State of Update.1, March 24, 2008

2008-03-23 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, First, thanks are due to kreneskyp, sayamindu, uwog, dgilmore, rsmith, marco, wad, rwh, and hhardy for contributing to the state of our knowledge of Update.1 by updating tickets in Trac. Everyone else: get behind us, review these bugs, and help push out this release! See http://wiki.lap

Re: UI usability for 4 year old (was Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas!)

2008-03-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> In any case, the left and right panels can't sense fingertip pressure - >> you would have to use a fingernail, and that would override the signal >> from capacitive sensor. >> >> >

Re: UI usability for 4 year old (was Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas!)

2008-03-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
John R.Hogerhuis wrote: > ... > > Are the left and right panels pressure sensitive? If so, they could be used to > dynamically adjust the brush size/weight depending on how hard she pushes. > > You can use either the resistive sensor ( left + middle + right with stylus-class pressure) or the

Re: UI usability for 4 year old (was Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas!)

2008-03-23 Thread John R . Hogerhuis
. K. Subramaniam gmail.com> writes: > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 3:59:31 am John R.Hogerhuis wrote: > > .. (actually it's not all that pleasant for me either given the button > > placement below the trackpad). Something modal or pressure based would be > > better. If a key on the keyboard held do

Re: Nortel LearniT animations (Seth Woodworth)

2008-03-23 Thread Rob Savoye
Hal Murray wrote: >> I will also talk about Adobe's recent release of the source code of >> this VM to the open source community along with Mozilla's plan for >> embedding this module into the Firefox web browser. > > Am I missing something? Tamarin is a small fraction of the code needed to do

Re: Nortel LearniT animations (Seth Woodworth)

2008-03-23 Thread Hal Murray
> I agree that the long-term strategy should be to support Gnash and/or > get Adobe to open up their Flash player. I thought Adobe already opened up. From: http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/061206.html > Wednesday, December 6, 2006 > The Adobe Flash Player is almost universally a

New faster build 1796

2008-03-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1796 Changes in build 1796 from build: 1794 Size delta: 0.00M -libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-1 +libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-2 --- Changes for libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-2 from 2.6.0.svn20071127-1 --- + Fix 6170: shared write activity

New joyride build 1796

2008-03-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1796 Changes in build 1796 from build: 1794 Size delta: 0.00M -libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-1 +libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-2 --- Changes for libabiword 2.6.0.svn20071127-2 from 2.6.0.svn20071127-1 --- + Fix 6170: shared write activit

Re: Nortel LearniT animations (Seth Woodworth)

2008-03-23 Thread Bryan Berry
Edward Cherlin Wrote: > That might be the quickest strategy, but I don't agree that it is the best. > > * Gnash needs funding and developers. Let's do it. Rob Savoye says, as > I understand it, that more codecs have been cracked but not coded for. > Rob, can we get the list? Is there a roadmap for

Re: New faster build 1794

2008-03-23 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Michael Stone wrote: > The updates server pulls down builds lazily on request. In other words, > rsync'ing against it only tells you what builds it has _cached_, not > what builds it can provide. ok, makes sense. Is there anywhere I can go to see what builds are actually available? I tried toda

Fixing the Pen Tablet

2008-03-23 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, Below are patches to the kernel source code and the xorg-x11-server and xorg-x11-drv-evdev packages which restore function to the ALPS Pen Tablet (dlo#5268), which fix the "twin clicks" bug that plagued previous approaches (dlo#6079), and which cause X to configure the Pen Tablet in absolut

Re: New update.1 build 702

2008-03-23 Thread Kim Quirk
Sounds great!! Thanks, Kim On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Kim, > > > Chris, I have pulled together a set of bundles that include the > > latest version of each of the activities that shipped with G1G1. I > > would like people to use this set of

Re: New update.1 build 702

2008-03-23 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Kim, > Chris, I have pulled together a set of bundles that include the > latest version of each of the activities that shipped with G1G1. I > would like people to use this set of activities in their bundles > directory for testing 702 (unless they have their own customization > b

Mini-Conference Proposal: Suspend/Resume speed

2008-03-23 Thread Richard A. Smith
I propose that for Update.2 we put significant effort into making suspend/resume reach its speed target and work correctly on the hardware. Its close but we are still about 5x slower than the 200ms goal, things like SD don't always work after a cycle, and we need to have proper idle detection.

Re: New update.1 build 702

2008-03-23 Thread Kim Quirk
Ricardo, Use this link to create your customization USB stick: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_key#Preparing_the_key: Chris, I have pulled together a set of bundles that include the latest version of each of the activities that shipped with G1G1. I would like people to use this set of acti

Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: olpcfs

2008-03-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More information: (draft) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpcfs The thinking behind this is *excellent*. If we make a couple of minor tweaks and we take that as the description of the goals, then we can implement that, an

Re: Core Activities - Bundled Packs discussion

2008-03-23 Thread Michael Stone
Ixo, Thanks very much for your excellent start! I'll try to reflect on it more carefully as soon as I am able. Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New update.1 build 702

2008-03-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 05:35:28PM -0300, Ricardo Carrano wrote: > Updated from 695 to 702. > No activity icons on the frame... Ricardo, See http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6598 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-March/011984.html for some explanation of what's afoot. Also, Chris

Re: New faster build 1794

2008-03-23 Thread Michael Stone
The updates server pulls down builds lazily on request. In other words, rsync'ing against it only tells you what builds it has _cached_, not what builds it can provide. Still, please let us know when you're unable to update to builds with olpc-update, and file bugs if necessary. Thanks, Michael

Re: New faster build 1794

2008-03-23 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Build Announcer v2 wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1794 Can't see recent builds with my olpc-update They try to open rsync://updates.laptop.org/ but there's only one "faster" build there, 1788. Here's what my rsync sees on a regular linux box: % rsync rsync:

Fwd: JS-Python Communication using PyXPCom

2008-03-23 Thread Manusheel Gupta
FYI Luke has been unable to post in the devel lists. The message that he posts in this mailing list bounces back. Is there a solution to this problem, or should I ask him to join the devel lists again? -Manu -- Forwarded message -- From: Luke Closs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mo

Re: Nortel LearniT animations (Seth Woodworth)

2008-03-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seth Woodworth Wrote: > >Holy Crap! That's amazing. > >We need this *on* the laptops. Curse you flash! > >Does it work alright in gnash? Or should we transcode it? > > There are a lot of great education activities done

Re: New update.1 build 702

2008-03-23 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Updated from 695 to 702. No activity icons on the frame... On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build702 > > Changes in build

Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: sugar performance

2008-03-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Mar 2008, at 18:32, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > The idea is that, instead of waiting 5 seconds for the full UI to > appear, the activity window would appear after, say, 3 seconds, half a > second later the document will get loaded, and half a second later the > user will be able to share the activ

New faster build 1794

2008-03-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1794 Changes in build 1794 from build: 1793 Size delta: -0.13M -libdhcp 1.24-6.fc7 +libdhcp 1.24-4.fc7 -libnl 1.1-1.fc7 +libnl 1.0-0.10.pre5.4 --- Changes for libdhcp 1.24-4.fc7 from 1.24-6.fc7 --- + Update for libnl 1.1 + Update Lic

Re: JS-Python Communication using PyXPCom

2008-03-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Luke Closs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 23-Mar-08, at 3:03 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > thought I already had suggested this a long time ago, but anyway: > > > > - Create a XPCOM service in JS that exposes the spreadsheet > > functionality implemented in JS. >

Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: sugar performance

2008-03-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 23 Mar 2008, at 17:13, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > - Move datastore and sharing initialization later after the UI has > > been launched, the user won't be able to start working sooner, but > > will be given a better idea

New joyride build 1794

2008-03-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1794 Changes in build 1794 from build: 1793 Size delta: 0.00M -libdhcp 1.24-6.fc7 +libdhcp 1.24-4.fc7 -libnl 1.1-1.fc7 +libnl 1.0-0.10.pre5.4 --- Changes for libdhcp 1.24-4.fc7 from 1.24-6.fc7 --- + Update for libnl 1.1 + Update Lic

Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: sugar performance

2008-03-23 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Tomeu, On 23 Mar 2008, at 17:13, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > - Move datastore and sharing initialization later after the UI has > been launched, the user won't be able to start working sooner, but > will be given a better idea of the launching process (will feel > faster). I think we spoke a little

Mini-Conference Proposal: sugar performance

2008-03-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
What I see we can do in the short/medium term: - Launch python activities in a preinitialized python interpreter, may save memory too. - Move datastore and sharing initialization later after the UI has been launched, the user won't be able to start working sooner, but will be given a better idea

Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: olpcfs

2008-03-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One major frustration with the existing datastore implementation is > that is unfriendly to legacy applications: you can't easily use the > command-line to browse through it, and you can't save a file from an > u

New faster build 1793

2008-03-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1793 Changes in build 1793 from build: 1790 Size delta: 0.00M -Calculate 17 +Calculate 19 -Read 44 +Read 45 --- Changes for Calculate 19 from 17 --- + Include Gary Martin's icons + Power operator for Rationals + Fix Decimal operato

Re: 1789 - sugar does not boot (1788 and 1790 either)

2008-03-23 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Sunday 23 March 2008, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > On Mar 22, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > On Saturday 22 March 2008 11:52:47 am Michael Stone wrote: > > >> Examining > > >> > > >> http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html > > >> > > >> I suspect kbd-1.12-22 ->

New joyride build 1793

2008-03-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1793 Changes in build 1793 from build: 1790 Size delta: 0.14M -Calculate 17 +Calculate 19 -Read 44 +Read 45 --- Changes for Calculate 19 from 17 --- + Include Gary Martin's icons + Power operator for Rationals + Fix Decimal operat

Re: 1789 - sugar does not boot (1788 and 1790 either)

2008-03-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Mark Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also have had issues with builds 1788 and 1790. These would also > not boot. > I resorted back to 1784 to get it to boot. With 1788 it looked like > it was locked up, > but the power button still puts it in suspend and

Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: desktop applications

2008-03-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sugar breaks with the standard desktop metaphor by design and doing so > it introduces incompatibilities at several levels. The barrier between > activities and standard applications proved to be a critical problem

Re: JS-Python Communication using PyXPCom

2008-03-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
There are also dbus bindings for javascript which are being developed, those would be very useful to integrate with the Sugar services. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: JS-Python Communication using PyXPCom

2008-03-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, thought I already had suggested this a long time ago, but anyway: - Create a XPCOM service in JS that exposes the spreadsheet functionality implemented in JS. - Create another XPCOM service in python that exposes the needed Sugar functionality. Shouldn't this allow you to integrate SocialCa

New LiveBackup XO-LiveCD Release

2008-03-23 Thread WolfgangRohrmoser
A new release 080321 of the Livebackup XO-LiveCD is available at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/livebackupcd/build-695/ and mirrored in Germany at ftp://rohrmoser-engineering.de/pub/XO-LiveCD/ Main features and changes since version 080130: * better hardware support, based on linux