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That's great - a 'somebody oughta' thread that actually produces action!
Good job, guys!
Now, somebody oughta dodge the patents for MP3, too
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Hi,
for Debian I've started http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/OLPC/ToDo yesterday,
to document what is working and whats not and what work needs to be done.
In general, a document describing how the XO-1-fedora installation differs
from a plain fedora would be very much appreciated, also by the
Hi all.
I just released Guido van Robot version 3.0.
It includes many bug fixes and it now ships with a graphical world
builder, two editors
,18 lessons and a language reference.
It has syntax highlighting in 9 languages and a debug stepper which
highlights the current line when the program runs.
Hi Ken, PyGame provides a font module which can render text onto a surface.
from gettext import gettext as _
font = pygame.font.Font(None, 36)
surf = font.render(_(Hello, world!), 1, (255,255,255))
pos = surf.get_rect(centerx=Pos[0], centery=Pos[1])
screen.blit(surf, pos)
The
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1540
Changes in build 1540 from build: 1538
Size delta: -7M
-dhclient 12:3.0.5-42.fc7
+dhclient 12:3.0.5-40.fc7
-olpc-library-common 1-16
+olpc-library-common 1-18
-olpc-library-core 1-17
+olpc-library-core 1-19
-sugar 0.75.8-1
+sugar
Mike C. Fletcher wrote:
...
I just upgraded a B2-2 machine that we're wanting to reassign to another
developer. Seem to have bricked the machine. Used an
auto-reinstallation image (machine appeared to have the original B2-2
firmware and OS image 216 to start), upgrade to Q2D07 seemed to go
Hello
I downloaded the firmware
svn co svn://openbios/openfirmware
then
cd ./cpu/x86/pc/olpc/build
make clean
make
and I get this error
make[1]: Entering directory
'/openfirmware/clients/memtest86'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'head.S', needed
by 'head.s'. Stop.
make[1]: Leaving
Bryan,
Having dealt with people suffering from PTSD and the like, I agree that Doom
should not be on the Activities page. No matter how much one can argue the
whole aspect of Free as in Free Speech, Doom obviously does not fall in
with OLPC's missions. I am in agreement that Doom should be removed
I feel very strongly that violent games should not be associated with
OLPC. Albert Cahalan points out that games like Doom can teach geometry
and other skills. There are ways to teach those skills w/out involving
violence. I work in Nepal, a country recovering from an 11-year civil
war. Exposure
How can i change the font size of the console? My eyes hurt...
Thanks!
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What's wrong with erring on the safe side with a controversial topic
like video game violence in a learning setting like the OLPC project.
That doesn't solve anything. It just pushes the decision point down the
scale a bit.
Instead of arguing whether something is violent, we'll be arguing
When it comes to our radio - we *designed it* to start forward frames
soon after you initialize it and keep doing it regardless of what the
host interface does.
In the context of making the radio safe to use on airplanes...
Does the firmware turn the radio on at boot time?
Does your
Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/17/2008 12:55:47 PM:
When it comes to our radio - we *designed it* to start forward frames
soon after you initialize it and keep doing it regardless of what the
host interface does.
In the context of making the radio safe to use on airplanes...
On a normal PC I can read data from the sound device by doing from the
command line, -
cat /dev/snd | od -x
(Using od just for readability)
On my XO I tried
cat /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c | od -x
and the error that I get is -
cat: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c: File descriptor in bad state
000
I can't
Hal Murray wrote:
When it comes to our radio - we *designed it* to start forward frames
soon after you initialize it and keep doing it regardless of what the
host interface does.
In the context of making the radio safe to use on airplanes...
Does the firmware turn the radio on at
On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Wade Brainerd wrote:
Hi Ken, PyGame provides a font module which can render text onto a
surface.
...
The _() around the text indicates that the string is to be
localized, it will be extracted and placed in a database by the
gettext utility.
The PyGame
On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Bryan Berry wrote:
I feel very strongly that violent games should not be associated with
OLPC. Albert Cahalan points out that games like Doom can teach
geometry
and other skills. There are ways to teach those skills w/out involving
violence. I work in Nepal, a
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 17:06 -0200, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
Indeed we had this airplane mode discussion two weeks ago:
Why don't we?
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This is the correct sledgehammer approach as mbletsas has consistently
pointed out.
For a more user-friendly solution, (short of a hardware rfkill
I apologize if I am over simplifying:
- mesh stop was considered when we had compatibility issues with lazy-wds
routers. We addressed this, right? Do we still need this feature? Michail?
- For airplane mode or relatives, we need to shut up radio (any traffic).
On Jan 17, 2008 5:05 PM, Dan
Indeed we had this airplane mode discussion two weeks ago:
Why don't we?
---
To completely silence the radio:
#!/bin/bash
rmmod usb8xxx
mv /lib/firmaware/usb8883.bin /lib/firmaware/usb8883.bin.quiet
It will survive reboots.
