"sugarize" tool and Tux Paint

2007-12-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
I wrote a tool to make normal X programs to run under sugar. As a demo, it runs a logo program. http://dev.laptop.org/~albert/xlogo-1.xo http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/albert/sugarize;a=summary How it works: A launcher program places Sugar's incompatible command arguments into the environment,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-12-28 Thread Roman Czyborra
1. Project name : ucs 2. Existing website, if any : http://czyborra.com/yudit/ 3. One-line description : the cheapest available unicode support 4. Longer description : we configure a multilingual text input system : using stable and flexible xterm/

Re: I got a developer key -- now what? :)

2007-12-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Chris Ball wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> I signed up for a developer key, so I have one now. But what can I >>> do with it? >> >> You can do anything that you'd expect to do with a standard laptop; >> install any operating system, and flash a new BIOS. >> >>

Re: attempt to access beyond end of device

2007-12-28 Thread Charles Galpin
On Dec 28, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Charles Galpin wrote: > Hi All, first time poster, happy to be part of this community > > How I got here: I downloaded an olpc image, expanded it to 2G using > gpartd per the wiki, wrote it to a USB stick, booted my XO off it, > added dome dev tools and started build

Java question

2007-12-28 Thread Cay Horstmann
I am trying to find out how to run Java GUI applications on the OLPC. I installed Java by downloading and executing jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin It works--if I ssh -X into the machine from a Linux box, I can successfully run Java Web Start applications such as /usr/java/jre1.6.0_03/bin/javaws http

Re: I got a developer key -- now what? :)

2007-12-28 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >> I signed up for a developer key, so I have one now. But what can I >> do with it? > > You can do anything that you'd expect to do with a standard laptop; > install any operating system, and flash a new BIOS. > >> How can I be sure I'm not going to nuke

Re: Unofficial Debian+XFCE build

2007-12-28 Thread Jake Beard
I've installed this per your instructions, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have three questions: 1. The build appears to take up a bit over 400MB on disk. Were you aware of this? 2. /versions/boot/alt seems to point to /version/pristine/f7b6242983ab837d642bacbffe32cc8. Doing ln -sf /versions/

Re: I got a developer key -- now what? :)

2007-12-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > I signed up for a developer key, so I have one now. But what can I > do with it? You can do anything that you'd expect to do with a standard laptop; install any operating system, and flash a new BIOS. > How can I be sure I'm not going to nuke the XO beyond all recovery? > Is

I got a developer key -- now what? :)

2007-12-28 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
I signed up for a developer key, so I have one now. But what can I do with it? How can I be sure I'm not going to nuke the XO beyond all recovery? Is there some kind of documentation on what's risky and what's safe? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.lapt

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread David W Hogg
Thanks to all who responded. Perhaps surprisingly, these emails clarified some of the issues for me. Will ponder and license, hopefully soon. Then I will apply for git hosting and etc. On Dec 28, 2007 6:37 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > about the *technical* reasons and diffe

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
John Gilmore wrote: > Don't forget SimCity, which is shipped on the laptop in the Library, > and is GPLv3+. As we discussed on IRC, the XO bundles would need to carry around at least the license, copyright and author information in the .info file. > (Also, info is actually GPLv3+; I'm filing a

joyride image Jffs2 on usb ?

2007-12-28 Thread fr�ffffffffffe9d�ffffffffffe9ric
Hello On the latest build http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/latest/devel_jffs2/ There is a file that ends with jffs2.usb Does it mean that you can use jffs2 on usb ? I tried to dd it to my usb , but the olpc won t boot it Anyone knows how to use it ? Anyone knows how to m

Re: Unofficial Debian+XFCE build

2007-12-28 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:15:36 -0500 Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While waiting for the servers to finish churning last night, I put > together an UNOFFICIAL Debian "etch" 4.0 + XFCE4 build for the XO. It > includes Firefox, Thunderbird, a suite of development tools (python, > git,

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
BTW... 'free' is a vauge and funny term. I'd argue that BSD and Apache are much freer then GPL because they push no terms upon the users. Others would probably argue that GPL is "more free' because what it pushes on the users is that they must in term make their code free. Its all in how you loo

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
On Dec 28, 2007 6:37 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I negotiated with a lot of companies as co-founder of Cygnus, which > develops and supports free software for companies that use it. (It's > now part of Red Hat.) Licensing your code under Apache, GPLv2, > GPLv2+, or GPLv3+ prot

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread John Gilmore
> > Only one or two pieces of software on the laptop are presently GPLv3 > Specifically, > # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{name} %{license}\n' | grep GPLv3 | sort > espeak GPLv3+ > gnash GPLv3+ > gnash-plugin GPLv3+ > info GPLv3 Don't forget SimCity, which is shipped on the laptop in the Library, and

