Re: debxo 0.1 release

[James Cameron]

Recent changes:

- addition of documentation,
- generate name.crc instead of name.img.crc,
- rename package list for gnome build,
- fix to gdm and kdm configuration to use correct username.

Stability of the KDE Lenny build seems good, and on a B4 over 8 hours
use of the konqueror web browser showed 33Mb used by the browser, and
64Mb free.

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Re: ibus, a new input framework

[Edward Cherlin]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I just came across ibus, an input framework which seems to be designed
> to be a better replacement for scim. A presentation is available
> online at http://ibus-user.googlegroups.com/web/ibus.pdf
> Has anyone used this ? Any comments on how well this works and how
> stable this is ?
> Thanks,
> Sayamindu

I'm on Debian Hardy. I compiled and installed Ibus, ibus-pinyin and
Ibus-tables (apparently) but I'm having trouble with the others. I
can't make the ibus-Hangul engine, and I can't make install
ibus-chewing. Ibus doesn't run. Some error communication:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/ibus-hangul-0.1.1.20080823$ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mokurai/Desktop/ibus-hangul-0.1.1.20080823'
Making all in engine
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/mokurai/Desktop/ibus-hangul-0.1.1.20080823/engine'
/usr/bin/swig -python -I/usr/include -o hangul_wrap.c ./hangul.i
/bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
-I..-I/usr/include/hangul-1.0 -I/usr/include/python2.5
-I/usr/include/python2.5  -g -O2 -MT _hangul_la-hangul_wrap.lo -MD -MP
-MF .deps/_hangul_la-hangul_wrap.Tpo -c -o _hangul_la-hangul_wrap.lo
`test -f 'hangul_wrap.c' || echo './'`hangul_wrap.c
libtool: compile:  gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..
-I/usr/include/hangul-1.0 -I/usr/include/python2.5
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -g -O2 -MT _hangul_la-hangul_wrap.lo -MD -MP
-MF .deps/_hangul_la-hangul_wrap.Tpo -c hangul_wrap.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/_hangul_la-hangul_wrap.o
hangul_wrap.c:118:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory
etc.

Where is Python.h supposed to come from?

...
make[1]: *** [_chewing_la-chewing_wrap.lo] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/mokurai/Desktop/ibus-chewing-0.1.1.20080823/engine'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/ibus-chewing-0.1.1.20080823$ ibus
Starting ibus-daemon OK
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/share/ibus/daemon/ibusdaemon.py", line 28, in 
import dbus.server
ImportError: No module named server
Start ibus-daemon failed

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Re: [DCON]: Make sure the backlight level gets restored after sleep

[Andres Salomon]

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:27:08 -0600
Jordan Crouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Apparently somewhere along the line, the backlight value gets reset to
> full in the DCON silicon after coming back from a DCON sleep.
> 
> This patch should remedy that.
> 
> Jordan
> 

Thanks, committed and pushed.

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Re: Plural-Forms header in sugar-toolkit.po (Re: Plural form in timestamp of Journal entry)

[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

I added some plural information manually for certain files: I used the
data from http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/l10n/pluralforms
Thanks,
Sayamindu


On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Sayamindu
>
> Today I noticed there is Plural-Forms header in sugar-toolkit.po that
> had been missing and affected timestamp display in Journal  (see
> #8086)
> But X-Generator and POT-Creation-Date haven't been changed.   How can
> we know the changes...
> So what did you change actually?
>
> And I believe we want to do mass-push them for inclusion to 8.2 build !
>
> /Korakurider
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:
>
> Yeah - same here. The logs seem to indicate a problem with the strong
> formatting - I have attached one.
> Tomeu, any ideas ?

