Re: 3dpong request for hosting

2008-01-12 Thread Samuel Klein
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: Samuel Klein wrote: Yes, it would help to have distributed network services such as ones that let you say join the next available connect/pong game This is easy to implement within the current sharing framework. It just requires each game to pair off users as

Re: Marvell

2008-01-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Jan 11, 2008 10:10 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got tied up in a contract and lost site of this thread for a while. I'm game to start up again. On Sep 10, 2007 5:53 PM, Alex Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dan Williams

Re: Update to Terminal Activity

2008-01-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Have you talked with Eben about it? When I'm not completely sure about how to add a new feature to the UI, I use to explain him the problem. He uses to come up with solutions that surprise me. And this in most of one occasion has saved me having to reimplement the feature later. ;) Tomeu On

New joyride build 1531

2008-01-12 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1531/ -olpc-utils.i386 0:0.63-1.olpc2 +olpc-utils.i386 0:0.63-2.olpc2 -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel

GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Robert Millan
Hi! I've been working for a few hours in a GRUB port to i386/OFW. There's quite a bit of things that need cleanup/fix before it can be considered complete, but it's in a stage that boots and lets you do basic things (like listing storage devices). It's known to work on OLPC / XO. I don't have

Re: 3dpong request for hosting

2008-01-12 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Jan 11, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: there was much discussion of a store-and-forward network, so that students could send e-mail and use other non-real-time internet services, as long as they occasionally meshed with someone who occasionally had internet access.

Re: Marvell microkernel replacement

2008-01-12 Thread David Woodhouse
http://www.csr.com/products/unifirange.htm -- dwmw2 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Robert Millan
Some comments on things that need polishing. Some are more addressed at one of the two lists than the others, but feel free to join in either case. (also, if you feel this is off-topic in olpc-devel, feel free to ki^W let me know) btw, Mitch mentioned to me on IRC that the ELF loader on XO has

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-12 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 02:29:15PM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Morgan Collett wrote: We'll add some API to PresenceService and sugar.presence, and put some signal into Sugar similar to the buddy-left signal to indicate you were

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sjoerd Simons wrote: Activities need to cope with people coming going anyway. If your in a mesh only environment, the mesh can be split into two or more parts at any point and later on merge again. Salut will model that as people disconnecting

Re: 3dpong request for hosting

2008-01-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Samuel Klein wrote: Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: Samuel Klein wrote: Yes, it would help to have distributed network services such as ones that let you say join the next available connect/pong game This is easy to implement within the current

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Robert Millan wrote: Some comments on things that need polishing. Some are more addressed at one of the two lists than the others, but feel free to join in either case. (also, if you feel this is off-topic in olpc-devel, feel free to ki^W let me know) btw, Mitch mentioned to me on IRC that

Re: mesh portal discovery

2008-01-12 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 12:00:02PM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sjoerd Simons wrote: Activities need to cope with people coming going anyway. If your in a mesh only environment, the mesh can be split into two or more parts at any point

[OLPC Networking] hostap olpc mesh

2008-01-12 Thread Michail Bletsas
A brief history of OLPC's mesh stack deviations from 802.11s: We chose 802.11s for interoperability and its nice alignment with our power management architecture. Our goal has always been to produce a proper subset of the emerging 802.11s standard (in the same manner that WiFi is a subset of

Re: Update to Terminal Activity

2008-01-12 Thread ffm
Odd, does not seem to be in joyride as of yet. -ffm On Jan 12, 2008 2:27 AM, Phil Bordelon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Stone and I added a 'become root' button to the Terminal tonight. It is now part of Terminal-8.xo. This consists of two parts: * a new minimalist script,

New update.1 build 681

2008-01-12 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build681/ +xapian-bindings-python.i386 0:1.0.2-1 -xapian-bindings-python.i386 0:1.0.4-2.fc7 -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-pkgs.html

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:02:03AM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: Robert Millan wrote: Some comments on things that need polishing. Some are more addressed at one of the two lists than the others, but feel free to join in either case. (also, if you feel this is off-topic in olpc-devel, feel

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Robert Millan wrote: We used to run trap insttruction on powerpc. I assume for exitting via trap on i386 we need to generate an interrupt; I'm just not sure which is the right number for it. To exit to OFW, call the exit() client service. I see. Is this one

Theora and Video Conferencing

2008-01-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There has been a lot of discussion of video conferencing using the XO, and a demo activity was created last year. However, our video codec of choice, Theora, has not been able to encode fast enough to do real-time streaming at acceptable quality. As

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
I was wrong about the mmu thing. I just checked the patch instructions at http://openbios.org/Open_Firmware and noticed that the patch comments out create virtual-mode. So if you build with that patch, you get physical addressing. I don't know what is right, because this build configuration

Re: 3dpong request for hosting

2008-01-12 Thread Hal Murray
You just want to be connected to the next available person who also says they want to be connected that way -- whether that means you hang out broadcasting your availability for a while, ... Broadcasting is evil. It doesn't scale. If at all possible, please do something else. It would be

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 09:44:09AM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: I was wrong about the mmu thing. I just checked the patch instructions at http://openbios.org/Open_Firmware and noticed that the patch comments out create virtual-mode. So if you build with that patch, you get physical

Re: New update.1 build 681

2008-01-12 Thread Jerry Van Baren
Probably: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5949 Also see mail thread Update.1 680 does not work for me http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.laptop.olpc.devel/8753 Best regards, gvb Michael Stone wrote: Were the xapian bindings supposed to revert to an older version here? Thanks, Michael On

Re: non-Sugar but core software?