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 22, Issue 123 (licencia)

2007-12-28 Thread Fiorella Haim
Estaré fuera de la oficina hasta el 15 de enero. Por consultas, por favor contactar a Albana Nogueira o a Ana Hernández. ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I´ll be out of the office until January 15. Please contact Albana Nogueira or Ana Hernández ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) if y

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread John Gilmore
> > about the *technical* reasons and differences. > Apache or GPLv2 is fine. Anything that is GPL-compatable will be acceptable. Gnash is GPLv3, and it's on the OLPC. The latest versions of many other GNU programs are GPLv3 too, and will also make it into later OLPC releases as it gets rebased

NAND FLASH wear-out

2007-12-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
> >> I would hate to fill up my 1GB and use all my flash write cycles... >> The probability of wearing out NAND FLASH is much less than people seem to think. The part is rated for 100,000 *erase* cycles per block. There are 64 independently-writable 2K pages per block. Writing doesn't c

Re: Unofficial Debian+XFCE build

2007-12-28 Thread Jake Beard
Cool :) Jake On Dec 28, 2007 4:15 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While waiting for the servers to finish churning last night, I put > together an UNOFFICIAL Debian "etch" 4.0 + XFCE4 build for the XO. It > includes Firefox, Thunderbird, a suite of development tools (python, > git, g

Re: Unofficial Debian+XFCE build

2007-12-28 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 28, 2007, at 4:17 PM, ffm wrote: > Can this be installed to an external hard disk and be booted off of? With a bit of work. > I would hate to fill up my 1GB and use all my flash write cycles... If you keep the Sugar build in place and add this one, you'd only fill up about half the flas

Re: Unofficial Debian+XFCE build

2007-12-28 Thread ffm
Can this be installed to an external hard disk and be booted off of? I would hate to fill up my 1GB and use all my flash write cycles... -ffm On Dec 28, 2007 4:15 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While waiting for the servers to finish churning last night, I put > together an UNOFFIC

Unofficial Debian+XFCE build

2007-12-28 Thread Ivan Krstić
While waiting for the servers to finish churning last night, I put together an UNOFFICIAL Debian "etch" 4.0 + XFCE4 build for the XO. It includes Firefox, Thunderbird, a suite of development tools (python, git, gcc, gdb, flex, bison, automake, autoconf, libtool), a music player (XMMS), IRC

Re: closed lists

2007-12-28 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 12:50 -0500, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Dec 28, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > > Are our spam filters good enough to make our lists > > open for posting by non-members? > > The only spam filter good enough for that is Dave Woodhouse. > Inspecting every e-mail b

Need recommendation for compatible wireless hardware

2007-12-28 Thread Carol Lerche
Does someone know of a USB wireless card/device that incorporates the Marvell chipset and is compatible with the olpc driver? I am trying to provision a "school server" on conventional hardware to support the four xos that I will be placing in a school. I have just discovered that the xos will n

Re: Official signed ship.2 build 654

2007-12-28 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 28, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Ivan Krstić wrote: > Now available here: > This build has been retracted due to a QA issue. If you have obtained a copy of this build, you are not advised to use it. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Re: closed lists

2007-12-28 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 28, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Are our spam filters good enough to make our lists > open for posting by non-members? The only spam filter good enough for that is Dave Woodhouse. Inspecting every e-mail by hand. Spammers quake at the very thought. (No.) -- Ivan Krsti

Anyone built mtpaint?

2007-12-28 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
Hey all, Quick question. I need a bit more then rgbpaint will give me for game development, but gimp seems way too heavy for the OLPC (yum install gimp ended up blowing up with out of memory, never mind the app itself.) Has anyone done a build of mtpaint for the OLPC I could snag? Thanks JK

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Ivan Krstić wrote: > Only one or two pieces of software on the laptop are > presently GPLv3-licensed. Specifically, # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{name} %{license}\n' | grep GPLv3 | sort espeak GPLv3+ gnash GPLv3+ gnash-plugin GPLv3+ info GPLv3 The number will increase slightly when/if we re

closed lists

2007-12-28 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Replying to cross-posts results in this annoying moderation stuff. Are our spam filters good enough to make our lists open for posting by non-members? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your mail to 'Localization' with the subject > > Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

Official signed ship.2 build 654

2007-12-28 Thread Ivan Krstić
Now available here: The only difference from 653 is the inclusion of OFW Q2D07: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/source/olpc/utils> ./diffbuildlog.py build653.log build654.log Comparing 654 to baseline 653... 654 version change for bootfw: q2d06-

attempt to access beyond end of device

2007-12-28 Thread Charles Galpin
Hi All, first time poster, happy to be part of this community How I got here: I downloaded an olpc image, expanded it to 2G using gpartd per the wiki, wrote it to a USB stick, booted my XO off it, added dome dev tools and started building the kernel (slowly :) ). Despite having 400M free, I