 Hi,

 ELAPSED = _('%s ago')

 Seems like the translated string has one (or more) extra placeholder?
>>>
>>>   Thanks, this seems the case (http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8058#comment:5).
>>   My bad, this is the case, thanks!
>>
>>>
>>>   Other than that, how Plural is handled without Plural-Forms is
>>> still in question.
>>My test shows we need to specify Plural-Forms header explicitly in PO.
>>http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8086
>>
>>This should affect some languages how timestamp is shown in Journal...
>>Folks, please verify it for your language.
>>
>> /Korakurider
>>>
>>> /Korakurider
>>>

 Regards,

 Tomeu

>>>
>>
>



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Re: Plural-Forms header in sugar-toolkit.po (Re: Plural form in timestamp of Journal entry)

[Korakurider]

Fixed POs have been pushed already.
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=sugar-toolkit;a=commit;h=4abbca5a92f9b4c9af8c9b26e4000e1b3586fc23

Thanks!

/Korakurider

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Sayamindu
>
> Today I noticed there is Plural-Forms header in sugar-toolkit.po that
> had been missing and affected timestamp display in Journal  (see
> #8086)
> But X-Generator and POT-Creation-Date haven't been changed.   How can
> we know the changes...
> So what did you change actually?
>
> And I believe we want to do mass-push them for inclusion to 8.2 build !
>
> /Korakurider
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:
>
> Yeah - same here. The logs seem to indicate a problem with the strong
> formatting - I have attached one.
> Tomeu, any ideas ?

 Hi,

 ELAPSED = _('%s ago')

 Seems like the translated string has one (or more) extra placeholder?
>>>
>>>   Thanks, this seems the case (http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8058#comment:5).
>>   My bad, this is the case, thanks!
>>
>>>
>>>   Other than that, how Plural is handled without Plural-Forms is
>>> still in question.
>>My test shows we need to specify Plural-Forms header explicitly in PO.
>>http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8086
>>
>>This should affect some languages how timestamp is shown in Journal...
>>Folks, please verify it for your language.
>>
>> /Korakurider
>>>
>>> /Korakurider
>>>

 Regards,

 Tomeu

>>>
>>
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Plural-Forms header in sugar-toolkit.po (Re: Plural form in timestamp of Journal entry)

[Korakurider]

Hi, Sayamindu

Today I noticed there is Plural-Forms header in sugar-toolkit.po that
had been missing and affected timestamp display in Journal  (see
#8086)
But X-Generator and POT-Creation-Date haven't been changed.   How can
we know the changes...
So what did you change actually?

And I believe we want to do mass-push them for inclusion to 8.2 build !

/Korakurider

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Korakurider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>> wrote:

 Yeah - same here. The logs seem to indicate a problem with the strong
 formatting - I have attached one.
 Tomeu, any ideas ?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ELAPSED = _('%s ago')
>>>
>>> Seems like the translated string has one (or more) extra placeholder?
>>
>>   Thanks, this seems the case (http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8058#comment:5).
>   My bad, this is the case, thanks!
>
>>
>>   Other than that, how Plural is handled without Plural-Forms is
>> still in question.
>My test shows we need to specify Plural-Forms header explicitly in PO.
>http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8086
>
>This should affect some languages how timestamp is shown in Journal...
>Folks, please verify it for your language.
>
> /Korakurider
>>
>> /Korakurider
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
>>>
>>
>
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Re: debxo 0.1 release

[Andres Salomon]

Thanks for all this!  I still need to sort through patches (and someone
reported a bug with 0.1 which is apparently leaving the dcon frozen..)



On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:48:41 +1000
James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've added some features to debxo aka xodist;
> 
> 1.  caching of the kernel package, so that it does not need to be
> downloaded every time a build is done,
> 
> 2.  a KDE build, which yields a 520Mb JFFS2 image containing a
> complete KDE environment,
> 
> 3.  an LXDE build, which yields a 189Mb JFFS2 image,
> 
> 4.  support for local package caching proxy using approx, or one of
> the other apt proxy mechanisms.
> 
> For example, to get Debian KDE onto an XO, here's how to do it:
> 
> % git clone http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/xodist.git
> % sudo ./initchroot.sh --package-list kde.packages kde.root
> % sudo ./mkjffs2.sh kde.root kde.img
> % sudo mv kde.img.crc kde.crc
> 
> Copy the kde.img and kde.crc files to a thumb drive, boot an XO into
> OFW, then type:
> 
>   copy-nand u:\kde.img
> 
> (This erases everything on the XO, you know.)
> 
> --
> 
> To use approx to cache packages,
> 
> a.  install the approx package,
> 
>   % sudo aptitude install approx
> 
> b.  add the following lines to /etc/approx/approx.conf, and restart,
> 
> debian  http://http.us.debian.org/debian
> securityhttp://security.debian.org/
> 
> c.  follow the same steps but add the --mirror option to the
> initchroot.sh script, like this,
> 
>   sudo ./initchroot.sh \
>   --package-list kde.packages \
> --mirror http://localhost:/debian kde.root
> 
> As a result of this, the hundreds of megabytes of packages will be
> kept locally for re-use.
> 


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Early activation with an AP instead of AA

[Martin Langhoff]

Douglas is preparing an rpm with all the bits needed to run an
activation server -- for the initial at-boot- activation only scenario
-- on the XS.

This is meant to work with an AA (active antenna), but looking at the
python code in the initrd, I wonder whether an AP or a machine with a
wlan interface set to ad-hoc can also be used. See:

def select_network_channel (channel):
   check_call(['/sbin/iwconfig','eth0','mode','ad-hoc','essid','dontcare'])
   check_call(['/sbin/iwconfig','msh0','channel',str(channel)])
   check_call(['/sbin/ifconfig','msh0','up']) # rely on ipv6 autoconfig
   ...

With this setup, will the XO also send the frames over conventional
802.11a/b/g or not at all?

OTOH, large deployments wanting to activate XOs in a warehouse can get
an AA without much trouble.

cheers,


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Re: OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

[James Cameron]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 07:13:29PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
> Anyone know if deb XO will work on the Eee? (old gen) and classmate
> (new gen)?

No, and not intended to.  The main task of debxo is to generate an image
suitable for OpenFirmware and the XO hardware.  If you wish to use an
Eee with Debian, there are pointers on the Eee or Debian Wikis.

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Re: [Server-devel] RFH: Anaconda install with alternative default disk layout (kickstart?)

[Robin Norwood]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect this is trivial for kickstart/anaconda experts -- and help
> would be appreciated with this.
>
> What I am after is a kickstart file to drive XS installs to have a
> default disk layout that is _different_ from the F9 default disk
> layout, and yet can be overriden by the user.

Well, you can do an 'interactive' kickstart, which basically means
that the defaults are populated by the values in the kickstart, but
the user still goes through the entire process.  Otherwise...

> I've seen kickstart scripts that force-change the screen to a specific
> console to ask interactive questions. Looked scary to my untrained
> eye...

Yes, scary.

How about two use cases:

1. Default install, just use a ks file provided by you.

2. Interactive install, using a kickstart file the same as the above,
but in interactive mode.  This covers partitioning, and any other
random details installers may want to change.

It's been awhile since I've tried an interactive ks, but it still
seems to be a supported option.

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Re: debxo 0.1 release

[James Cameron]

I've added some features to debxo aka xodist;

1.  caching of the kernel package, so that it does not need to be
downloaded every time a build is done,

2.  a KDE build, which yields a 520Mb JFFS2 image containing a complete
KDE environment,

3.  an LXDE build, which yields a 189Mb JFFS2 image,

4.  support for local package caching proxy using approx, or one of the
other apt proxy mechanisms.

For example, to get Debian KDE onto an XO, here's how to do it:

% git clone http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/xodist.git
% sudo ./initchroot.sh --package-list kde.packages kde.root
% sudo ./mkjffs2.sh kde.root kde.img
% sudo mv kde.img.crc kde.crc

Copy the kde.img and kde.crc files to a thumb drive, boot an XO into
OFW, then type:

copy-nand u:\kde.img

(This erases everything on the XO, you know.)

--

To use approx to cache packages,

a.  install the approx package,

% sudo aptitude install approx

b.  add the following lines to /etc/approx/approx.conf, and restart,

debian  http://http.us.debian.org/debian
securityhttp://security.debian.org/

c.  follow the same steps but add the --mirror option to the
initchroot.sh script, like this,

sudo ./initchroot.sh \
--package-list kde.packages \
--mirror http://localhost:/debian kde.root

As a result of this, the hundreds of megabytes of packages will be kept
locally for re-use.

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Re: Scratch fails to write to Scratch.activity/Projects

[Mikus Grinbergs]

> Scratch-6.xo is now at
> http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/bundles/Scratch-6.xo

I attempted to install Scratch-6.xo with 'sugar-install-bundle'.

Aside from LOTS of warning messages about invalid entries in 
MANIFEST, the bundle install crashed with

> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/sugar-install-bundle", line 18, in 
> bundle.install()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py", 
> line 362, in install
> install_path = self.unpack(install_dir)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py", 
> line 287, in unpack
> self._unzip(install_dir)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/bundle/bundle.py", line 166, 
> in _unzip
> raise ZipExtractException
> sugar.bundle.bundle.ZipExtractException

mikus

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Re: olpc.fth and OFW api docs

[S Page]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> mitch wrote:

>  > My recent rewrite of the Olpc.fth wiki page documents the basics from 
>  > the XO perspective.
> 
> thanks.  that page is now the excellent boot reference i was
> hoping for.  :-)

I put all the pages I could find that describe aspects of XO startup in 
[[Category:XO startup]], which is in [[Category:Firmware]].

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Bug Triage Update

[Greg Smith]

Hi All,

We pushed ahead and triaged bugs up to 8179.

The next triage is planned for freenode.net #olpc-meeting tomorrow 
(Friday) at 1PM US ET.

I plan to catch up to the newest bugs at that time. Next up after that 
we will go over everything marked blocks:8.2.0 and blocks?:8.2.0 one 
more time and see if we can pick the final, "must fix" set.

Thanks to everyone for helping to test. There was a broad spectrum of 
people reporting issues but I want to especially thank:
thomaswamm
dsd
hoboprimate

Lots of people made a mark on the bug database this week and I 
appreciate everyone's contribution. Just wanted to mention those three 
as being especially active.

Keep the bug reports coming and mark them blocks?:8.2.0 if they need 
special attention.

There is added demand for a release sooner than later. Its coming 
especially from pending deployments in Rwanda, Mongolia, and Haiti.

We need to make some hard decisions to get a release out in 
mid-September. The more info we have on the quality of the release the 
better decision we can make. So don't hesitate to mention any issues on 
the list or in the bug database.

You can see important bugs which we are likely to defer and only mention 
them in the release notes at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0#Notable_Open_Bugs_In_This_Release

For instructions on how to test the latest pre-release image, see: 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

Thanks,

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Re: Default permissions of /home/olpc/Activities/

[Erik Garrison]

On first boot olpc-configure sets the permissions of all directories in
/home/olpc (excepting isolation directories) to chmod 755.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:56:44PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
> Hello,
> What is the default permission of any file/directory under
> /home/olpc/Activities ? I am specifically interested in the
> permissions of the i18n and l10n related directories, since the
> language packs will be playing around with a lot of theses files and
> folders.
> Thanks,
> Sayamindu
> 
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Default permissions of /home/olpc/Activities/

[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

Hello,
What is the default permission of any file/directory under
/home/olpc/Activities ? I am specifically interested in the
permissions of the i18n and l10n related directories, since the
language packs will be playing around with a lot of theses files and
folders.
Thanks,
Sayamindu


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All joyride builds since 2346 are failing.

[Ton van Overbeek]

It seems the joyride builds since 2346 try to implement the reversal
of the gstreamer packages.
However all builds fail with a missing dependency issue:
Error: Missing Dependency: gstreamer-plugins-base >= 0.10.17.2-4 is 
needed by package totem-gstreamer

Anybody trying to fix this?
It is a kind of a pity to let tinderbox test all these failed builds.

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Re: OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

[David Van Assche]

heys...

  Anyone know if deb XO will work on the Eee? (old gen) and classmate (new gen)?

David Van Assche

2008/8/28 Christoph Derndorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:32 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Mitch Bradley wrote:
>> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14
>> >
>> > It's the latest and greatest test candidate for 8.2.0, with numerous
>> > fixes and a few features.
>>
>> I believe the new "friends in testing" build 8.2-757 incorporates q2e14.
>>
>> My XO seems fine.
>
> Yep, update works like charm.
>
> Now I can finally give DebXO-0.1 a shot
> (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.laptop.olpc.devel/17485).
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
>>
>> I added the following to
>> :
>>   If the new build includes new [[firmware]],
>>   then your XO will reboot twice.
>>
>> If that's correct, the same line could be added to the 42 other
>> instructions for upgrading on the wiki.
>>
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Re: OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

[Christoph Derndorfer]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:32 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mitch Bradley wrote:
> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14
> >
> > It's the latest and greatest test candidate for 8.2.0, with numerous
> > fixes and a few features.
>
> I believe the new "friends in testing" build 8.2-757 incorporates q2e14.
>
> My XO seems fine.


Yep, update works like charm.

Now I can finally give DebXO-0.1 a shot (
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.laptop.olpc.devel/17485).

Cheers,
Christoph


>
>
> I added the following to
> :
>   If the new build includes new [[firmware]],
>   then your XO will reboot twice.
>
> If that's correct, the same line could be added to the 42 other
> instructions for upgrading on the wiki.
>
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Re: CSound server questions

[victor]

I'd just like to correct, for the record, that the Csound 5
project leader, of which I am part,  is and has always been
John ffitch. I am the fedora package maintainer for the
olpcsound subset (and I'lll probably pick up the full Csound5
package too). John has also done a substantial work in
setting up the subset build.

We would welcome, very much, Barry's input in
Csound 5 development, if he'd like to be involved.

Victor

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Gettys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Maloney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "Chris Ball" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "C. Scott Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSound server questions


> John,
>
> We cannot use code from Barry since he tends to work by himself, his
> code is unmaintainable except by him and its licensing has also been
> somewhat questionable at times, though the licening problems may have
> been addressed..  Were he to be run over by a truck (God forbid!), we'd
> be in a complete pickle.
>
> The community CSound, that Victor leads, is widely used and supported by
> a large community of people.
>
> Previous objections of "CSound bloat" (by things like the public csound
> using the TK/TCL internally to the CSound library) have been addressed
> by Victor, who now has (at configure time) a version of CSound5 built
> out of the same source pool that drops those dependencies.
>
> You can be sure that *anything* that runs on the CSound lite we run on
> OLPC will run on the public full CSound used in the music community; it
> is an *exact* subset of the full CSound used by everyone except Barry.
>
> So we are also in a very much better compatibility situation than using
> Barry's version.
>
> Hope this explanation helps.
> - Jim
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 06:42 -0400, John Maloney wrote:
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> I had the impression that Barry Vercoe was working on a new, light-
>> weight CsoundServer. Is that not true?
>>
>> -- John
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2008, at 5:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > There is no CsoundServer anymore; we use Csound as a library
>> > through its API. If anyone wants some help on how to use it, to
>> > play MIDI or anything else, he/she can talk to me, privately or
>> > on this list. I'm away to ICMC at the moment, so replies might
>> > be slow. But I'll give as much help as I can.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Victor
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:35 pm
>> > Subject: Re: CSound server questions
>> > To: "C. Scott Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Cc: John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, devel@lists.laptop.org
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > >> Did you ever get a satisfactory answer to your
>> > > questions?  I think
>> > >> Pippy contains the best examples of using csound
>> > > to play sounds --
>> > >> is that right, Chris?
>> > >
>> > > Well, I'd say that TamTam does.  :)  But yes, Pippy
>> > > does some basic
>> > > synthesis using sinewaves and music files with csound.
>> > >
>> > > - Chris.
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Re: [Server-devel] Network address for activation - Fwd: [Techteam] Activating laptops from the school server