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Stone
Jani, Adapting Rainbow (the activity isolation component) to work on regular linux systems is an interesting challenge that I'd love to discuss with you. At present, there are three or so issues that would need to be overcome: First, magic numbers. The rainbow codebase hardcodes some magic

Re: Marvell

2008-01-12 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
(cc dwmw2) David Woodhouse and myself will attend at LCA. It would be nice if we could meet and discuss the technical details. Moreover, I'm being kicked from the US due to visa issues, and I'll be staying in Australia until Feb 15. OLPC is trying to get me a new visa, but it is unclear when

OLPC News 2008-01-12

2008-01-12 Thread Walter Bender
1. Mongolia is the first beneficiary of the Give One Get One program. Laptops have begun to arrive and a team from OLPC, including Carla Gomez Monroy, Jan Jungclaus, and Enkhmunkh Zurgaanjin are on the ground to help with the initial deployment. Dave Woodhouse will be heading to Ulan Bator to help

New joyride build 1532

2008-01-12 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1532/ -Terminal-7.xo +Terminal-8.xo -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
The 2008-1-12 OLPC News says ... so that we can finally disable the root and olpc passwords. The way I have my G1G1 system set up (I have no wireless) I *need* to ftp in. For that, I have set a password for olpc. It would be ok with me to set up a different user+password for ftp, but would

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: The 2008-1-12 OLPC News says ... so that we can finally disable the root and olpc passwords. The way I have my G1G1 system set up (I have no wireless) I *need* to ftp in. For that, I have set a password for olpc. It would be ok with me to set up a different

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: The way I have my G1G1 system set up (I have no wireless) I *need* to ftp in. For that, I have set a password for olpc. It would be ok with me to set up a different user+password for ftp, but would *not* be ok for password support to be disabled. No problem: just

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread ffm
On Jan 12, 2008 9:17 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the system notices that passwords are similar, there's at least some chance one guy knows another guy who then tells someone in upper management that if the system is able to find similarities between passwords, they

Re: passwords, etc.

2008-01-12 Thread Ed Montgomery
Regarding the note about the 'paranoid' password filtering, etc. Changing passwords as root does not involve any of the 'too short', 'too similar', etc. problems mentioned. Root, being god-like, can change any password to anything. For regular users, it is an education about password security!

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: The way I have my G1G1 system set up (I have no wireless) I *need* to ftp in. For that, I have set a password for olpc. It would be ok with me to set up a different user+password for ftp, but would *not* be ok for password support to be disabled. No problem: just

can suspend be prevented ?

2008-01-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Earlier, had not noticed my G1G1 going into suspend. Now, with 681 + d08, it does so when left to sit. Unfortunately, after suspend my wired connection no longer works after the system wakes. Can I prevent suspend from happening? [Seems to me such a situation can occur with a child -- what

Re: can suspend be prevented ?

2008-01-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Earlier, had not noticed my G1G1 going into suspend. Now, with 681 + d08, it does so when left to sit. Unfortunately, after suspend my wired connection no longer works after the system wakes. Can I prevent suspend from happening? Yes, with touch /etc/ohm/inhibit-suspend.

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger writes: On 13.01.2008 01:45, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: Typical Linux practice is the following: 1. One *never* allows remote shell login as root -- *ever* -- even behind a firewall. One allows only *one* user in the wheel group to log in to a shell account, and

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bernardo Innocenti writes: What we're actually doing is just to disable them in the default installation so that malicious activities cannot login as root or olpc and basically own the system. This is NOT needed at all. I wrote and tested an /etc/pam.d/su modification that will prohibit all

Re: Marvell

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Alex Gibson writes: Need internetworking support (mixing of arm and thumb code). Does gcc support that? I won't worry if not though. With a good compiler and good hackers, plain ARM will fit just fine. Alternately, one can easily switch modes by hand. For toolchains there are a few options

Re: Marvell microkernel replacement

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
David Woodhouse writes: http://www.csr.com/products/unifirange.htm They claim that that is a 1-chip solution. Is it really? Marvell uses a 2-chip solution. If a 2-chip solution is OK, then one could start with a 1-chip softmac solution and add any arbitrary processor. That CPU could be ARM,