Re: Recent Updates to Sugar Almanac

2008-07-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Faisal, sorry to get to this so late, are there any outstanding doubts? The DS is right now a big mess due to long-standing bugs and basic features still unimplemented. I hope that during the next release significant resources will be allocated to this, if in the meantime you could suggest

Re: Updates This Week to the Sugar Almanac - Using the Datastore and More

2008-07-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu, Thanks so much for the clarifications. I understand now the abstraction intended for metadata accessed through DSMetadata and DSObject and will try to write that up a little more forcefully. I guess the main

Re: Questions, OLPC-Caldas

2008-07-01 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 01:14, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/30 Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2) What's the password when i try to access the XO through SSH? you need to set the root password before you can do this. if you're in the Terminal activity: sudo

Re: boot timings

2008-07-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 27.06.2008 um 21:55 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello -- yesterday, as much for an exercise in using the serial port, manipulating the kernel commandline, and doing a little exploring, i resurrected an old tool of mine which timestamps lines received over a serial port (or a socket), and

Re: Can't upload a .po file to Pootle

2008-07-01 Thread Bastien
Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another thing that may have caused the problem - http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/etoys.po has a formatting error at line 2683. Fixed: http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/etoys.po You can upload and overwrite the current etoys.po file. Thanks very much!

Re: my XO has difficulty with f9

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thereafter every attempt at booting would stop somewhere. [If I used the 'check' key to get out of pretty boot, the booting process would always stop after the console message Starting anacron:. If I used manual

Re: [PATCH] Install customization packages left for us by a USB key.

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 04:58:33PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: + yum -yt --nogpgcheck install $pkgs 1. As an earlier commenter hinted, you want localinstall because otherwise yum may try to talk

Re: boot timings

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 27.06.2008 um 21:55 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On the software-side, sshd takes close to 3 secs to start, would make sense to disable in user builds - without a password it is not useful anyway. I think one near-term

Re: boot timings

2008-07-01 Thread pgf
bert wrote: Am 27.06.2008 um 21:55 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello -- yesterday, as much for an exercise in using the serial port, manipulating the kernel commandline, and doing a little exploring, i resurrected an old tool of mine which timestamps lines received over a

Re: OLPC-Update + RPMs WAS:Re: OLPC XO Opera browser as Sugar activity

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what I would really like to see is for OLPC to not just release the snapshots, but to have a way for developers to get the rest of the build environment, complete with either the scripts, or command logs of what is done to go from the

Re: boot timings

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bert wrote: Am 27.06.2008 um 21:55 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the only suspicious USB-related thing that i noticed was the 1.6 seconds in the firmware, apparently to discover the wireless. in the normal boot case i wouldn't think

Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-07-01 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:20, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) Stable collaboration :) I know this is a hard one. We just put Cerebro into joyride. We think that some activities, such as Read, will be easy to modify to use it. You might try it and see. Which activities do you care

Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-07-01 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:26, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Berry wrote: 3) Stable collaboration :) I know this is a hard one. We just put Cerebro into joyride. We think that some activities, such as Read, will be easy to modify to use it. You might try it and see. Which

Re: olpc-dm, olpc-utils, olpc-session, rainbow etc

2008-07-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Michael, On Tuesday 24 June 2008 02:17, Michael Stone wrote: Where is olpc-session kept? (Of course I can copy it from my XO, but... :) On-XO, rpm -qif `which olpc-session` thanks for that rpm command! I've added it to my rpm-tips+tricks notes :) Is this the latest olpc-util

Re: my XO has difficulty with f9

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, thank you for your response. By saying after anacron, X is supposed to start, you've clarified things for me. My current thinking is that X was not starting for me, and that I may have caused that by (at that

Re: my XO has difficulty with f9

2008-07-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:00 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thereafter every attempt at booting would stop somewhere. [If I used the 'check' key to get out of pretty boot, the booting process would always

Re: my XO has difficulty with f9

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:00 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thereafter every attempt at booting would stop somewhere. [If I

Re: [PATCH] Install customization packages left for us by a USB key.