[Jerry Vonau]

Jerry Vonau wrote:
> 
> OR do you want msh0, msh1, and msh2 on the same bridge? That would 
> require editing the BRIDGE= line to be the same bridge device in all 
> three ifcfg-mshX files

Sorry make that read TYPE=

time for sleep in a bit,
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Re: [Server-devel] Network address for activation - Fwd: [Techteam] Activating laptops from the school server

[Jerry Vonau]

John Watlington wrote:
> Martin, that shouldn't be needed.
> Somewhere, network_config has gotten screwed up...
> 
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> 
yup, all three ifcfg-brX files have device=br0
edit
ifcfg-br1:
DEVICE=br1
and ifcfg-br2
DEVICE=br2

OR do you want msh0, msh1, and msh2 on the same bridge? That would 
require editing the BRIDGE= line to be the same bridge device in all 
three ifcfg-mshX files

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Re: [Server-devel] Network address for activation - Fwd: [Techteam] Activating laptops from the school server

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> we're trying to get the XS to reply to the activation requests from
> the XO. The service is listening on 172.18.0.1:191 which is what the
> non-activated laptops are trying.
>
> The laptop, however, picks an address in the 172.18.16.x range. The
> server is seeing the request on its msh0 interface but not responding
> to it

The server used to bridge from 172.18.16.x to 172.18.0.1.  Services
which were visible from "all antennas" of the XS were bound to
172.18.0.1, and services which were specific to a particular
antenna/subnet bound to 172.18.16.1, etc.  I don't remember the
specific details; perhaps the XO should be using a 172.18.17.1 address
when it is on mesh channel 6, etc?  There was definitely a bug in the
past where I was trying to connect to 172.18.16.1 and it only worked
when the school server was on channel 1 (or something like that).  Wad
knows best.

> I've written a server that seems to do this (at least for IPv4), but

I recommend implementing IPv6 as well, as the IPv6 link-local address
assignment is *significantly* less likely to fail (ie, collide) than
the IPv4 assignment.  But I do remember that IPv6 binding was
"complicated".  Maybe Wad can dig out the code I wrote from his old XS
images to help.
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Re: XO Faster build?

[C. Scott Ananian]

2008/8/28 BlistovMHz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Faster has been unmaintained since Koji puked.  Is this coming back up, or
> being deprecated in favor of Joyride?
> Its been suggested that someone may have simply forgot to turn it back on :)

'Faster' is always a short-lived experimental branch.  It was last
turned on to test some XFCE integration ideas; the end result of that
work is documented at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XFCE_and_Sugar.  It
was turned off when that work was complete; it will be turned on again
when someone has a disruptive change they want to play with which
isn't appropriate for the main joyride stream.
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Re: CSound server questions

[Jim Gettys]

John,

We cannot use code from Barry since he tends to work by himself, his
code is unmaintainable except by him and its licensing has also been
somewhat questionable at times, though the licening problems may have
been addressed..  Were he to be run over by a truck (God forbid!), we'd
be in a complete pickle.

The community CSound, that Victor leads, is widely used and supported by
a large community of people.

Previous objections of "CSound bloat" (by things like the public csound
using the TK/TCL internally to the CSound library) have been addressed
by Victor, who now has (at configure time) a version of CSound5 built
out of the same source pool that drops those dependencies.