---
To bring it back:
#!/bin/bash
mv
2008/1/17 Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008-01-17T15:46:31 Bryan Berry:
I feel very strongly that violent games should not be associated with
OLPC.
Who decides? Who draws the line between appropriate and
inappropriate? Does anybody with access to email and web get to ban
games for
Thank you!
2008-01-17T19:02:27 Chris Hager:
I feel strongly, that there should be a community discussion, *before*
removing anything from [[Activities]]. And if something is/should be
removed:
1. We should write up some Activity-Guidelines
Those address my concerns.
-Bennett
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 09:51 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
I suppose that OFW could reset the wireless to turn it off and then do
some chipset configuration hack that would make that USB port
disappear. I'm just guessing though; I haven't studied the 5536 manual
with this possibility in mind.
For airplane mode, is there some command OFW can run to make
the whole eth/msh device poweroff and disappear until the next
powercycle? If so, maybe we could hook another key check into
/boot/olpc.fth?
-Bennett
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To completely silence the radio:
#!/bin/bash
rmmod usb8xxx
mv /lib/firmaware/usb8883.bin /lib/firmaware/usb8883.bin.quiet
For a more user-friendly solution, (short of a hardware rfkill switch)
put a toggle somewhere in the control panel for Don't turn the radio on
automatically that is
Hey all.
Jaume and I just had a pizza-and-beer coding session, and the outcome
were two tutorials for creating Activities with PyGTK, one of them using
Glade.
= http://wiki.laptop.org/go/PyGTK/Hello_World_Tutorial
We're using activity.py as a wrapper, which loads the code and GTK
interface
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 14:18 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
To completely silence the radio:
#!/bin/bash
rmmod usb8xxx
mv /lib/firmaware/usb8883.bin /lib/firmaware/usb8883.bin.quiet
For a more user-friendly solution, (short of a hardware rfkill switch)
put a toggle somewhere in the
On Jan 17, 2008 6:37 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's wrong with erring on the safe side with a controversial topic
like video game violence in a learning setting like the OLPC project.
That doesn't solve anything. It just pushes the decision point down the
scale a bit.
Thanks, Chris.
And thanks to Ties, Bryan, Noah, and all for sharing their coments --
please use this effort to build a great set of guidelines for what
makes a good activity. This is as good a place as any to reiterate
the need for overall guidelines for what makes for a good or even a
great
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On Jan 17, 2008 10:46 PM, Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I'm
asking for _some_ kind of line between the two. The recent DVD
release of the first season of Sesame Street warns that it isn't
appropriate for young children. That creeps me out.
How do we define the line between Doom
On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Bryan Berry wrote:
My only objection is that Doom be on the same page as Squeak, Library,
Speak, etc. I have no problem with it being on a page that explains
that
activities w/ violence are not endorsed by OLPC.
Who picks what is endorsed and what isn't? My
pronounce the last 4 letters of the word touch
2008/1/17 Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008-01-17T22:49:57 Antoine van Gelder:
Bennett Todd wrote:
Let's get a concrete definition of violence and I think the
disagreement will fade right out.
If I did it to you and you would go
Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Bryan Berry wrote:
My only objection is that Doom be on the same page as Squeak, Library,
Speak, etc. I have no problem with it being on a page that explains
that
activities w/ violence are not endorsed by OLPC.
Who picks what is
Bennett Todd wrote:
Let's get a concrete definition of violence and I think the
disagreement will fade right out.
If I did it to you and you would go *ouch* as a result then it is violent.
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May I suggest that we take a step back from the debate about doom? I see a
general problem with the activities page, in that there is insufficient
information there to suggest the audience ian activity is intended for.
There needs to be some way to indicate even if the person using it needs to
be
2008-01-17T22:49:57 Antoine van Gelder:
Bennett Todd wrote:
Let's get a concrete definition of violence and I think the
disagreement will fade right out.
If I did it to you and you would go *ouch* as a result then it is
violent.
Well, then asteroids makes it though, I'd be dead before I
I assume you're talking about the virtual terminal here; not the
Terminal activity. As root, you my try a command like:
setfont sun12x22
Michael
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 12:27:54PM -0200, Emiliano Pastorino wrote:
How can i change the font size of the console? My eyes hurt...
Thanks!
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Also, while this discussion certainly is bigger than just Doom, it could be
worth to pointing out that a number of organizations have rated Doom as:
ESRB: M
ESRB: T (GBA)
BBFC: 15
OFLC: MA15+
PEGI: 16+
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_%28video_game%29)
/Jens
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Jameson Chema Quinn wrote:
Oops - I have to stop using that 'reply' button in gmail. This was meant
to go to the list in general, the first half is now obsolete (except to
make me look like a fool) because Antoine responded, but the second half
is still valid.
Thank you Chema.
