I imagine it would be interesting to the devel and sugar lists to hear
a summary of your observations in the kindergarten classroom as well.
-walter
2008/4/2 Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
For the hangers-on such as myself, it wouldn't be necessary to have a video
record if that's too
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1823
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder if the differences between Sugar and a regular window manager
aren't so severe that it might be worth offering a simple desktop
environment which runs within Sugar as a Activity?
You would download and launch
sorry for the week late reply, was busy w/ teacher training
Michael Stone wrote:
A much better strategy is
to reflash an XO, boot it off of external media (like a USB key), make
changes
to the NAND, then save-nand, thus avoiding the first-boot configuration
junk.
Let me make sure my linux-n00b
Ok, hopefully that can be discussed at the mini-conf, which I still
can't attend...good to get on the plan for the more planned one at end
of may...probably best if led from the paid OLPC staff side, right?
Jon
On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 13:07 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
Hey, folks. I've been
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can't attend...good to get on the plan for the more planned one at end
of may...probably best if led from the paid OLPC staff side, right?
No, it's actually best if we get significant community help planning
events like
No changes have been needed to the schedule (yet).
I've posted it on the wiki at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mini-conference
Remember, the call-in number is:
From the United States
866-213-2185
From Outside the United States
1-609-454-9914
accesscode: 8069698
and there
On Apr 2, 2008, at 5:24 PM, John Watlington wrote:
Meshes of access points don't tend to change topology over time.
The laptop mesh very well might. The need to handle this is one
of the problems causing congestion.
Anybody find new algorithms for mobile meshes ?
As well there are plenty
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1824
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps, in the intervening decade, first-world computer users have
convinced themselves that they cannot adapt, but they are wrong. Humans
are very adaptable. A teacher who has learned one version of Sugar will
Let me ad that these changes are motivated from feedback in the field.
What we are trying to change are precisely the things that people are
finding confusing or difficult. Let me further add that very little
teacher training has in fact taken place. What we have instead
concentrated on is working
Hi All,
I'm not opposed to changing the GUI at the OS level. I can think of a
dozen suggestions starting with that annoying hot corners thing. I
also love a whole bunch of the design elements.
All I'm saying is that any change comes at a cost. A cost paid by the
teachers, students and people who
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:42 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Delta-based storage is an implementation detail, certainly
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1825
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Eben are you ok with this?
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Aaron Huslage wrote:
How do currently available commercial wireless topology mappers do this?
I don't have direct experiance (the brother of a friend goes around
installing these things, so my knowledge is third hand)
but my understanding is that they deploy their access
Hi all,
the last joyride build (1825) includes a big part of the shell
redesign explained in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs.
What you can see today in the builds is what most probably will go
into update.2, but there's still lots of work to do in completing the
specifications, some code
OK, the mini-conference happened - thanks for trying to let off-siters like
me participate. Here's the Gobby doc which resulted, below are my
post-meeting comments:
Activity sharing:
* Should we show people what the size/download time for a package is before
d/l?
* We might download something
Tomeu wrote
the last joyride build (1825) includes a big part of the shell
redesign explained in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs.
I'm running Joyride 1825 now on my G1G1. The principal difference
I've noted is in my use of the Home view - now that the currently
running activities are
Let's not forget that you need some fixed reference points.
In commercial systems, the locations of the access points are well known.
In ad-hoc networks the best that you can hope for is a topological map.
M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/02/2008 01:45:14 AM:
Ryan,
Like Ben said,
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Michail Bletsas wrote:
Let's not forget that you need some fixed reference points.
In commercial systems, the locations of the access points are well known.
In ad-hoc networks the best that you can hope for is a topological map.
the assumption was that the measurements are
There is a learning curve involved with the revised Home view
(F3). It took me a while to realize that NOTHING appears in the
circle view of launchable Activities until I have gone into the
list view and marked the star on each desired Activity. And then
This is a matter of
The new Home frame design is cool.
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:07:21PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
it took a while more to realize that if I clicked within the Home
view (as opposed to on the Frame) on the icon of an already-running
Activity, a NEW INSTANCE of that Activity would be
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Michail Bletsas wrote:
Let's not forget that you need some fixed reference points.
In commercial systems, the locations of the access points are well
known.
In ad-hoc networks the best that you can hope for is
Greg Smith wrote:
I'm not opposed to changing the GUI at the OS level. I can think of a
dozen suggestions starting with that annoying hot corners thing. I
also love a whole bunch of the design elements.
All I'm saying is that any change comes at a cost. A cost paid by the
teachers, students and
2008/4/3 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. for version threading, what we need for an activity is not a claim like
I am a version of activity ID but My prior version was XXX and the
one before that was YYY. What is the granularity of XXX and YYY? I'd say, a
hash on the
The win-win is when this piece of Greg's advice is followed:
...Just make sure its not a surprise to existing users. Also make sure
they are bought in, understand the benefit and are ready to make the move.
...
Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:24:10 -0700
And Bryan seems to have
April Fool's was a good way to present what does eventually need to be
done, and what is done in some other open source projects.
It's a good way of doing it, and would require some work. I would set
up a set of stages with the highest and easiest pay-offs first, e.g.
building versions with and
Hello Yama, please see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for content discussions and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for aspects of
usability (discussions about interface design are usually directed to
sugar). There is no list about teacher training, though there is an
educators list that was initially
Yama wrote:
Do any of you know if such a content or curriculum list exists and how
I can sign up for it?
To my knowledge, no. But we definitely need one. I know that Bipul,
Kamana, and Saurav from our team would be very much interested. myself
as well.
You can start one yourself. I believe you
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Michail Bletsas wrote:
Let's not forget that you need some fixed reference points.
In commercial systems, the locations of the access points are well
known.
In ad-hoc networks the best that you can hope for is
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