You can be sure that *anything* that runs on the CSound lite we run on
OLPC will run on the public full CSound used in the music community; it
is an *exact* subset of the full CSound used by everyone except Barry.

So we are also in a very much better compatibility situation than using
Barry's version.

Hope this explanation helps.
 - Jim


On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 06:42 -0400, John Maloney wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> I had the impression that Barry Vercoe was working on a new, light- 
> weight CsoundServer. Is that not true?
> 
>   -- John
> 
> On Aug 27, 2008, at 5:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > There is no CsoundServer anymore; we use Csound as a library
> > through its API. If anyone wants some help on how to use it, to
> > play MIDI or anything else, he/she can talk to me, privately or
> > on this list. I'm away to ICMC at the moment, so replies might
> > be slow. But I'll give as much help as I can.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Victor
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:35 pm
> > Subject: Re: CSound server questions
> > To: "C. Scott Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, devel@lists.laptop.org
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >> Did you ever get a satisfactory answer to your
> > > questions?  I think
> > >> Pippy contains the best examples of using csound
> > > to play sounds --
> > >> is that right, Chris?
> > >
> > > Well, I'd say that TamTam does.  :)  But yes, Pippy
> > > does some basic
> > > synthesis using sinewaves and music files with csound.
> > >
> > > - Chris.
> > > --
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Re: qemu: generating ext3 images including activities

[Erik Garrison]

I need to change the language to Spanish.  This is for use in an
educational video.

The ext3 images don't have .mo files for Sugar and other system utils.
So unless the livecd already has those, I'm going to continue with this
route.

Erik


On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:22:55AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
>   just a suggestion. Have you already tried to use the existing XO-LiveCD?
>  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveCD
>   You can run the ISO with qemu, you  can use VirtualBox 
>   (probably much faster), or just boot it on your hardware.
>   Maybe you save time, because many activities are already preinstalled
>   and it is very easy to add more (the Peru customization key activities).
> 
>   
> Wolfgang
> 
> >I am generating this image because the existing ones are out of date
> >with respect to the current Peru deployment's software, and they have
> >requested if it would be possible to create a new image.  It would be
> >sufficient to use an existing ext3 image [1] but I wanted to drop the
> >customization key activities which Peru has into the image.
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XO Faster build?

[BlistovMHz]

Faster has been unmaintained since Koji puked.  Is this coming back up, or
being deprecated in favor of Joyride?
Its been suggested that someone may have simply forgot to turn it back on :)
?

Ben Selinger
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Re: [Server-devel] Network address for activation - Fwd: [Techteam] Activating laptops from the school server

[John Watlington]

Martin, that shouldn't be needed.
Somewhere, network_config has gotten screwed up...

On Aug 28, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Martin Langhoff  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> we're trying to get the XS to reply to the activation requests from
>> the XO. The service is listening on 172.18.0.1:191 which is what the
>> non-activated laptops are trying.
>
> Sorted - and the activation responder works as expected.
>
> I've manually added ifcfg-br0:0 with 172.18.16.1 as its IP address.
> With this in place, down/up br0 and we are all go.
>
> Adding a bit in network_config that if server_number = 1 also writes
> ifcfg-br0:0 is left as an exercise for the reader :-)
>
> cheers,
>
>
>
> m
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am 28.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb Daniel Drake:
>
>> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
>>> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1
>>> 2008) and the level of translations that we have in Pootle, the
>>> variables get changed to
>>>
>>> en:es:ar:pl:pt_BR:pt:it:fr:ht:el:mn:mr_IN:th:am_ET:km_KH:ne_NP:ur_PK:rw:ja:de:tr:te:ps:fa_AF:si
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both PILGRIM_LOCALES_JFFS2 and PILGRIM_LOCALES_EXT3 need to be
>>> changed, since Qemu builds will also need to the translations.
>>
>> I updated the jffs2 setting in joyride with the above locales for the
>> time being. Didn't update ext3 as it looks like that one was
>> purposefully chosen to only include english?
>
> Yes, we want to revise that. Why should Qemu only support English?
>
> - Bert -

There's a bug report at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8183

Cheers,
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

[Bert Freudenberg]

Am 28.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb Daniel Drake:

> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
>> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1
>> 2008) and the level of translations that we have in Pootle, the
>> variables get changed to
>>
>> en:es:ar:pl:pt_BR:pt:it:fr:ht:el:mn:mr_IN:th:am_ET:km_KH:ne_NP:ur_PK:rw:ja:de:tr:te:ps:fa_AF:si
>>
>>
>>
>> Both PILGRIM_LOCALES_JFFS2 and PILGRIM_LOCALES_EXT3 need to be
>> changed, since Qemu builds will also need to the translations.
>
> I updated the jffs2 setting in joyride with the above locales for the
> time being. Didn't update ext3 as it looks like that one was
> purposefully chosen to only include english?

Yes, we want to revise that. Why should Qemu only support English?

- Bert -


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

[Daniel Drake]

On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1
> 2008) and the level of translations that we have in Pootle, the
> variables get changed to
> 
> en:es:ar:pl:pt_BR:pt:it:fr:ht:el:mn:mr_IN:th:am_ET:km_KH:ne_NP:ur_PK:rw:ja:de:tr:te:ps:fa_AF:si
> 
> 
> 
> Both PILGRIM_LOCALES_JFFS2 and PILGRIM_LOCALES_EXT3 need to be
> changed, since Qemu builds will also need to the translations.

I updated the jffs2 setting in joyride with the above locales for the
time being. Didn't update ext3 as it looks like that one was
purposefully chosen to only include english?

Daniel


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[PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

Hello everyone,
Currently our pilgrim installation filters out translations from RPMs
that it installs. I'm not sure what is the logic behind this action,
but it seems that this is an effort to conserve space. However, since
activities are not yet managed via Pilgrim, only the sugar (base
libraries: ie sugar, sugar-toolkit and sugar-base) translations get
filtered out, which probably saves around half a megabyte.

I would suggest that

a) This filtering system gets dropped entirely


OR

b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1
2008) and the level of translations that we have in Pootle, the
variables get changed to

en:es:ar:pl:pt_BR:pt:it:fr:ht:el:mn:mr_IN:th:am_ET:km_KH:ne_NP:ur_PK:rw:ja:de:tr:te:ps:fa_AF:si



Both PILGRIM_LOCALES_JFFS2 and PILGRIM_LOCALES_EXT3 need to be
changed, since Qemu builds will also need to the translations.

Thanks,
Sayamindu


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Re: qemu: generating ext3 images including activities

[WolfgangRohrmoser]

Hi Eric,

  just a suggestion. Have you already tried to use the existing XO-LiveCD?
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveCD
  You can run the ISO with qemu, you  can use VirtualBox 
  (probably much faster), or just boot it on your hardware.
  Maybe you save time, because many activities are already preinstalled
  and it is very easy to add more (the Peru customization key activities).

  
Wolfgang

>I am generating this image because the existing ones are out of date
>with respect to the current Peru deployment's software, and they have
>requested if it would be possible to create a new image.  It would be
>sufficient to use an existing ext3 image [1] but I wanted to drop the
>customization key activities which Peru has into the image.
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Re: OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

[S Page]

Mitch Bradley wrote:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14
> 
> It's the latest and greatest test candidate for 8.2.0, with numerous 
> fixes and a few features.

I believe the new "friends in testing" build 8.2-757 incorporates q2e14.

My XO seems fine.

I added the following to 
:
   If the new build includes new [[firmware]],
   then your XO will reboot twice.

If that's correct, the same line could be added to the 42 other 
instructions for upgrading on the wiki.

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