I really
I have enabled a voting plugin on dev.laptop.org for tickets. To use
it just login and click the up or down arrows in the top-right of your
favorite/hated tickets. You do not need to click submit on the ticket
or anything else. A summary of all open tickets sorted by votes is
available at
On Jan 17, 2008 2:49 PM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bennett Todd wrote:
Let's get a concrete definition of violence and I think the
disagreement will fade right out.
Absolutely not. I for one take an entirely contrary view on violence.
Background first: I have played war
Oops - I have to stop using that 'reply' button in gmail. This was meant to
go to the list in general, the first half is now obsolete (except to make me
look like a fool) because Antoine responded, but the second half is still
valid.
You use the word us very often. Please tell the list members
:
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On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Antoine van Gelder wrote:
Bennett Todd wrote:
Let's get a concrete definition of violence and I think the
disagreement will fade right out.
If I did it to you and you would go *ouch* as a result then it is
violent.
This rules out Minesweeper, Mario,
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 12:32 -0500, Michail Bletsas wrote:
There is an iwpriv eth0 radiooff/radioon IOCTL hook in the firmware
which was meant to control the radio power directly - it was removed a few
months ago since it wasn't considered to its thing in the proper linux
manner.
I looked
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I see.
But i hope this is not done only because of the airline issue, and that
there are other reasons that it useful to boot with firmware unloaded.
Because as far as the airline issue is concerned, we should not take it tooo
seriously. As long as we have a working solution it is fine. Not many
Hi Wade,
I wrote one today as well, after porting 3D Pong from OLPCGames to
pure PyGTK + cairo (it's a lot slower unfortunately, either their
line drawing or their text drawing needs serious optimization). I
had to spend a bunch of time researching how to get smooth
animation
Hi,
How will you developers who are triaging tickets use that votes?
I don't think there'll be a formal process. If there's a bug we think
of as relatively unimportant that ends up with a lot of votes, that
could be a good argument for revisiting its priority. That's the main
use case
Bryan Berry writes:
I feel very strongly that violent games should not be associated
with OLPC. Albert Cahalan points out that games like Doom can
teach geometry and other skills. There are ways to teach those
skills w/out involving violence. I work in Nepal, a country
recovering from an
Michael Stone writes:
I assume you're talking about the virtual terminal here; not the
Terminal activity. As root, you my try a command like:
setfont sun12x22
Many people report that that font is also too small.
You can try my 15x30 font, which many people love.
It's attached to this
On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
On Friday 18 January 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
I see no point in OLPC
arguing with either governments or families about their rights in
these matters. Others may wish to, but that is no part of the
question
before us.
I think this is
Let's not forget the dongles that act as dumb repeaters on their own,
based on their firmware. Are they gonna use a different firmware instead?
p.
David Woodhouse wrote:
We should change the firmware so that it isn't active automatically as
soon as it's loaded -- let the driver activate it
David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/17/2008 06:26:38 PM:
It uses CMD_802_11_RADIO_CONTROL with the RADIO_OFF argument, which I
believe is the correct thing to do.
If that's the case then it does the right thing - no need to worry with
the earlier iwpriv call.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/17/2008 02:17:44 PM:
I apologize if I am over simplifying:
- mesh stop was considered when we had compatibility issues with
lazy-wds routers. We addressed this, right? Do we still need this
feature? Michail?
The only reason to have this, is for debugging
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
My thoughts are that I would like to write a yum post-install hook
which stashed a copy of the RPMs installed to /home/olpc/.rpmcache. A
post-upgrade hook (in olpc-configure) would attempt to reinstall all
rpms found in /home/olpc/.rpmcache. This would address this
Iain (XO) Davidson wrote:
I definitely discovered the issue, when I installed a bunch of packages
via 'yum' (like 'update', and programs mc, vlc, emacs,etc). Then
suddenly they were gone after an update.
Doing something via 'yum update' and some trickery with the XS server /
DNS /
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Tom Hannen wrote:
I disagree with the idea of censoring games based on violence. I
think that a warning at the top of any page should be sufficient.
While I agree with your your anti-censure POV, I think
the whole thread is moot as it's based on the assumption
of Doom II being a *violent*
On Thursday 17 January 2008, Bernardo Innocenti wrote:
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
My thoughts are that I would like to write a yum post-install hook
which stashed a copy of the RPMs installed to /home/olpc/.rpmcache. A
post-upgrade hook (in olpc-configure) would attempt to reinstall all
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Many people report that that font is also too small.
You can try my 15x30 font, which many people love.
It's attached to this email.
It's already the second time you attach your font.
Have you seen my message where I ask you where the glyphs
came from and under what
2008/1/17 Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008-01-17T21:09:22 Ties Stuij:
What's wrong with erring on the safe side with a controversial
topic like video game violence in a learning setting like the
OLPC project.
[...]
As was mentioned earlier in this thread, there are always
On Jan 17, 2008 11:24 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Many people report that that font is also too small.
You can try my 15x30 font, which many people love.
It's attached to this email.
It's already the second time you attach your font.
It's only 4
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