kernel
  Group: System Environment/Kernel
 diff --git a/buildd.sh b/buildd.sh
 index 24ba127..6e8de51 100755
 --- a/buildd.sh
 +++ b/buildd.sh
 @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ GITWEB=http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=olpc-2.6;
  if [ x$BRANCH = x ]; then
   BRANCH=master
  fi
 -BUILDDIR=/home/dilinger/public_html/builds-${BRANCH}
 +BUILDDIR=$HOME/public_html/builds-${BRANCH}
  BASE=$BUILDDIR/`date '+%s'`
  
  SUBLEVEL=$(wget -O- ${GITWEB};a=blob_plain;hb=${BRANCH};f=Makefile 
 2/dev/null | sed -ne 
 's/^.*SUBLEVEL[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*\([0-9]\+\).*$/\1/p')

Thanks, committed this separately.
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Re: [PATCH] Make the OLPC build not depend on mkinitrd

2007-12-15 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Andres Salomon wrote:

 There's no need to attempt to maintain any sort of compatibility with
 the fedora kernel spec file.  Rather than unsetting variables and keeping
 tons of crap in the .spec file, I'd just as soon rip out anything that's
 related to _enable_debug_packages.

YES!  Please!


 How does it make the build fail, though?  I haven't see that...

I got an error No build ID note found that I tracked inside
/usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh

Now I realized it's probably a Fedora 8 specific problem...


 I just dropped the mkinitrd bit completely; no need for an OLPC test.

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Re: Builds and release process

2007-12-15 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:

 Care to put quick instructions on the wiki? This is something I wanted
 to do several times, but never felt to invest the time to learn how.

Done: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Building_custom_images

As usual, my questionable English needs some fixing, and I couldn't
find the documentation in the internal wiki that mstone was talking
about.

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Re: Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 Almost the final location.  As documented in trac bug #5279,
 ultimately all builds will be transferred to download.laptop.org after
 passing an automated test.  So pilgrim is the 'final location' until
 we get the automated test infrastructure running, then everything will
 move to its real final home on download.laptop.org.

Is joyride also moving?

Please, remember to update the links in the wiki, especially the
template that prints the summary information in the main page:

  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Template:Latest_Releases

Where are the development builds? has been a FAQ on IRC for
some time.

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New joyride build 1432

2007-12-15 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1432/

-cpio.i386 0:2.6-28.fc7
-dmraid.i386 0:1.0.0.rc14-4.fc7
-findutils.i386 1:4.2.29-2
-gzip.i386 0:1.3.11-2.fc7
-kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071213.7.olpc.807beb7d0b8a49a
+kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071215.21.olpc.6fce16b65e15831
-kpartx.i386 0:0.4.7-11.fc7
-less.i386 0:394-9.fc7
-libdhcp4client.i386 12:3.0.5-40.fc7
-libdhcp6client.i386 0:0.10-44.fc7
-libdhcp.i386 0:1.24-4.fc7
-lvm2.i386 0:2.02.24-1.fc7
-mkinitrd.i386 0:6.0.9-7.1
-nash.i386 0:6.0.9-7.1
-olpc-utils.i386 0:0.53-1.olpc2
+olpc-utils.i386 0:0.58-1.olpc2
-parted.i386 0:1.8.6-4.fc7
-tar.i386 2:1.15.1-28.fc7

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