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Jim Gettys wrote: > I guess there may have been misunderstanding: since the beginning of > December (or maybe before), only things intended for Update.1 and issues > approved for fixing in Update.1 needing testing were supposed to be > loaded into joyride. I heard this also from C.Scott. It's not

New ship.2 build 655

2007-12-28 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/ship.2/build655/ -kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071121.7.olpc.af3dd731d18bc39 +kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071228.bernie15.olpc.af3dd -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/ship.2-pkgs.html

Re: [PATCH] [XoIRC] Make default nicks more meaningful (#5385)

2007-12-28 Thread Phil Bordelon
Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 at 18:36:49 -0600, Phil Bordelon wrote: >> By default, XoIRC uses the username when another nick is not >> provided. Alas, for every XO, this is 'olpc'. This makes for >> rather a mess in the IRC channels. > >> This patch instead generates a more-meani

Re: Toolbar in OLPCGames

2007-12-28 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Ross Andrews wrote: ... > Thank you, this is exactly the sort of response I was looking for! > Happy to help. > This seems to work: > > def build_toolbar(self): > toolbar=super(Activity, self).build_toolbar() > helpbut = ToolButton('activity')#Stock help icon >

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:22 AM, David W Hogg wrote: > Is there are requirement that > OLPC items be GPLv3, or can they be GPLv2 and/or Apache? There's absolutely no such requirement. We will accept any GPL- compatible license, but generally prefer one of {GPL, MIT, BSD}. I'm an OLPC core develope

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, ffm wrote: > Apache or GPLv2 is fine. Anything that is GPL-compatable will be acceptable. Just to be clear, the Apache License v2 is only compatible with GPLv3: Apache License, Version 2.0 This is a free software license, compatible with version 3 of the GPL. P

Re: licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread ffm
Apache or GPLv2 is fine. Anything that is GPL-compatable will be acceptable. -ffm On Dec 28, 2007 11:22 AM, David W Hogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear developers, > > Since I am *loving* my G1G1 (yes I recovered it from the brick I made > it yesterday), I am inspired to finally get my planet

licensing: GPLv2, v3, and Apache

2007-12-28 Thread David W Hogg
Dear developers, Since I am *loving* my G1G1 (yes I recovered it from the brick I made it yesterday), I am inspired to finally get my planetarium software properly licensed and put into the git repository, with the hope that someday it will be part of the large menu of applications along the botto

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 28, 2007 5:12 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd recommend not closing the bugs until you ask for approval for update > (are finished with the set of bugs), rather than doing so immediately on > each bug. Perfect, that's what I was asking for. > But waiting to close until afte

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Jim Gettys
I'd recommend not closing the bugs until you ask for approval for update (are finished with the set of bugs), rather than doing so immediately on each bug. But waiting to close until after testing in an update.1 build hasn't worked out for anyone. We're also going to go through a diff of packages

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 28, 2007 4:14 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess there may have been misunderstanding: since the beginning of > December (or maybe before), only things intended for Update.1 and issues > approved for fixing in Update.1 needing testing were supposed to be > loaded into joyrid

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Jim Gettys
I guess there may have been misunderstanding: since the beginning of December (or maybe before), only things intended for Update.1 and issues approved for fixing in Update.1 needing testing were supposed to be loaded into joyride. As such, there should be no cherry picking of fixes needed, when yo

Re: Question about button mapping in Browse handheld mode

2007-12-28 Thread Jake Beard
This looks like the most likely candidate: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2249 Unfortunately, the last time it was touch was three months ago. Is anyone doing any work on this? Please let me know. Thanks. Jake On Dec 28, 2007 6:19 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there's a bug file

Re: [PATCH] [XoIRC] Make default nicks more meaningful (#5385)

2007-12-28 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 at 18:36:49 -0600, Phil Bordelon wrote: > By default, XoIRC uses the username when another nick is not > provided. Alas, for every XO, this is 'olpc'. This makes for > rather a mess in the IRC channels. > > This patch instead gen

Re: Question about button mapping in Browse handheld mode

2007-12-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
there's a bug filed in trac, assigned to the browse-activity component, which discusses key mappings in handheld mode. I'm reading mail on my cellphone, so I can't look it up for you know, but it shouldn't be hard to find from http://dev.laptop.org/ --scott On 12/27/07, Jake Beard <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 27, 2007 5:02 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Predictably, lots of people are on vacation, making the following > problem critical, as it is difficult for me to query people individually > on status as it might be at other times: > > Trac's (current) workflow is poor: we've had n