2008-07-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 08:05:46AM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: 3. Why do we care whether there's a devkey? We would actually be better off checking that all the RPMs we're installing are owned by uid 0, this being the exact privilege that we're attempting to safeguard. because

Re: [PATCH] Install customization packages left for us by a USB key.

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=security;a=blob;f=rainbow.txt;hb=HEAD#l101 in my opinion, the cheapest way to implement P_SF_CORE + P_SF_RUN is by turning the root password into a developer key, then by applying a CoW layer

Re: Touchpad issues on joyride

2008-07-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 16:24 -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote: Hi, For those of you running into crazy pointer behavior on the latest Joyride builds (2080+ with latest kernel), can you please try the following in the terminal/console and report back on if this helps at all after some extended

Re: Recent Updates to Sugar Almanac

2008-07-01 Thread Faisal Anwar
Hi Tomeu, No problem about the late reply ... I am documenting improvements as I document the current state of the system. So I'll try to suggest some more coherent api as well. Let's keep in touch about this. Faisal On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

GLX on XO questions

2008-07-01 Thread Robert Myers
I'm trying to get Panda3D running on an XO, as a feasibility study, more than for any specific goal. I've successfully loaded Panda3D and Mesa-OpenGL. When I try to run a sample program, Panda3D complains about not finding GLX. Last month there was a discussion here about OpenGL and GLX, but

Re: Touchpad issues on joyride

2008-07-01 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jul 01 2008, at 11:58, Daniel Drake was caught saying: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 16:24 -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote: Hi, For those of you running into crazy pointer behavior on the latest Joyride builds (2080+ with latest kernel), can you please try the following in the terminal/console

Re: my XO has difficulty with f9

2008-07-01 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I may have caused that by (at that first boot) making some sort of change that worked with f7 but not with f9 That seems likely, but the olpc-update system should ensure that you've got a clean system (no extra RPMs) when you revert. I would hope that even if X doesn't start (especially if

New joyride build 2094

2008-07-01 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2094 Changes in build 2094 from build: 2092 Size delta: -0.79M -fonts-thai-ttf 0.4.4-1olpc1.2 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

Inappropriate use of private meetings lists.

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
When Mozilla went public, the first item on their list of design principles was: External development counts more than convenience or ease-of-habit for internal-to-Netscape developers. The Netscape X-heads, for example, have moved all of their mail usage except for I'm-out-sick-today and any

Re: New joyride build 2094

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2094 Changes in build 2094 from build: 2092 Size delta: -0.79M -fonts-thai-ttf 0.4.4-1olpc1.2 Was this intentional? I think Bryan Berry's like to notice

Re: New joyride build 2094

2008-07-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:47 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2094 Changes in build 2094 from build: 2092 Size delta: -0.79M -fonts-thai-ttf

Re: New joyride build 2094

2008-07-01 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday 01 July 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2094 Changes in build 2094 from build: 2092 Size delta: -0.79M -fonts-thai-ttf 0.4.4-1olpc1.2

re: Release Status Meeting - 8.2.0 - Tomorrow, 2:00 PM EDT, various venues - Notes

2008-07-01 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Marco, Greg, Kim, Joe, Paul, Eben, Chris, Scott, Jim, Denis, Michael and others people met on Tuesday July 1 at 2PM US ET via IRC, phone and in person. Sorry for the long e-mail but it was a very productive meeting and I want to keep everyone in the loop. Agenda is at:

pedal and crank (dev) slowness tonight due to backups 20080701-2008-0702

2008-07-01 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
I am backing up crank and pedal to the new machines owl and swan today. Doing this during business hours was causing slowness in git today so I have desisted until midnight tonight, when I will restart the backups. There may be periodic slowness due to backups and moving things around over the

New joyride build 2095

2008-07-01 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2095 Changes in build 2095 from build: 2094 Size delta: -0.13M +olpc-hardware-manager 0.4.2-1.fc9 --- Included olpc-hardware-manager version 0.4.2-1.fc9 --- -- This mail was automatically generated See

Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-07-01 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Thanks for all the comments on the Development Process. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home A few gentle suggestions on managing the input. A - My intention is that this page (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home) will be the final page. So please put comments and

fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago for thai font support. However, no one here now remembers where this font came from, or where the upstream came from. Can someone familiar with thai support help out? Ideally we'd like to confirm the licensing and then grow a

Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
C. Scott Ananian wrote: We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago for thai font support. However, no one here now remembers where this font came from, or where the upstream came from. Can someone familiar with thai support help out? Ideally we'd like to confirm the

Re: Release Status Meeting - 8.2.0 - Tomorrow, 2:00 PM EDT, various venues - Notes

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We talked about what this page offers that we don't already have. The conclusion was that its a high level view of the main features in the release. Each item on this page should include a list of relevant bug id that give the

Re: Release Status Meeting - 8.2.0 - Tomorrow, 2:00 PM EDT, various venues - Notes

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Kim will check with Peru and Greg will check with Uruguay teams to ensure that they do not plan to upgrade to 8.2.0. Action item due by July 20. Why don't we want them to use 8.2? I suspect some words were left out, and

Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote: We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago for thai font support. However, no one here now remembers where this font came from, or where the upstream came from. Can

Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:19 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote: We added a package named 'fonts-thai-ttf' to our builds a while ago for thai font support. However, no one here

Freezing features this week.

2008-07-01 Thread Michael Stone
ear world, We're FREEZING OUR FEATURE-SET THIS WEEK, which means that features targeted at the 8.2.0 release should be IN A JOYRIDE BUILD BY THIS SUNDAY, JULY 6TH. If the outlines of your feature aren't a) in Joyride by the end of the week, [1] b) documented in a release contract in [2]

New joyride build 2096

2008-07-01 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2096 Changes in build 2096 from build: 2095 Size delta: 2.23M +thaifonts-scalable 0.4.9-3.fc9 -libthai-devel 0.1.9-4.fc9 --- Included thaifonts-scalable version 0.4.9-3.fc9 --- -- This mail was automatically generated See

custom kernel problems

2008-07-01 Thread Scott Douglass
Hi, In regards to: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rebuilding_OLPC_kernel I gave up on the git head kernel as there seems to be a lot of bugs there, and tried to build the origin/stable kernel. I'm running a Fedora 9 (i386) system for doing the build. I get this set of messages and the kernel fails

Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-01 Thread Bryan Berry
I know that Nepal is a small potato compared to Peru and Uruguay but there are two features that we really need. Furthermore, I think these features would immensely benefit the bigger deployments. 1. Need to be able to launch activities such as Scratch, EToys, Pippy, etc. by clicking on a

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Need to be able to remove activities via the GUI, including installed activities, to make room for new ones. We are working on Offline Moodle activity bundles for courses. Each course will be subdivided into weekly

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-01 Thread Bryan Berry
You can delete those from the Journal. Is that insufficient for some reason? yeah, if the activity comes pre-installed you can't remove it. We include a lot of activities in our custom build as I imagine Peru and Uruguay do ___ Devel mailing list

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can delete those from the Journal. Is that insufficient for some reason? yeah, if the activity comes pre-installed you can't remove it. We include a lot of activities in our custom build as I imagine Peru and Uruguay do

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-01 Thread Bryan Berry
the activities are in ~/Activities . I spoke w/ Bernie about this and he told me that you couldn't remove activities unless they had been originally installed by the user. I may have misunderstood him and be wasting your time w/ a moot issue. I will test it myself when I get into the office this

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the activities are in ~/Activities . I spoke w/ Bernie about this and he told me that you couldn't remove activities unless they had been originally installed by the user. I may have misunderstood him and be wasting your time

Re: [Deploy] fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-01 Thread Kim Quirk
For testing, Scott, we are growing a set of each new keyboard/language laptop that comes out of manufacturing. The 'ultimate' test for fonts, translations, keyboard integration is to load a build on these laptops. I have two of each new SKU and I have tried to label one as 'WP' (write protected

Re: Release Status Meeting - 8.2.0 - Tomorrow, 2:00 PM EDT, various venues - Notes

2008-07-01 Thread Kim Quirk
My thoughts in-line... Kim On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:16 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Kim will check with Peru and Greg will check with Uruguay teams to ensure that they do not plan to upgrade to 8.2.0.

Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-07-01 Thread Kim Quirk
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Thanks for all the comments on the Development Process. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home A few gentle suggestions on managing the input. A - My intention is that this page

Re: custom kernel problems

2008-07-01 Thread Scott Douglass
Sorry to reply to my own post... This patch to linux-2.6.22/arch/i386/Makefile enables the stable kernel to build on F9: - diff --git a/arch/i386/Makefile b/arch/i386/Makefile index bd28f9f..790e378 100644 --- a/arch/i386/Makefile +++

New joyride build 2097

2008-07-01 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2097 Changes in build 2097 from build: 2096 Size delta: -0.13M -kernel 2.6.25-20080630.1.olpc.4ae580e3a9597a7 +kernel 2.6.25-20080701.1.olpc.5001ddd18d37eee -cdparanoia-libs alpha9.8-30 +cdparanoia-libs 10.0-2.fc9 -glib2 2.16.3-5.fc9

How do we manage translation effort in Release process/roadmap?

2008-07-01 Thread Korakurider
Hi, all. I have read though Greg's release process draft of OLPC (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home) and ReleaseTeam/Roadmap of SugarLabs (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap). But both draft documents haven't explained translation of software (including activity) and

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists.

2008-07-01 Thread Kim Quirk
Scott, I think we all agree that communications can improve and constructive ideas on how to do that are always welcome. I'm not sure how you decided that we had consensus on following Mozilla's design principles. I don't remember being part of that discussion. I'm not sure how we define

Re: [Server-devel] Wikiserver on XS

2008-07-01 Thread Bryan Berry
good thing there are brighter bulbs involved in olpc than myself :) cbj I will have to look at your code for wikislice and see how it harvests the images from wikipedia. I was having the most trouble w/ that part. Perhaps wikislice can easily be reused for wiktionary we like wiktionary because

[Server-devel] VPN server for our project

2008-07-01 Thread s . boutayeb
Hi, OLPC France is plannig a project Windrose (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/WindroseOLPC ) consisting for the schools among the world participating in the project to share and publish their contents (text, images, videos, etc.) in a semi-private BLOG (likely EduBlogger). My question: has

Re: [Server-devel] Want to package PostgreSQL for OLPC

2008-07-01 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 08:48 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: How hard is it to get a backport of Pg8.2/8.3, plus some key dependencies (php-pgsql, python-pgsql, pam-pgsql) recompiled to use the new libpq, all on F7? http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org ;) I have already built all PG combinations against

Re: [Server-devel] Want to package PostgreSQL for OLPC

2008-07-01 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 09:44 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: We have compat packages, and all pam-pgsql, etc in that repository. So, using those files won't be a problem. Fantastic! So python-pgsql and php-pgsql are there too? python-psycopg2 is there, but not php-pgsql. The question is:

Re: [Server-devel] Laptop XS working

2008-07-01 Thread David Leeming
Martin/list To remind you, I am getting to know the XS using an installation on a laptop, with 2 XO-B4s and 1 XO-1, all running build 703 and G1G1 activity pack. I have followed the configuration instructions for a small school server, ejabberd starts on boot etc. I have tested the server with

Re: [Server-devel] Laptop XS working

2008-07-01 Thread David Leeming
OK, done all that, I was fooled for a while, when logging onto ejabberd via the web interface (on a connected XO) I did not realise you need to enter the full username, i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I bet that will fool a few other novices like me :) Two of the 3 laptops are now OK, but the third

Re: [Server-devel] Laptop XS working

2008-07-01 Thread David Leeming
John, Thanks, I have set it up now, including the roster, and it seems fine. Thanks all, David Leeming Technical Advisor, People First Network Tel: +677 76396(m) 24419(h) 26358 (w) www.leeming-consulting.com -Original Message- From: John Watlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: